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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:57pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


The most important point is developing and not just playing time. If not championship players would be the highest quality players due to loads of playing time.

Iheanacho is blessed to work with Brendan Rodgers. He should shun that playing time thing and train his socks off. Brendan Rodgers is insane on the training pitch and Nacho will gain loads than playing regularly in a system that will not suit his development.

Rodgers plays and trains his players at a high intensity.



“I demand all players train like they play. I always say to the players here when they sign a contract, you’re signing a training contract. I’ll decide whether you play or not.

“The money is in your bank every month but you’re to work and get better.”... Brendan Rodgers.

If game time is not that important for developing players why do big clubs loan out their young players to lesser clubs or lesser leagues? Game time is a very important part of the development.

You have come again with this your "Drills" theory. No matter how much the coach demands from you during training it cannot be like the experience from a real live game! Iheanacho needs that game time now like never before.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:05pm On Feb 28, 2019
Icon4s:


If game time is not that important for developing players why do big clubs loan out their young players to lesser clubs or lesser leagues? Game time is a very important part of the development.

You have come again with this your "Drills" theory. No matter how much the coach demands from you during training it cannot be like the experience from a real live game! Iheanacho needs that game time now like never before.

I did not say playing time is not important but I said it is not as important as training under the right system.

Players can play and train regularly in a wrong system and show no improvement.

While players training under the right system with few game time tend to show tremendous development.

That is down to training in the right system and intensity.


Nacho is under a brilliant manager. He should learn and train regularly under him and will show improvement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:05pm On Feb 28, 2019
Icon4s:


If game time is not that important for developing players why do big clubs loan out their young players to lesser clubs or lesser leagues? Game time is a very important part of the development.

You have come again with this your "Drills" theory. No matter how much the coach demands from you during training it cannot be like the experience from a real live game! Iheanacho needs that game time now like never before.

Nacho needs the intense training now than ever before.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 1:34pm On Feb 28, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 2:11pm On Feb 28, 2019
Icon4s:


If game time is not that important for developing players why do big clubs loan out their young players to lesser clubs or lesser leagues? Game time is a very important part of the development.

You have come again with this your "Drills" theory. No matter how much the coach demands from you during training it cannot be like the experience from a real live game! Iheanacho needs that game time now like never before.

Why are you like Iheanacho needs game time?

He has had more game time than most players his age, what he needs now is development

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:37pm On Feb 28, 2019
Earthquake2:


Why are you like Iheanacho needs game time?

He has had more game time than most players his age, what he needs now is development

Development without game time?

What I said is he needs more game time to aid his development.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:39pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Nacho needs the intense training now than ever before.

He also needs the game time now than ever before.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:43pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I did not say playing time is not important but I said it is not as important as training under the right system.

Players can play and train regularly in a wrong system and show no improvement.

While players training under the right system with few game time tend to show tremendous development.

That is down to training in the right system and intensity.


Nacho is under a brilliant manager. He should learn and train regularly under him and will show improvement.

This was what u said when he was under Pep

I just hope this Rodgers' tenure will favor Iheanacho else I don't know what defense mechanism u will come up with again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:44pm On Feb 28, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:36pm On Feb 28, 2019
Icon4s:


This was what u said when he was under Pep

I just hope this Rodgers' tenure will favor Iheanacho else I don't know what defense mechanism u will come up with again.

I said the same under Pep. Unfortunately, Nacho chose to move for game time and landed in an unfavorable system.

I hope he sticks to Rodgers and grinds it out this time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:45pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I said the same under Pep. Unfortunately, Nacho chose to move for game time and landed in an unfavorable system.

I hope he sticks to Rodgers and grinds it out this time .

Gbam!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:25pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I said the same under Pep. Unfortunately, Nacho chose to move for game time and landed in an unfavorable system.

I hope he sticks to Rodgers and grinds it out this time.


We do have an AFCON later this year. So is the process worth not making the team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:32pm On Feb 28, 2019
BascoVanVeli:



We do have an AFCON later this year. So is the process worth not making the team?

Nacho needs to keep working on improving himself. At the AFCON we need quality than playing time merchants. What is the use of playing time if he goes to a system where he will not develop and the pattern of play would not suit him.

He will get nods to play due to the intensity of the system but his improvement remains the priority.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gustav25: 4:42pm On Feb 28, 2019
grin grin Desperately trying to say a flop isn't a flop

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:55pm On Feb 28, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:57pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Nacho needs to keep working on improving himself. At the AFCON we need quality than playing time merchants. What is the use of playing time if he goes to a system where he will not develop and the pattern of play would not suit him.

He will get nods to play due to the intensity of the system but his improvement remains the priority.

So are you saying he should just focus on training and be kept out of the real playing time? Are you saying playing time is not part of development? Or what are you saying?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:00pm On Feb 28, 2019
mostob:
you are right bro...but remember end product matters


Well, truly end products matter. But when there arent even time to start the product nko? it means the end raw materials starts to rot like imported rice that the nigerian customs seized last year.


The young player now starts to bother only about getting playing time even if he is potentially messi. Thats just it to me.

See the Lukaku that is all fat and yet still play. Yeah his talent aint in doubt, but his size wouldave forced many managers to bench him. Man U fans complain alot, but now as he score two goals goan see the same peeps hailing him like a god. lol


overall, even if youre mesi, and you dont see playing time, it will affect end product.


Iwobi is the perfect Nigerian footballer example.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:01pm On Feb 28, 2019
BascoVanVeli:



We do have an AFCON later this year. So is the process worth not making the team?

Sebi TheGoodJoe has already classified the AFCON as "Short gains". grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:10pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Nacho needs to keep working on improving himself. At the AFCON we need quality than playing time merchants. What is the use of playing time if he goes to a system where he will not develop and the pattern of play would not suit him.

He will get nods to play due to the intensity of the system but his improvement remains the priority.

The coach won't select him if he doesn't play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:13pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I said the same under Pep. Unfortunately, Nacho chose to move for game time and landed in an unfavorable system.

I hope he sticks to Rodgers and grinds it out this time.

Let's wait and see what Rodgers think of Nacho first...

I'm still laughing at this your "Brendan Rodgers is a genius" statement sha.. grin E too funny whalai!/

You have no idea the type of talent Rodgers had at his disposal at Liverpool and the many players he sighed but couldn't get the best out of.. A good example is Lazar Markovic!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:25pm On Feb 28, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:30pm On Feb 28, 2019
Danielnino00:


No pressure there mate... Ozil might even return to the bench for the next game.

Iwobi has been one of Arsenal key players this season and I don't see anything changing...

With the way Ozil played yesternight. He will play against Tottenham. Just dont know if he will start or come from the bench sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:39pm On Feb 28, 2019
daveP:
With the way Ozil played yesternight. He will play against Tottenham. Just dont know if he will start or come from the bench sha.

Don't be surprised if u don't see Ozil in the squad later... He might have gotten injured while peeing....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:04pm On Feb 28, 2019
BascoVanVeli:


The coach won't select him if he doesn't play.

Neither will the coach select him if he is having a run of poor games due to playing in the wrong system. Nacho's best bet is to strap his boots and start training like a beast.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:12pm On Feb 28, 2019
Icon4s:


So are you saying he should just focus on training and be kept out of the real playing time? Are you saying playing time is not part of development? Or what are you saying?

I do not know how else to explain it. If playing time comes, good. If it does not, Nacho should continue grinding it out in training. Improving his quality, especially his work rate. If he continues improving, there will be a time he will get a fair run of games.

I am not saying playing time is not part of development but it is a small part of it. The main part of it happens behind the scenes and if Nacho pays attention, he will improve.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:19pm On Feb 28, 2019
gustav25:
grin grin Desperately trying to say a flop isn't a flop

In fact, Luka Modric was widely considered a flop in the first year of his big-money move from Tottenham to Real Madrid. Spanish newspaper Marca conducted a poll to determine who fans believed was the worst La Liga signing in 2012 and Madrid’s new diminutive £30 million acquisition came out on top ahead of Alex Song with a significant 32.2 percent of the vote. Having only made 19 appearances, scoring one goal and averaging 38 minutes per game by the end of December, it is easy to see why Modric was considered a flop early on at the Bernabeau.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/the18.com/soccer-entertainment/luka-modric-named-laliga-worst-signing-2012%3famp

Flopping is not the end of a career but bouncing back through perseverance and hardwork.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gustav25: 6:24pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


In fact, Luka Modric was widely considered a flop in the first year of his big-money move from Tottenham to Real Madrid. Spanish newspaper Marca conducted a poll to determine who fans believed was the worst La Liga signing in 2012 and Madrid’s new diminutive £30 million acquisition came out on top ahead of Alex Song with a significant 32.2 percent of the vote. Having only made 19 appearances, scoring one goal and averaging 38 minutes per game by the end of December, it is easy to see why Modric was considered a flop early on at the Bernabeau.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/the18.com/soccer-entertainment/luka-modric-named-laliga-worst-signing-2012%3famp

Flopping is not the end of a career but bouncing back through perseverance and hardwork.

Do you accept Iheanacho Nacho mbappe Kelechi is a flop at leceister city ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:30pm On Feb 28, 2019
daveP:


Well, truly end products matter. But when there arent even time to start the product nko? it means the end raw materials starts to rot like imported rice that the nigerian customs seized last year.


The young player now starts to bother only about getting playing time even if he is potentially messi. Thats just it to me.

See the Lukaku that is all fat and yet still play. Yeah his talent aint in doubt, but his size wouldave forced many managers to bench him. Man U fans complain alot, but now as he score two goals goan see the same peeps hailing him like a god. lol


overall, even if youre mesi, and you dont see playing time, it will affect end product.


Iwobi is the perfect Nigerian footballer example.

Did you call Lukaku fat ❓ simply bewildered.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:34pm On Feb 28, 2019
gustav25:

Do you accept Iheanacho Nacho mbappe Kelechi is a flop at leceister city ?

I do not use flop in general because I believe there are factors that affect performances, try to find the factors, eliminate them and perform better.

You might focus on shouting flop up and down. My focus is what steps can Nacho take to blossom. I derive joy in seeing people overcome their obstacles in life. Not celebrating challenges people are facing.

Food for thought.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 6:34pm On Feb 28, 2019
komekn:


Did you call Lukaku fat ❓ simply bewildered.

Lukaku is the fattest player in the premier league

Though he slimmed of recent but during Mourinho era he even had a pot belly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gustav25: 6:39pm On Feb 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I do not use flop in general because I believe there are factors that affect performances, try to find the factors, eliminate them and perform better.

You might focus on shouting flop up and down. My focus is what steps can Nacho take to blossom. I derive joy in seeing people overcome their obstacles in life. Not celebrating challenges people are facing.

Food for thought.
Oga Joe , is Iheanacho Nacho mbappe Kelechi a flop at Leicester city : yes or No ? Factoring no factors ,just answer truthfully and save us your food for thought because I'm not Hungry yet
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:41pm On Feb 28, 2019
gustav25:
Oga Joe , is Iheanacho Nacho mbappe Kelechi a flop at Leicester city : yes or No ? Factoring no factors ,just answer truthfully and save us your food for thought because I'm not Hungry yet

I have told you my own perspective. Nacho is facing a trying time and there are steps he has to take to surmount it.

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