No Dembele And Semedo against lyon, have i posted this here before.

philtea:

That is a big lie
Arthur is our best signing
The pesin that scouted and sign him deserves two bottles of chilled Goldberg

Asin i wonder where this people dey watch matches. Or do they stream 240p links??


Arthur and lenglet have been our best signings this season.

All of una wey say roberto is better defensively...did u watch the match valverde played roberto as an lb and semedo as an lb?



Roberto was raped consistently...gave another disasterclass. Caused a re,tarded goal. Guess what our coach did? He subbed semedo who had a good performance after 1st half and replaced him with roberto at rb. I think we ended drawing the match. Roberto played average there.



Una no go see that one ooo...but you will all watch classico and start saying trash.

Why the argument?
Even on paper, semedo can't be better than roberto offensively and roberto can't be better defensively. One is a midfielder turned rb and one is a natural rb.
Check who has the highest assists. The team has conceded less goals when semedo is playing rb.
Semedo is better defensively but roberto is better all round. Graduating from la masia is always a plus

SerVik:
Vinicius wasn't much of a threat yesterday but I wouldn't completely allude it to roberto. Vinicius' decision making is terrible as was evident in the first leg so solari tried to reduce the shooting burden on him. He was instructed to find benzema and bale in space, both of whom have better accuracy or At least are supposed to.

So unlike the first game where vinicius was constantly burning semedo with pace and was always looking to cut in, in yesterday's game we saw more of crosses and lay offs from him. And the fact that pique and rakitic all teamed up to support Roberto was also a masterstroke, semedo didn't get that much support in the first leg, he was often left isolated against not just vinicius but regulion.

Roberto offers loads more in attack as can be seen in his assist and goal numbers but semedo is better defensively. At the end of the day, it all boils down to finding the right balance.

Thank God! Someone who has good football analysis. Roberto was helped by raki, vidal and pique so the load wasn't too much on him.

ayoalani:
Why the argument?
Even on paper, semedo can't be better than roberto offensively and roberto can't be better defensively. One is a midfielder turned rb and one is a natural rb.
Check who has the highest assists. The team has conceded less goals when semedo is playing rb.
Semedo is better defensively but roberto is better all round. Graduating from la masia is always a plus

Spot on! But people count dribbling as offensive play


Semedo is better offensively when playing with dembele as an RW tho. Both of them play better together.

That vinicious boy is an amateur footballer . When he faced semedo e day do anyhw but yesterday wen he faced roberto he was silenced. As for vidal i love his defensive qualities.

As for me our coach does not still hv sense. Let him prove me wrong tho

Olamyyde:

Spot on! But people count dribbling as offensive play


Semedo is better offensively when playing with dembele as an RW tho. Both of them play better together.

I guess so
i like the competition anyway
i don't know why i keep having the feeling that it would still be semedo or roberto for rb, semedo or rb as alba's back up incase he's unavailable and roberto would sumtyms play rw.

snrman:
As for me our coach does not still hv sense. Let him prove me wrong tho

Smh for u

philtea:

That is a big lie
Arthur is our best signing
The pesin that scouted and sign him deserves two bottles of chilled Goldberg

Arthur has been very good but has no exceptional match under his belt or any exceptional performance. Vidal meanwhile has been a beast since he started playing more minutes.Of course,he doesn't play 1-2 passes or play diagonal passes or any of that but he's work rate has been exceptional and has really helped us defensively and going forward.He's the one hat has been making tackles in this team and winning balls for us.He's had a couple of bad games especially that match against Athletico Bilbao and he doesn't have that Barca flare but he's been our best signing

Adiwana:


Arthur has been very good but has no exceptional match under his belt or any exceptional performance. Vidal meanwhile has been a beast since he started playing more minutes.Of course,he doesn't play 1-2 passes or play diagonal passes or any of that but he's work rate has been exceptional and has really helped us defensively and going forward.He's the one hat has been making tackles in this team and winning balls for us.He's had a couple of bad games especially that match against Athletico Bilbao and he doesn't have that Barca flare but he's been our best signing

I hope this post isn't in any way trying to put Vidal n Arthur in same sentence

SerVik:
Vinicius wasn't much of a threat yesterday but I wouldn't completely allude it to roberto. Vinicius' decision making is terrible as was evident in the first leg so solari tried to reduce the shooting burden on him. He was instructed to find benzema and bale in space, both of whom have better accuracy or At least are supposed to.

So unlike the first game where vinicius was constantly burning semedo with pace and was always looking to cut in, in yesterday's game we saw more of crosses and lay offs from him. And the fact that pique and rakitic all teamed up to support Roberto was also a masterstroke, semedo didn't get that much support in the first leg, he was often left isolated against not just vinicius but regulion.

Roberto offers loads more in attack as can be seen in his assist and goal numbers but semedo is better defensively. At the end of the day, it all boils down to finding the right balance.

Yes,he's decision making was poor but to say that credit is not to be given to Roberto is really unfair to Roberto. The thing most people don't understand about defending is that it's not all about making tackles or clearing balls or committing fouls but to make the attackers make mistakes which what was Roberto did.Whenever Vinicus had the ball yesterday,Roberto tracked back as a make shift CB instead of charging towards him as a RB.This allowed Pique to be at his CB position instead of coming out to help Roberto which is if you noticed was what Pique did for Semedo in the 2nd leg.There was this chance Vinicus had in the game in which both Semedo and Pique were marking him at the same time.That never happened in this game. When Roberto had taken that make shift CB role,he then charged towards Vinicus who had no other option but to go for the crosses which was then cleared by Pique.Some of the times he wanted to cut in,he met Rakitic.It was a really good defensive outing by Roberto

10Dove:
I hope this post isn't in any way trying to put Vidal n Arthur in same sentence

Both play different things.Arthur is a CM while Vidal is a Box to Box Midfielder. Arthur was injured and we did just fine and didn't even miss him.

Adiwana:


Both play different things.Arthur is a CM while Vidal is a Box to Box Midfielder. Arthur was injured and we did just fine and didn't even miss him.

We didnt miss him? Smh! Arthur is the best we've signed for the past 3 seasons, followed closely by umtiti n Dembele... Vidal does not even come close!

I understand the whole Vidal thing.Hes just like Rakitic. They don't play eye catching passes or have the whole game revolving around them.Heck i even see Busquet in matches this days more than Rakitic but there's a reason why they are elite footballers. Someone said that we have conceded less with Semedo at right back and I will tell you Vidal is the reason for that.He covers Semedo a lot in games and makes a lot of tackles for him.Watch Semedo with and without Vidal and you will see the difference.That second leg is an example.But as i said before before,he's not a Barca-Esque kind of player so we won't know

calculator123:
I think Alba and Messi needs to change their cut back and shoot combination, it is really very predictable match in match out and other teams are usually more aware of that back from Alba. An example was against Lyon, he kept on trying the cutback but to no avail. If we are to beat Lyon, they may have to tweak that pattern a little. Just my thought before una come for my head

Good point bros. Our attack needs to be innovative and not one minded. Exactly why I think some cules are complaining about the over-reliance on #passtomessi tactic, just that they were over stressing the point and came across as having hatred for E.V.

Our only goal yesterday came from a Messiescue chip by Raki., others players in that position may have hold the ball and trudge back to Messi to do the magic. (Dembele and Suarez did that a few times yesterday).

Adiwana:


Arthur has been very good but has no exceptional match under his belt or any exceptional performance. Vidal meanwhile has been a beast since he started playing more minutes.Of course,he doesn't play 1-2 passes or play diagonal passes or any of that but he's work rate has been exceptional and has really helped us defensively and going forward.He's the one hat has been making tackles in this team and winning balls for us.He's had a couple of bad games especially that match against Athletico Bilbao and he doesn't have that Barca flare but he's been our best signing

For the records, Arthur was exceptional vs spurs in the UCL first leg... only overshadowed by messi master class that night..Arthur was even trending that night.

Adiwana:


I really agree with you.Once Semedo gets his final ball correctly,he could really be a Dani Alves.But you can't deny that he's game has really improved since he came to the team.Roberto on the other hand has also grown and in all,I think we all can agree that we need this kind of competition between our players

ahh the competition is very good. That's why Lenglet is doing so well, yesterday was Lenglet's best match for me, I see Umtiti will really struggle to bench Lenglet. I just wish Coutinho and Dembele had such resourceful competition amongst themselves

Adiwana:
I understand the whole Vidal thing.Hes just like Rakitic. They don't play eye catching passes or have the whole game revolving around them.Heck i even see Busquet in matches this days more than Rakitic but there's a reason why they are elite footballers. Someone said that we have conceded less with Semedo at right back and I will tell you Vidal is the reason for that.He covers Semedo a lot in games and makes a lot of tackles for him.Watch Semedo with and without Vidal and you will see the difference.That second leg is an example.But as i said before before,he's not a Barca-Esque kind of player so we won't know

I disagree, Rakitic does not get carded like Vidal, Rakitic has a couple of assist n goals here n there to back him up, Vidal has NOTHING!!! only forming agbero Ugandan on the pitch... when he tackles, it's always a foul...Semedo is defensively solid even before he got to barca. You should have seen him in Benfica or Euro 2016, guy knows how to put a foot right!

10Dove:
We didnt miss him? Smh! Arthur is the best we've signed for the past 3 seasons, followed closely by umtiti n Dembele... Vidal does not even come close!

Bro,Dembele is the only noticeable player we missed.Maybe Umtiti as we haven't really played much with him this season and some of the goals we have conceded apart from when Pique was playing badly at the beginning of the season has been from Lenglet. But Arthur,nah. The past few weeks that we played badly hasn't been because we were missing Arthur was generally the form of the team was poor.

10Dove:
I disagree, Rakitic does not get carded like Vidal, Rakitic has a couple of assist n goals here n there to back him up, Vidal has NOTHING!!! only forming agbero Ugandan on the pitch... when he tackles, it's always a foul...Semedo is defensively solid even before he got to barca. You should have seen him in Benfica or Euro 2016, guy knows how to put a foot right!

More tackles,more susceptible to get carded.Vidal's job in this team is not to get assists and goals but to form that Agbero and stop teams from scoring and that he has done very well.Am not talking about Semedo of Benefica but that of Barca. You may not like him but cant deny that anytime he plays well,he's really a wall.

HumbleBoy21:
No Dembele And Semedo against lyon, have i posted this here before.

That, is what should concern us now and not this bants we are throwing between 2 of our players over past games.

Adiwana:


Bro,Dembele is the only noticeable player we missed.Maybe Umtiti as we haven't really played much with him this season and some of the goals we have conceded apart from when Pique was playing badly at the beginning of the season has been from Lenglet. But Arthur,nah. The past few weeks that we played badly hasn't been because we were missing Arthur was generally the form of the team was poor.

Go thru past pages on this same forum n see how people has been lamenting on Arthur's injury n how we miss him... You think if Vidal gets injured for 18months anyone will notice? I doubt. We've been lacking control at the centre since Arthur hasn't been there.

Adiwana:


More tackles,more susceptible to get carded.Vidal's job in this team is not get assists and goals but to form that Agbero and stop teams from scoring.

Does he tackle more than raki? Remember that running up n down is different from tackling? Vidal na bizzy body e dey form for pitch these days...his time has past just like his compatriot at united...age is knocking...

snrman:
As for me our coach does not still hv sense. Let him prove me wrong tho

Haha? that's too harsh. If there's a part of his coaching you think needs improvement point it out. After all he out coached scolari in the 2 classicos back2back.

10Dove:
Go thru past pages on this same forum n see how people has been lamenting on Arthur's injury n how we miss him... You think if Vidal gets injured for 18months anyone will notice? I doubt. We've been lacking control at the centre since Arthur hasn't been there.

Agreed. but gidigbo sometimes has its own use o.

10Dove:
Go thru past pages on this same forum n see how people has been lamenting on Arthur's injury n how we miss him... You think if Vidal gets injured for 18months anyone will notice? I doubt. We've been lacking control at the centre since Arthur hasn't been there.

What?? Valverde's formation has always been a Box to Box,a DM and a CM. Yes,that control has lacked but defensively we have conceded less even in most recent games we have played really badly. Games Vidal played badly has seen us really shake at the back. Real Valladolid and Athletico Bilbao matches are example of those

Awesome01:


Agreed. but gidigbo sometimes has its own use o.

Usefulness like how he was red carded at bayern vs madrid doing gidigbo bah? If it's gidigbo like Casemiro or Kante with sense, I'll take it.. not this brawn gidigbo

Adiwana:


What?? Valverde's formation has always been a Box to Box,a DM and a CM. Yes,that control has lacked but defensively we have conceded less even in most recent games we have played really badly. Games Vidal played badly has seen us really shake at the back. Real Valladolid and Athletico Bilbao matches are example of those

When Iniesta was here, we played ini, raki n Busi, under same long nose valverde, raki cm, ini Am, Busi dm... Paulinho often came from the bench. Vidal offers nothing going forward, then offers yellow card at the back...passing sef, he's too average. It is what it is.

Awesome01:


Haha? that's too harsh. If there's a part of his coaching you think needs improvement point it out. After all he out coached scolari in the 2 classicos back2back.

Hehehe... Solari that's in his first senior coaching job? You know how long Ibrahimovic's long nose uncle has been coaching? He's not bad in all areas sha, he's just a mini mourinho

SerVik:
Vinicius wasn't much of a threat yesterday but I wouldn't completely allude it to roberto. Vinicius' decision making is terrible as was evident in the first leg so solari tried to reduce the shooting burden on him. He was instructed to find benzema and bale in space, both of whom have better accuracy or At least are supposed to.

So unlike the first game where vinicius was constantly burning semedo with pace and was always looking to cut in, in yesterday's game we saw more of crosses and lay offs from him. And the fact that pique and rakitic all teamed up to support Roberto was also a masterstroke, semedo didn't get that much support in the first leg, he was often left isolated against not just vinicius but regulion.

Roberto offers loads more in attack as can be seen in his assist and goal numbers but semedo is better defensively. At the end of the day, it all boils down to finding the right balance.

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