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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:39pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
When you're done planning - and your city doesn't rank bottom - kindly let us know. Again renders of planned smart cities do not mythical transform into reality.

FOCUS ON ELECTRICITY.


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The son of ambode is sick
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:40pm On Feb 08, 2019
vaxx:
Not even Ghana.
let alone Senegal grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:41pm On Feb 08, 2019
Jonraid:
Kigali is overrated.People talk of Rwanda as if it's Mauritius!

Kigali ilikufanyia nn grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by stanliwise(m): 1:42pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
Nairobi has all that - and more. Nairobi power management is at 99%. Kenya has database of all it's citizen. Nearly all gov services are online. IBM research just helped Nairobi make huge improvement in "ease of doing" business to around top 60. Nairobi has telemedicine and so much more latest innovation linked to mobile money and commerce. Nairobi has the ubers and smart taxis - smart motorbike - and now it's becoming smart dafnos now.

Nairobi have smart cameras - Huwaei won SMART CITY award for installing 150M dollars worth of smart cameras in Nairobi - these have face recognition, number plate recognition and all the shebans.

I can go on and on - but people who know their stuff - already ranks Nairobi and Capetown - African smartest cities.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:43pm On Feb 08, 2019
stanliwise:

Hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahshahhahahahaha

I can't stop laughing.... hahah see your poor definition of smart city hahahahhahahaha.
so this is what you have in mind when we are talking about smart city.

Answer this:
1. Does Nairobi have a detailed database of it citizen?
2. Are there tele-medicine and remote healthcare for majority of Nairobi citizens?
4. Does Nairobi or capetown have smart urban lightning
5. How intelligent is Nairobi transport system and traffic management, smart buses. cars etc
6. Does citizens now rely on technology for driving, touring, payment of tax.
7. Does capetown and Nairobi have sound management systems.
8. Can you rate Nairobi and capetown power management 80%

This is just a few of the list as if you notice Nairobi and Cape town has little bit of everything but they are at the infant stage. Stop trying to be a fanatic.
Nairobi and Cape town are at the most progressive stages of what a smart city is

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by stanliwise(m): 1:44pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
Nairobi has all that - and more. Nairobi power management is at 99%. Kenya has database of all it's citizen.All cars details are available as USSD or mobile app. Nearly all gov services are online. IBM research just helped Nairobi make huge improvement in "ease of doing" business to around top 60. Nairobi has telemedicine and so much more latest innovation linked to mobile money and commerce. Nairobi has the ubers and smart taxis - smart motorbike - and now it's becoming smart dafnos now.

Nairobi have smart cameras - Huwaei won SMART CITY award for installing 150M dollars worth of smart cameras in Nairobi - these have face recognition, number plate recognition and all the shebans.

Right now I think in most of Nairobi - power companies can do "live" maintenance and brown outs are now disappearing - because we have built redundancy lines.

I can go on and on - but people who know their stuff - already ranks Nairobi and Capetown - African smartest cities.

I have never argued against this fact. All I said is that this two city are yet to be smart cities. They aren't yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:45pm On Feb 08, 2019
vaxx:
what is the essence of building smart city without building smart people ?
.how can you build a smart city without electricity in the first place
Will it be powered by generators ??

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jakandeola(m): 1:45pm On Feb 08, 2019
IronGalaxy:
Bingo! I suspect all along that Nigeria can't posssibly be better than us in boxing grin grin
you South animals pls keep ur mouth of of our mata. wat is it ur in a naija blog yet u keep abusing us dey hate us yet cant stop talking about us may god purnish u animals d only thing u good at is HIV aids.cant u animals created ur own blog?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by stanliwise(m): 1:47pm On Feb 08, 2019
Just30:
Nairobi and Cape town are at the most progressive stages of what a smart city is
Yes they are but until they get there.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:47pm On Feb 08, 2019
For your everything is discrete. It's either you're are smart city or not. What kind of nonsense is that. Every city is smart or dumb - it's the degree - Nairobi is probably 30% smart - where Lagos is 3% smart. Some cities like San Francisco with self-driven cars are maybe 95%.

In Africa - Capetown and Nairobi - are on the pole position -

stanliwise:
I have never argued against this fact. All I said is that this two city are yet to be smart cities. They aren't yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:47pm On Feb 08, 2019
tylann:
.how can you build a smart city without electricity in the first place
Will it be powered by generators ??
grin grin grin grin

hehehe

the people dont even have pipes running through their homes
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:48pm On Feb 08, 2019
Just30:
you are mean grin grin grin

I always say the truth grin
When they get emotional they ban tylann for no reason.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:48pm On Feb 08, 2019
jakandeola:
you South animals pls keep ur mouth of of our mata. wat is it ur in a naija blog yet u keep abusing us dey hate us yet cant stop talking about us may god purnish u animals d only thing u good at is HIV aids.cant u animals created ur own blog?
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
this one has lost his shit

go and vote for better leaders
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:49pm On Feb 08, 2019
How can you build a skyscrapper without electricity - the lift won't work most of the time - smiley Nigeria should fix the basics first - electricity -water - sewage - and then come talk about smart little islands for the super-rich.
Just30:
grin grin grin grin

hehehe

the people dont even have pipes running through their homes

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:50pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
For your everything is discrete. It's either you're are smart city or not. What kind of nonsense is that. Every city is smart or dumb - it's the degree - Nairobi is probably 30% smart - where Lagos is 3% smart. Some cities like San Francisco with self-driven cars are maybe 95%.

In Africa - Capetown and Nairobi - are on the pole position -

how can Lagos be 3% smart when it cant even manage it grid
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by stanliwise(m): 1:51pm On Feb 08, 2019
Jonraid:
They may not be totally perfect smart cities but Nairobi and Capetown do rank above most in Africa and the world.For instance in 2015,Nairobi was position 21 worldwide-that tells you something!
I doubt this your figure.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:52pm On Feb 08, 2019
Just30:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
this one has lost his shit

go and vote for better leaders

Which better leaders buhari and atiku are both ......you know .... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:52pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
How can you build a skyscrapper without electricity - the lift won't work most of the time - smiley Nigeria should fix the basics first - electricity -water - sewage - and then come talk about smart little islands for the super-rich.
i woder what they were thinking when they decided it was smart to build EAC for 250,000 people and compare it with the rest of Africa


Just look at Cassablanca
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:53pm On Feb 08, 2019
I think we can grant the 2 empty towers of Eko City and Victoria Island some smart brownies points - for running their generators, keeping their own shiets in cesspools and supplying their own water by drilling boreholes.
Just30:
how can Lagos be 3% smart when it cant even manage it grid

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:54pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
How can you build a skyscrapper without electricity - the lift won't work most of the time - smiley Nigeria should fix the basics first - electricity -water - sewage - and then come talk about smart little islands for the super-rich.

They can't provide the basics
And they dreaming of smart cities

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jakandeola(m): 1:54pm On Feb 08, 2019
Just30:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
this one has lost his shit

go and vote for better leaders
guy didnt u see how dey always attack us with bad word and yet we own dis blog!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 1:55pm On Feb 08, 2019
samsobo24:





INTRODUCTION

Nature has always bestowed humanity worth unlimited opportunities to shape his surroundings and the world generally.From the oceans to the mountains and from the canyons to the reeds,mankind has faced and surmounted nature's challenging obstacles.All over the world,picturesque cities have been built on mountains and railway tunnels have been constructed underwater to link destinations.where some mere mortals see obstacles,men of courage and vision see opportunities and flexibility.Such is the story of Eko Atlantic City.

Quick recap: Since 2013, there have been an aggressive land reclamation project along the Bar Beach coastline called Eko Atlantic City which is now at the final stage. At completion,Eko Atlantic City will be sitting on about 10kms(4 square miles) of land.This is an area located just adjacent to Victoria Island by the Lagos Bar Beach.It will be comparable to the Manhattan District of New York as the developers disclosed.The area will be approximately the size of the district which boasts some of the world's tallest sky-scrappers.Eko Atlantic City will even be larger than a handful of beautiful Island countries.

The fairy tale have so far been turning into reality:













Furthermore, Eko Atlantic City will be home to 250,000 people of differnt nationalties and ethnicity. Developers said it will be world-class housing projects and residential towers.It is also expected that 150,000 will commute to the city daily for business.This is approximately half the population of a couple of states in the USA and more than the population of several island counties in the world. To put into perspective,it will be greater than the population of countries like Cape Verse,Bahamas,Brunei,Iceland,Malta,Belize.


The contract for the construction of Eko Atlantic City was awarded to South EnergyX,a subsidiary of the Chagoury Group in 2006.This was after Hi-Tech Construction Ltd,also a subsidiary of Chagoury Group,completed the km Shoreline protection of the Lagos Bar-Beach.

It will connect to an independent source of electricity and not the national power grid.stable power supply is a magnet for investment opportunities.

In a couple of years from now,Africa's Dubai will be sitting on the Atlantic Ocean.such will be a triumph for Marin Engineering.It happened in Dubai,and in Singapore,this time its happening in Nigeria.


Eko Atlantic will be a city to live and work in. With its tree-lined boulevards, waterways, manicured gardens, elegant plazas, three marinas and a stunning ocean front promenade, the new city will be a complete contrast to the congested, traffic-filled streets of Lagos.

Some credits goes to HezronLorraine
Most of the images can be found here http://www.ekoatlantic.com/media/image-gallery


I know. Ghanians are always better than Nigeria by mere mouth.

I begin to give up on you and your brother when you said Ghana has a smart city.
I'm not amazed,Ghana isn't worth the argument but its just for the sake of it.

A smart city uses modern technology to solve every of its problem
Traffic
Transportation
A smart city attracts business,technology, tourism
A smart city respects the Environment by laying down a reasonable % of its lavnd mass for Greeneries

A smart uses modern security infrastructure to handle security problems
A smart city has a central sewage system
It uses clean and renewable energy for Powering up its city
It has a single central water system
It has world class modern transport systems like Tram,light rail,cable car,efficient bus systems,Water transport systems.

it uses fibre optic cable to convey information

Note: A smart city majors on technology throughout its city

Etc
I have schooled you for free since you compare your Ghanian village with EAC.

EAC already has a functioning water system,completed its energy estate and other basic infrastructures etc

I wont be surprised if you still rant that Accra is better than PH,its what you're known for

Read and don't be left in the stone age






INTRODUCTION

Nature has always bestowed humanity worth unlimited opportunities to shape his surroundings and the world generally.From the oceans to the mountains and from the canyons to the reeds,mankind has faced and surmounted nature's challenging obstacles.All over the world,picturesque cities have been built on mountains and railway tunnels have been constructed underwater to link destinations.where some mere mortals see obstacles,men of courage and vision see opportunities and flexibility.Such is the story of Eko Atlantic City.

Quick recap: Since 2013, there have been an aggressive land reclamation project along the Bar Beach coastline called Eko Atlantic City which is now at the final stage. At completion,Eko Atlantic City will be sitting on about 10kms(4 square miles) of land.This is an area located just adjacent to Victoria Island by the Lagos Bar Beach.It will be comparable to the Manhattan District of New York as the developers disclosed.The area will be approximately the size of the district which boasts some of the world's tallest sky-scrappers.Eko Atlantic City will even be larger than a handful of beautiful Island countries.

The fairy tale have so far been turning into reality:













Furthermore, Eko Atlantic City will be home to 250,000 people of differnt nationalties and ethnicity. Developers said it will be world-class housing projects and residential towers.It is also expected that 150,000 will commute to the city daily for business.This is approximately half the population of a couple of states in the USA and more than the population of several island counties in the world. To put into perspective,it will be greater than the population of countries like Cape Verse,Bahamas,Brunei,Iceland,Malta,Belize.


The contract for the construction of Eko Atlantic City was awarded to South EnergyX,a subsidiary of the Chagoury Group in 2006.This was after Hi-Tech Construction Ltd,also a subsidiary of Chagoury Group,completed the km Shoreline protection of the Lagos Bar-Beach.

It will connect to an independent source of electricity and not the national power grid.stable power supply is a magnet for investment opportunities.

In a couple of years from now,Africa's Dubai will be sitting on the Atlantic Ocean.such will be a triumph for Marin Engineering.It happened in Dubai,and in Singapore,this time its happening in Nigeria.


Eko Atlantic will be a city to live and work in. With its tree-lined boulevards, waterways, manicured gardens, elegant plazas, three marinas and a stunning ocean front promenade, the new city will be a complete contrast to the congested, traffic-filled streets of Lagos.

Some credits goes to HezronLorraine
Most of the images can be found here http://www.ekoatlantic.com/media/image-gallery

Post us real cities. We are tired of these renders.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by stanliwise(m): 1:57pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
For your everything is discrete. It's either you're are smart city or not. What kind of nonsense is that. Every city is smart or dumb - it's the degree - Nairobi is probably 30% smart - where Lagos is 3% smart. Some cities like San Francisco with self-driven cars are maybe 95%.

In Africa - Capetown and Nairobi - are on the pole position -

You just love argument. Compare cape town to cities like kigali and you will know what I am talking about. Mind you some people consider kigali not to be smart.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:58pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
I think we can grant the 2 empty towers of Eko City and Victoria Island some smart brownies points - for running their generators, keeping their own shiets in cesspools and supplying their own water by drilling boreholes.
Do yo know what happens when everyone drills boreholes grin grin grin grin grin

the water table goes down and down
that cant be a smart way of living.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 1:59pm On Feb 08, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Post us real cities. We are tired of these renders.
There is nothing in Nigeria that looks like the picture the dude posted. They are simply what the architects expect the smart city to look like when completed.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:59pm On Feb 08, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Post us real cities. We are tired of these renders.

Which cities ? Does Nigeria have cities !

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:00pm On Feb 08, 2019
I know Kigali in and out. Kigali is not smart. It's a clean city. You know what makes a city smart - stuff like paying for everything with your phone like in Nairobi - I mean nearly everything - by nearly everyone. That earns Nairobi huge smarts points.
stanliwise:
You just love argument. Compare cape town to cities like kigali and you will know what I am talking about. Mind you some people consider kigali not to be smart.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:00pm On Feb 08, 2019
That's why investing heavily in education and tech is important!
vaxx:
what is the essence of building smart city without building smart people ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:00pm On Feb 08, 2019
jakandeola:
guy didnt u see how dey always attack us with bad word and yet we own dis blog!
i saw that
but
you brought us here when you started attacking everyone
only for us to come and point out how poo your country is.


you realise it as soon as you step out of Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:03pm On Feb 08, 2019
It already happening in Nairobi - that is why we really need to fix water crisis & traffic - kenya for most parts is water deficient - and we haven't invested in dams the size of your lake volta. Its very shameful. Its not as bad as Nigeria - but there is no reason for DRY TAPS in any city in Africa. Water is free for most parts - just damming some river and supplying it.

But like Nigeria when everyone get used a bad situation - it become a new normal.

Most Nigerians are so used to generator noise and smoke - they think everywhere is like there. I don't there is any decent country as bad as them.

Just30:
Do yo know what happens when everyone drills boreholes grin grin grin grin grin

the water table goes down and down
that cant be a smart way of living.


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 2:04pm On Feb 08, 2019
Jonraid:
That's why investing heavily in education and tech is important!
Do you know mobile money is not efficient in Nigeria while you can used mobile money to nearly do everything in Ghana. yet i wonder which of them is building smart city.

smart city indeed.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by stanliwise(m): 2:05pm On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
I know Kigali in and out. Kigali is not smart. It's a clean city. You know what makes a city smart - stuff like have paying for everything with your phone like in Nairobi - I mean nearly everything - by nearly everyone. That earns Nairobi huge smarts points.
yes you're right. Nairobi is going there and no sane person would argue against that. so as cape town. I pray for Africa to develop in all aspect. So as my country Nigeria. But I just mean we are overrating things which are yet to be.

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