Lana1:
Funny enough, na only De Gea and Pogba most United fans dey ever tag "best in the world" or "world class". We constantly complain about the averageness of Lingard and Herrera, how inconsistent Martial is and our mediocre defence.

They said our players were average and riding on luck when we were beating the Tottenham's and Arsenal's of this world.
Now dem dey call those same players world class just to make themselves feel good about our L to PSG.

The discussion for at least make sense if these dudes could stay consistent in their assessments

I am just having fun here. Their analysis dey make me laugh

raumdeuter:


You mean its possible to be a world class player in Europe and you will not be able to recognize him?

Dagba has played a total of 340mins for PSG this season and you are asking if he is world class

I'm asking why Martial and Lukaku are world class and those ones at PSG are not. We have Marquinhos, Kimbempe, Draxler, Buffon, ALves, Silva etc

eph12:

Kimbempe made the France squad to the world cup, Martial couldn't.

So transfer fees, first team starters, national team appearance are what determines your world class players? Something is telling me you belong to aparisports club but I don't want to believe

This is the problem with some folks on this section. Most are conformist who have no mind of their own, they need allies to help them push their cause. So just because I share a similar view as Dayo on this matter, it means I am aligned to all his thoughts?

I have been in battles with Dayo and will continue, educate yourself by reading through my comments. Even Dayo will tell you that.

Kimbempe made the French squad to the World cup and played how many matches? For the records, Kimbempe has only 7 international caps in comparison to Martial's 18. Furthermore, Martial did not make the squad because his form was horrible after Sanchez arrived United and bear in mind he copped an injury before that.

eph12:

I'm asking why Martial and Lukaku are world class and those ones at PSG are not. We have Marquinhos, Kimbempe, Draxler, Buffon, ALves, Silva etc

Buffon Alvez and Silva are past their prime and cannot be world class

Its like asking if Yaya Toure, Schweinsteiger or Kompany is world class today

Draxler is a mediocre player just a little better than Lingaard, Marquinho and Kimpembe are young upcoming defenders just like Lindelof and Shaw or can we say Shaw and Lindelof are world class too

Roland17:


This is the problem with some folks on this section. Most are conformist who have no mind of their own, they need allies to help them push their cause. So just because I share a similar view as Dayo on this matter, it means I am aligned to all his thoughts?

I have been in battles with Dayo and will continue, educate yourself by reading through my comments. Even Dayo will tell you that.

Kimbempe made the French squad to the World cup and played how many matches? For the records, Kimbempe has only 7 international caps in comparison to Martial's 18. Furthermore, Martial did not make the squad because his form was horrible after Sanchez arrived United and bear in mind he copped an injury before that.

Thats the way some people reason

if Dayo says Messi plays for Barcelona, Some will try to prove no he plays for Burnley just to oppose anything I say

Roland17:


How many national team caps do Lukaku and Martial have in comparison to Dagba and Kimpembe?

Lmao. See wuruwuru logic. Are u related to hensbrain or okadaman? So It's by national team caps now? Some 2 seasons ago when Kante barely had 10 caps for France, una dey call am world class but Pogba was labeled DabLord.

How many international competitions have Lukaku and Martial played in when compared to Dagba and Kimpembe?

Refer to my post above concerning Pogba and Kante.

How many UCL/European club competition experience do Lukaku and Martial have in comparison to Dagba and Kimpembe?[quote]Really? How many apps in Europe(both Europa and UCL) does Lukaku even have?? But make i no digress. Lewandowski with more than 5 seasons of UCl is world class and better than Mbappe.

[quote]What are the transfer fees/ salaries for Lukaku and Martial in comparison to Dagba and Kimpembe?

It was only a matter of time before this criteria popped up again.
Martial earn more than Hazard but una no go ever gree when we joke that he is better than Hazard. Ozil currently earns more than KDB. Maybe he's also better as well.
As for Transfer fees, Ousmane Dembele and Coutinho but cost more than Salah but i'll leave you to your wayo logic to decipher who is better.

Are Kimpembe and Dagba first team starters in a healthy PSG side in comparison to Lukaku and Martial?

Lukaku is a starter for United? Sanchez?? Mata??

Are Kimpembe and Dagba starters for their respective national team sides, in comparison to Lukaku and Martial?

Did Martial even go to the World Cup? Except Lukaku, none of our subs that came on are even regulars for their countries anymore.

I can go on and on bro.

U can go as long as you like. Wont change the fact that ur post oozes hypocrisy and double standards.

raumdeuter:


Buffon Alvez and Silva are past their prime and cannot be world class

Its like asking if Yaya Toure, Schweinsteiger or Kompany is world class today

Draxler is a mediocre player just a little better than Lingaard, Marquinho and Kimpembe are young upcoming defenders just like Lindelof and Shaw or can we say Shaw and Lindelof are world class too

And Martial is not upcoming but already world class abi? Go on

Lukaku that until two years was playing for Everton, has not won anything neither has he delivered in any final is world class? Kontinu

Roland17:


This is the problem with some folks on this section. Most are conformist who have no mind of their own, they need allies to help them push their cause. So just because I share a similar view as Dayo on this matter, it means I am aligned to all his thoughts?

I have been in battles with Dayo and will continue, educate yourself by reading through my comments. Even Dayo will tell you that.

Kimbempe made the French squad to the World cup and played how many matches? For the records, Kimbempe has only 7 international caps in comparison to Martial's 18. Furthermore, Martial did not make the squad because his form was horrible after Sanchez arrived United and bear in mind he copped an injury before that.

You were trying to troll and I answered in kind. How can you say one becomes world class because of his national team appearance or playing in a first team? In which world is that?

eph12:
And Martial is not upcoming but already world class abi? Go on

Lukaku that until two years was playing for Everton, has not won anything neither has he delivered in any final is world class? Kontinu

Lukaku was 2nd top scorer in the EPL, Unless you are telling us that goals in the EPL dont matter because its farmers league

All United players are suddenly world class beacuse of some 10 games in 2 months under a caretaker manager. I can remember how Roland17 used to vehemently yab Pogba

eph12:

You were trying to troll and I answered in kind. How can you say one becomes world class because of his national team appearance or playing in a first team? In which world is that?

How can one become world class by not playing in National team or by being a benchwarmer for club like Kimpembe and Dagba? In what world is that

raumdeuter:


Lukaku was 2nd top scorer in the EPL, Unless you are telling us that goals in the EPL dont matter because its farmers league

You that were not convinced about Kane when he delivered for Tottenham is now saying Lukaku is world class for being 2nd top scorer?

eph12:

You were trying to troll and I answered in kind. How can you say one becomes world class because of his national team appearance or playing in a first team? In which world is that?

Very soon we will read that players can be world class or not based on the color of their jersey.

Lana1:
Lmao. See wuruwuru logic. Are u related to hensbrain or okadaman? So It's by national team caps now? Some 2 seasons ago when Kante barely had 10 caps for France, una dey call am world class but Pogba was labeled DabLord.

Refer to my post above concerning Pogba and Kante.

You guys are just all over the place. We are comparing the "World Class" status of Lukaku/ Martial in comparison to Kimpembe and Dagba. Stop spilling the conversation to other players. Stick to Lukaku/Martial and Kimpembe/ Dagba.

Kante, Pogba, Hazard et al are not the topic of discussion here. Kante was renowned after his exploits with Leceister, he was a late bloomer and have since gone on to win more appearances with France and ultimately the World cup. Pogba is

I have provided my own criteria, please provide your own criteria. Please show me how Lukaku and Martial are not World class players.

I am waiting.

raumdeuter:


How can one become world class by not playing in National team or by being a benchwarmer for club like Kimpembe and Dagba? In what world is that

Now you see that none of them are world class. I wouldn't have mentioned those names, only did it to show you the sense nonsense in the nonsense

Lana1:
Very soon we will read that players can be world class or not based on the color of their jersey.

Be patient, they are getting there

eph12:

You that were not convinced about Kane when he delivered for Tottenham is now saying Lukaku is world class for being 2nd top scorer?

Lukaku at 25yrs has over 100 EPL goals. How many goals did Kane have then I commented about him not world class

Lana1:
All United players are suddenly world class beacuse of some 10 games in 2 months under a caretaker manager. I can remember how Roland17 used to vehemently yab Pogba

Yabbed him because his form was erratic, it did not dispute his ranking or his notoriety in the game of football. The World knows Pogba, his exploits with Juventus. He won trophies with Juve and his national team. So yabbing him when his form is erratic does not mean he is not a good player.

eph12:

Now you see that none of them are world class. I wouldn't have mentioned those names, only did it to show you the sense nonsense in the nonsense

So what is your criteria for world class and how many PSG players that played on the night(starters and subs) fit it

Remember we are going to use the same criteria for Man utd players

raumdeuter:


Lukaku at 25yrs has over 100 EPL goals. How many goals did Kane have then I commented about him not world class

Don't allow them to tempt you into digressing from the onus of this argument. It is a subtle attempt to distract the focus.

Lukaku/ Martial vs Kimpembe/ Dagba

Lana1:
All United players are suddenly world class beacuse of some 10 games in 2 months under a caretaker manager. I can remember how Roland17 used to vehemently yab Pogba

Nihileest and some people vehemently yab Messi, Can we say Messi is not world class

Roland17:


Don't allow them to tempt you into digressing from the onus of this argument. It is a subtle attempt to distract the focus.

Lukaku/ Martial vs Kimpembe/ Dagba

eph12 So back to the matter

How is Lukaku/Martial vs Kimpembe/Dagba

eph12:

How is Lukaku and Martial world class, and Dagba and Kimbempe are not world class

raumdeuter:


So what is your criteria for world class and how many PSG players that played on the night(starters and subs) fit it

Remember we are going to use the same criteria for Man utd players

Played at the top consistently for years

United
DeGea, Pogba, Matic

PSG
Neymar, Cavani, Mbappe, Di Maria, Verrati, Buffon, Alves, Silva

raumdeuter:


Nihileest and some people vehemently yab Messi, Can we say Messi is not world class

My exact thoughts. Folks yab great players, it does not mean we question their qualities or greatness.

eph12:

Played at the top consistently for years

Okay good

So should we count the years

Martial/Lukaku have played consistently at the top and compare it to Kimpembe/Dagba?

raumdeuter:


eph.12 So back to the matter

How is Lukaku/Martial vs Kimpembe/Dagba

That isn't even the crux of the matter but I will oblige you

You mentioned Lukaku and Martial as world class and your reasons were not only far from your usual reasons for judging players, but laughable

eph12:

Played at the top consistently for years

United
DeGea, Pogba, Matic

PSG
Neymar, Cavani, Mbappe, Di Maria, Verrati, Buffon, Alves, Silva

Did you see Neymar Cavani on the field yesterday?

If you are including Buffon Alves and Silva can we also include Schweinsteiger or Yaya Toure or Cech who is younger than some of them

raumdeuter:


Okay good

So should we count the years

Martial/Lukaku have played consistently at the top and compare it to Kimpembe/Dagba?

Martial and Lukaku have played consistently at the top? LMAO

eph12:

That isn't even the crux of the matter but I will oblige you

You mentioned Lukaku and Martial as world class and your reasons were not only far from your usual reasons for judging players, but laughable

So using your own metrics rate Martial, Lukaku, Kimpembe Dagba

10 is best player ever seen, 1 is worst player ever seen

eph12:

Martial and Lukaku have played consistently at the top? LMAO

Lukaku 25yrs over 100 EPL goals

raumdeuter:


Did you see Neymar Cavani on the field yesterday?

If you are including Buffon Alves and Silva can we also include Schweinsteiger or Yaya Toure or Cech who is younger than some of them

Did you see Schiwie, Toure or Cech on the field that day?

eph12:

Did you see Schiwie, Toure or Cech on the field that day?

Schweini Toure and Cech are similar to Alves Buffon and Silva former world class players who are pas their prime