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Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by stanech: 12:32am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Margaret Thatcher once said that "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by stanech: 12:35am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Trump. “We will never be 'socialist,' ” 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 12:38am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39:Then it can not be socialism. In socialism, the community that owns the means of production are in charge and oversee it themselves. Do not sleep on your watch please! Martinez39:In the society described above the community that owns the means of production (if they do own it), is not in charge and does not oversee the means of production! Socialism does not delegate its communal responsibility, everyone plays their part. A society where the above is done is not a socialist society. 1 Like |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 12:40am On Feb 11, 2019 |
stanech: "A socialist is one who had read Lenin and Marx. An anti-socialist is someone who understands Lenin and Marx." - Ronald Reagan 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by stanech: 12:40am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Socialism is bad
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Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 12:42am On Feb 11, 2019 |
budaatum:Lol. Okay o. ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by stanech: 12:43am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39: It creates equally poor and miserable people. Socialism is not cool. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 12:58am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39:I know I left you speechless. I got jigi yesterday and its just power! A state that compels people to work for the good of the state in the hope that what ever comes out of it will be distributed equally is a Slave State. And the people in it are called Slavians, because they practice slavery. No state, in a socialist society, compels anybody in that society to work for the good of the state! Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole because we are they best stewards of what's ours. We own it, We run it! Socialist are not slaves! 1 Like |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 1:44am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39:Really? Socialists don't like capital? You know something? I'm finding that everytime someone tells me to read what they wrote and which I quoted, they themselves are the nonreader! How can you say socialists don't like money? Socialism is a political and economic (capital, ego, money, dollars) theory of social organization which advocates that the means (money, power, us) of production, distribution, and exchange (money, capital, ego, naira, dollar) should be owned or regulated by the community (we, us, ourselves) as a whole (all of us) because we are the best stewards of what's ours. Please! Pay tithes! 1 Like |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 2:12am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39:No, Martinez39, we will not take your gold and share your earrings amongst us! We shall use Redistributive Taxes to spread incomes more fairly among people by taxing rich people more and poor people less. Or don't you want to contribute more to make the community better? Optional ‘mansion tax’ in Westminster raises £400,000 fund for the homeless 24hoursreporter: Socialist rebellion in the most capitalist city! Each according to their ability to contribute. But if you are unable to contribute you will not starve to death or sleep on the street because we are socialists! |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 2:19am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39:Why does this sound like Amazon and Facebook? Capitalist type companies with boards of directors and shares and dividends? |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by SouthEastFacts: 8:30am On Feb 11, 2019 |
abduljabbar4:There are MB, SW, SE and SS are bloody capitalists. There are many capitalists in NW/NE also. |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by AnyoneButAtiku: 9:02am On Feb 11, 2019 |
@OP who lines up a long list of ills associated with socialism, also readily admits that the examples he provided are hardly 100% socialist. To be clear, without meaning to do so, he inadvertently reinforces the view advanced by the socialist party of Britain; which holds that there are no socialist countries in the world at present. There are none in Europe, which is suffering from a great capitalist crisis. In Latin America, Venezuela is not socialist, despite nationalising some enterprises. See articles on Venezuela here. Moving swiftly on, would the same clown be prepared to accept that some of the most stable economies in the world today - Denmark, Norway and Sweden - also have strong socialist systems? Why is that so? Would he acknowledge the benefits that accrue from the provisions made by the state in the areas of education, health care, pensions, and so on, in those countries? |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 9:20am On Feb 11, 2019 |
AnyoneButAtiku:Not hold the same opinion with you doesn't make me a clown. When I mentioned the so called socialist programmes, I only mentioned America. Those programmes aren't even socialist in the strict sense. No matter how people want to put it, Venezuela is a socialist country and that is the cause of their suffering. Full blown socialism. A lot of people ignorantly mention most of the countries you stated to support socialism. They are capitalist economies. Here is a quote from the prime minister of Denmark. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by AnyoneButAtiku: 9:38am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39: When you make a statement which argues that socialism normalises envy, without offering further qualification or context, that amounts to clowning around to me. But in order to not to lower the tempo of this discussion needlessly, I would withdraw that remark and also tender an apology. When you offer a quote from a centre-right PM in Denmark to invalidate my point about having "strong socialist systems", are you just trying to be as opaque as possible? I am asking because what I wrote is nothing short of a view that is commonly held by most political observers - regardless of where they stand on the political divide. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:25am On Feb 11, 2019 |
Martinez39: The Nordic model refers to the economic and social policies common to the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, the Faroe Islands, and Sweden). This includes a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level with a high percentage of the workforce unionized while being based on the economic foundations of free market capitalism. The Nordic model began to earn attention after World War II. If the above were introduced in America would you not call it "full blown socialism" and communist, even? |
Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:28am On Feb 11, 2019 |
AnyoneButAtiku:I think op is American. He might not get the "centre-right PM". |
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