raumdeuter:


Lukaku 25yrs over 100 EPL goals

Your top does not include dragging to finals or beasting finals anymore?

eph12:

That isn't even the crux of the matter but I will oblige you

You mentioned Lukaku and Martial as world class and your reasons were not only far from your usual reasons for judging players, but laughable

What is the crux of the matter then? Please stick the comparison of Kimpembe/ Dagba vs Lukaku/ Martial

kokaneprodigy:
so u are saying Guen is so good that it’s okay to sacrifice Xhaka, Ramsey and Ozil just to accommodate him in starting line up.

I strongly disagree!

Bros..... see how you just put words into my mouth. I agreed with the veira comparison (that Guen has the potential (I think) to be another veira). I never said he was good enough for the first team. I've been one of the few people supporting sod on the matter.

raumdeuter:


Schweini Toure and Cech are similar to Alves Buffon and Silva former world class players who are pas their prime

Not all players get past their prime at the same age. Like Boateng is just 30 and is already long past his prime, these ones are still going strong. I don't blame Boateng though, players don't have same expiry date

eph12

So using your own metrics rate Martial, Lukaku, Kimpembe Dagba

10 is best player ever seen, 1 is worst player ever seen

Roland17:


What is the crux of the matter then? Please stick the comparison of Kimpembe/ Dagba vs Lukaku/ Martial

Which of those players are world class there?

eph12:

Not all players get past their prime at the same age. Like Boateng is just 30 and is already long past his prime, these ones are still going strong. I don't blame Boateng though, players don't have same expiry date

So using your own metrics rate Martial, Lukaku, Kimpembe Dagba

10 is best player ever seen, 1 is worst player ever seen

eph12:

List the world class players that played for PSG and United
For me
PSG - Silva, Alves, Verrati, Di Maria, Mbappe
United - Pogba, Matic

Sanchez has not played anything close to world class in over a year now and he is in his 30s so does not feature



So nobody is allowed to rape each other?

raumdeuter:
ep.h12

So using your own metrics rate Martial, Lukaku, Kimpembe Dagba

10 is best player ever seen, 1 is worst player ever seen

I don't watch the French league so how can I rate?

eph12:

I don't watch the French league so how can I rate?

You dont watch French league yet you can confidently say the PSG players are world class.

How were you able to rate them? Is it by the number of alphabets in their names

eph12:

Which of those players are world class there?

In comparison to Kimpembe/ Dagba, I say Lukaku/ Martial based on the criteria I provided earlier for their individual stat.

Please give your own answer to the question you asked and give your own reasons.

eph12:

I don't watch the French league so how can I rate?

This is where I give up!!!!! Why was I even wasting my time?

You don't watch the French league or follow the players closely yet you are busy making conclusions about the players from the league because you watch them in only one competition where they are considered fringe players.

raumdeuter:


Pogba, Alexis, Lukaku Matic Degea Martial

PSG - Mbappe DiMaria Cavani Neymar

In which world are those players world class? I hope you're talking about another Alexis (the porn star?), Not the Sanchez that is in United.

Roland17:


This is where I give up!!!!! Why was I even wasting my time?

You don't watch the French league or follow the players closely yet you are busy making conclusions about the players from the league because you watch them in only one competition.

Lmao abi which kain own goal be that

You dont watch them but you are telling those world class and those not

How was he able to determine?

eph12:

Played at the top consistently for years

United
DeGea, Pogba, Matic

PSG
Neymar, Cavani, Mbappe, Di Maria, Verrati, Buffon, Alves, Silva

mbappe has played consistently at the top for years? and matic? how come Mata or Sanchez didn't fit into this

raumdeuter:


Buffon Alvez and Silva are past their prime and cannot be world class

Its like asking if Yaya Toure, Schweinsteiger or Kompany is world class today

Draxler is a mediocre player just a little better than Lingaard, Marquinho and Kimpembe are young upcoming defenders just like Lindelof and Shaw or can we say Shaw and Lindelof are world class too

If this was 2-3 years ago, the bolded can be classified as an upcoming defender, but in 2019, Marquinhos is an already established! Maybe just a step from being a world class player.

A40:
De Gea best keeper in the world no be World class? Alves and Silva a combined age of 70 na him be world class? Orisirisi

Abi o. When person dey support beer parlor team

Roland17:


Yabbed him because his form was erratic, it did not dispute his ranking or his notoriety in the game of football. The World knows Pogba, his exploits with Juventus. He won trophies with Juve and his national team. So yabbing him when his form is erratic does not mean he is not a good player.

Oh my Chisus. See as men dey change mouth to avoid carrying Ls

"I didn't mean to yab him. He was always a good player. It's just because he used to dab too much." What wont we see on this forum.

I see it's because of his inconsistent forms u said this.

Roland17:




Pogba is not finishing as top scorer for United, neither would he lead the assist chart for United but we all know that he has continued to stat pad with his PK's. Abeg which season has Pogba dominated and led his team in a productive stat for the entire season, worth more 5 consecutive seasons?

Abeg carry your donkey, bakayoko 2.0 dey go

Roland17:
Pogba this! Pogba that!!...As if no be the same Dablord wen dey hop like donkey..

Roland17:


You guys are just all over the place. We are comparing the "World Class" status of Lukaku/ Martial in comparison to Kimpembe and Dagba. Stop spilling the conversation to other players. Stick to Lukaku/Martial and Kimpembe/ Dagba.

Kante, Pogba, Hazard et al are not the topic of discussion here. Kante was renowned after his exploits with Leceister, he was a late bloomer and have since gone on to win more appearances with France and ultimately the World cup. Pogba is

I have provided my own criteria, please provide your own criteria. Please show me how Lukaku and Martial are not World class players.

I am waiting.

I'm so happy u had nothing concrete to counter my post with except the usual "stop flip-flopping or turning amala".

Why should I stick to only Martial & Lukaku vs Dagba & Kimpembe when the general consensus of this argument on Tuesday was whether PSG had better players than us.
Especially when ur logic was faulty.

Lukaku wey ball dey dribble is now world class. The same lukaku u called Jambody

Roland17:
Alhaji Jam Body!!!!

Lukaku is world class but if dem say make we swap Lukaku and Lacazete now, una go talk no.
I love this game.

raumdeuter:


You dont watch French league yet you can confidently say the PSG players are world class.

How were you able to rate them? Is it by the number of alphabets in their names

My point has always been that none of those four are world class but you claimed they are world class

BikeMan:
mbappe has played consistently at the top for years? and matic? how come Mata or Sanchez didn't fit into this

Matic won the league twice as a starter. Can't say the same about Mata and Sanchez. What have they done? Your team even collapsed immediately Matic left, chopping 4-6 goals here and there

raumdeuter:


Nihileest and some people vehemently yab Messi, Can we say Messi is not world class

Nihilist did not compare Messi to Lingard nor call him a donkey.

MrDojo:



In which world are those players world class? I hope you're talking about another Alexis (the porn star?), Not the Sanchez that is in United.

Abi e ri nkan?

eph12:

My point has always been that none of those four are world class but you claimed they are world class

You listed some PSG as world class and some not

How did you know when you dont watch them

Lana1:
Nihilist did not compare Messi to Lingard nor call him a donkey.

He has called Messi a midget several times

Roland17:


This is where I give up!!!!! Why was I even wasting my time?

You don't watch the French league or follow the players closely yet you are busy making conclusions about the players from the league because you watch them in only one competition where they are considered fringe players.

LMAO let me break it down for you
If Martial and Lukaku that has not done anything for their clubs can be world class, why not those on the bench? Abi what's the difference between playing and doing nothing on the field and staying on the bench?

raumdeuter:


You listed some PSG as world class and some not

How did you know when you dont watch them

Champions league, National competitions, former clubs

eph12:

Champions league, National competitions, former clubs

For example Dagba has played 9mins of CL football, No National competition and dont know of his former club

So how are you able to compare him to Martial and Lukaku

raumdeuter:


He has called Messi a midget several times

Because of Messi's height which has very little to do with his football.

Nihilist also called him a tax fraud. What exactly is ur point again?

I like as boys dey change mouth. Lukaku, Martial, Pogba are now world class because they lost to PSG.

Come the weekend when they are back to beating the Fulhams and Arsenals of this world, they will no longer be world class.

Lana1:
Because of Messi's height which has very little to do with his football.

Nihilist also called him a tax fraud. What exactly is ur point again?

And what is calling Pogba names have to do with his football

Many players have been called names which has nothing to do with their abilities

Lana1:
Oh my Chisus. See as men dey change mouth to avoid carrying Ls

"I didn't mean to yab him. He was always a good player. It's just because he used to dab too much." What wont we see on this forum.

I see it's because of his inconsistent forms u said this.

You can not turn this amala to favor you. If you look at the snapshots you would see my comments and thoughts about Pogba from way back in 2013, 2015 and now, arguing against @Coogar and @Dayokanu.

Trolling Pogba when he is playing poorly does not mean I question his qualities. In the instance you were alluding to, we were talking about stat padding.