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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 11:07am On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:07am On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: Kenya has this...bla bla Kenya has that. bla bla Yet the election was annulled due to irregularities.. Don't talk about dirt when you haven't taken your bath! I know you were expecting to wake up with news of the election being postponed again but God pass you ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:15am On Feb 23, 2019 |
If you wanted to keep it Nigerian - don't bring it to Foreign Affairs thread - solely dedicated to comparing the shitty Nigeria and the progressive Kenya. Yes Kenya became the first country in Africa to annual it's presidential election. THAT IS PROGRESS. HUGE PROGRESS by our Justice System. Danielnino00: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:23am On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: the man who challenged the election result in court later pulled out at the last minute.. lmao... Progress indeed! You can only deceive the gullible ones here.. Kenya is indeed progressing with it's fast growing slum and starving population in the north! And Massive corruption! Try ranking better than Nigeria in the TI corruption precipitation index then we will take you serious... 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 11:27am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Danielnino00: With a toothless corrupt judiciary like that of Nigeria, incompetent electoral systems(officials).... can that process really qualify to be called an election? to most of wiser brains that's just a waste of time and resources, 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:29am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Fact is our courts showed Kenyans and the world that a presidential election of a sitting president can be annulled. Obviously the loser knew he had no chance at repeat election but that is a story for another day. There was another petition after the first one - and that one was rejected. Now that is democracy 101. In Africa - Zambia - probably can hold the candle to Kenya when it come to long period of democratic elections. We can may add Tanzania. The rest of Africa have had military rules and suspended democracy for long periods. Ghana has emerged a strong democracy after short period of military rule and Nigeria ought to learn from her. I had quickly checked your election thread - boy that sounds like party nomination in kenya - missing ballots or not enough - open voter bribery - violence.You need to annual your elections so many times. As for corruption - we always rank like 3 or 4 position below you - which honestly is such a shame. It one of thing that is holding our potential and we are working on it. I think eventually we will leave Nigeria in that shameful list of corruption. Danielnino00: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 11:44am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Stevoh18: Why did you change your name? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 11:49am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Hallelujah! No more tribe info on the new Addis Ababan ID starting from next week ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 11:52am On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018:u are kinda mad u want to chase a man away from his house it's a shame that you guys don't have a forum shame *spits* |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:52am On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: Frayam is not based in Lagos. They are based in the US. Lagos and even your Nairobi are their branch offices. ![]() The co-founders are many and a Kenyan is part of the team. So your attempt at trying hard to discredit these reports is futile ![]() https://fraym.io/team/ 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:59am On Feb 23, 2019 |
@rvp2018 The report is credible. Even your own people sanctioned it. ![]()
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 12:03pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:08pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
It was co-founded by some Americans and the Nigerian lady -QUEEN C. NWORISARA-QUINN . And that is why they are churning lots of Nigeria heavy stuff. I have no problem with that. They should restrict their studies to Nigeria - and maybe Kenya where they have some office. Otherwise they are producing totally shitty data - like Yemi Kale of NBS. forgiveness: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 12:08pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 12:10pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
ednited:it'll surely get better. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:12pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: The election was annulled cus your electoral commission was incompetent simple!/ As for corruption, we have always ranked better than you for as far as I can remember and nothing will change! Keep following the election updates.. You might get some news that will give you an erection 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 12:12pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
ednited: It's a different account but same person |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:13pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
That was dangerous. I mean in Kenya people can pretty much tell you tribe from your name anyways. ednited: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:13pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: Stop fooling around. The co-founders are many and most foreigners. ![]()
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:16pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
And you think all these other African commissions of election are very competent. Elections were annulled because of our judiciary now have cojones.An erection without cojones is pretty useless. We have very mature institutions now. The fight against graft is ongoing. And our fight is more sustainable because it's not driven by Buhari (personality) but institutions. Strong institutions are what eventually defeat corruption. Anything else is not sustainable. And I don't think we are more corrupt than Nigeria. These are 'perception" studies. Kenya are just more perceptive of the problem of graft. You cannot be that corrupt and thrive. In any case we are working on our corruption problem...and I expect to see change of perception. Danielnino00: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:19pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
Americans and a Nigerian. That is why they are based in US, Lagos and of course like everyone else is realizing you need to be in NAIROBI if you want to do anything in Africa - Nairobi is the hub. Otherwise this is just another Nigeria start up trying to pretend it can analyse the whole of Africa... forgiveness: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:19pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: So you are now trying to say that transparency international index isn't credible ? but when an index for poverty is released you will be all over the moon! Your hypocrisy stinks to the heavens! For how any years have you been putting measures in place to fight corruption and how much have you achieved? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 12:20pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:24pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
Your fight against corruption can be summarized as Buhari. Kenya started fighting corruption in 1990s. When you were still under Sani Abacha - we had formed the first Anti-Corruption Commission(KAAC) - and we have seen it all - for 30yrs - and now we know very well the only way to sustainably fight corruption is through institutions. And it's not easy fight. But ours is a sustainable fight. We formed that KAAC in 97 - was declared unconstitutional later - then formed another one and now have EACC that anchored in the constitution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Anti-Corruption_Authority It's very hard to fight corruption when you're a democratic nation like kenya where thieves enjoy all sort of rights from corrupt justice systems...but we are slowly and surely going to slay it by focussing on institutions. Danielnino00: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 12:27pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: People could still tell your tribe by your name here too. They can easily tell me my tribe but putting it on your ID makes you feel different from other Ethiopians and it says that your tribe matters than your nationality. I wanted to reply to what you have said before, which is related to Ethiopia being divided is good option. . .which is not. The people are being blind here enji they could work it out together. Amhara people are always ready to make unity with other Ethiopians. Southern Ethiopians and Amhara don't clash. Just the others which are driving us crazy. Sometimes I think it is a disease.They don't have any point. Still Amharas are dying and getting misplaced, you will never hear them wanting to separate and this is one thing every Ethiopian knows. May God help others to be like the Southern Ethiopians too. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:30pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
I think oromos and somalis have huge axes to grind because they feel historically and for like 100yrs plus - the Amharas and lately the Tigrayas has had it good. That is what need to get resolved if Ethiopia is to remain united. Oromo and Somali grievances need to be heard and somehow redressed. Hidding tribes or banning it like Rwanda won't help. I can tell you what we have done in Kenya. We recognised tribes and have put criteria that any appointment must reflect the face of kenya. We do tribal census of jobs to ensure every tribe is getting their % of jobs. If there is a gov job - an omo person or anuak from deep southern ethiopia applied - they are more than guaranteed to get. We do the same for women(33%) and disabled(5%). We also have equisalation fund to help those regions that historically have remained marginalized. This is work in progress obviously but we learnt some lesson from our 2017 tribal warfare. You guys already have strong federalism. What is needed is to just ensure national resources are equitably distributed. Do census of police & army - ensure tigrays are 5% - oromos are 30% or something like that. Otherwise Oromos and Somalis will always feel the need to attack Amharas and Tigrays. ednited: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:33pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018:The usual "Kenya has this" bullsh*t You seem to have everything with little or no result.. Is Ghana not a Democratic country too? Corruption in Ghana is one of the lowest in Africa... What about South Africa? Is Kenya more Democratic than those countries?? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 12:35pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
ednited: Wooo that's a great progress ... We are also having new registration of persons called "National Integrated Identity Management System (NIIMIS) or Huduma Namba |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:38pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: The profile of Ben Leo can't be matched by you but you think his analyses are shitty. ![]() Let us see who is shitty btw you and these Americans. Ben Leo Ben is an expert in development finance, geostatistics, consumer analysis, and African economic and security issues. While working in the White House and at the U.S. Treasury, he advised the President on central, eastern, and southern African nations and architected billion dollar debt relief agreements. As the Global Policy Director at the ONE Campaign, Ben led a team focused on issues like infrastructure, investment, and trade, in addition to health, agriculture, and transparency. He also serves as visiting fellow at the Center for Global Development. LETICIA RICHARD DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS Leticia heads Fraym’s operations and talent development. Originally from Madagascar, she started her career in Paris where she became an expert in building scalable company cultures. Before Fraym, she was the Chief Operating Officer for Europe and North America at forMetris, a data and analytics company that specialized in learning measurement. Prior to forMetris, Leticia managed the European sales and marketing operations for Zend Technologies. ROB MORELLO DIRECTOR OF DATA ANALYTICS & CO‑FOUNDER Rob has pioneered the Fraym approach for leveraging the power of various data sources, including survey data and satellite imagery, to identify target populations with a high level of detail in Africa. Prior to Fraym, Robert worked at the Center for Global Development, primarily conducting research on mobile phone survey methods and African statistical systems. Earlier, he worked for AidData and started HELP International’s monitoring and evaluation program in Uganda. Rob has a Master’s in Public Policy from the McCourt School at Georgetown University and bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University BOBBY J. PITTMAN CHAIRMAN & CO-FOUNDER Bobby is the managing partner at Kupanda Capital, an investment platform established to create, capitalize and scale pan-African companies. Prior to Kupanda Capital, Bobby was Vice President of Infrastructure, Private Sector and Regional Integration at the African Development Bank (AfDB). There he managed one of the largest portfolios in Africa, including more than $25 billion in active projects across 52 African countries. Bobby previously held senior positions at several U.S. government agencies, including the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Council, Treasury Department, State Department and White House. QUEEN C. NWORISARA-QUINN BOARD MEMBER & CO‑FOUNDER Queen has worked to co-found and build several new companies and ventures, including Fraym and Nithio, an energy finance platform for the off grid solar sector in Africa. She has worked on deals in various sectors across Africa, including media, consumer, industrials, and energy. While at the African Development Bank she contributed to the effective implementation of key decisions and strategy to manage a US$25 billion portfolio of public and private sector investments. Queen has worked to provide tailored advice and support to entrepreneurs, project developers, fund managers and corporations operating in Africa. Where did you handle$25 billion dollars in your profile? ![]() JACKIE MWANIKI KENYA COUNTRY MANAGER ![]() Jackie is the Kenya Country manager at Fraym, and leads the company’s East Africa operations. For over a decade, Jackie has been instrumental in advocating for organizations both in the public and private sector in Eastern Africa. With a background in geographic information systems, she has an in-depth understanding of how geo-analytics can help companies recognize opportunities and risks, and improve decision making. Prior to joining Fraym, Jackie worked with Esri Eastern Africa, Ramani Geosystems, and Map Intl. Jackie has a BSc in geospatial engineering, GIS, and cartography, and holds a MS in GIS and remote sensing. She gave the information that Mombasa is empty. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:41pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
I think South Africa will eventually catch up with Kenya if they are not careful. As for Ghana - I think the trauma of Jerry Rawling is still fresh in any corrupt mind. We don't have the luxury of allowing military man like Jerry Rawling to clean up our mess. The same way Kagame is single-handily dealing with corruption. And as you well know we have been very democratic (by african standards) the longest with maybe Zambia & TZ - and Botswana. Anyway corruption is a big problem in Kenya. We need to continue dealing with it. And we are. Not through Buhari or some personality but through building and rebuilding institutions. Danielnino00: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 12:41pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
Ufff |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:43pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
rvp2018: Show us one journal magazine that acepted just one of your shitty analysis. ![]() |
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