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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:44am On Mar 04, 2019
Nigeria need to wean itself off oil - that is what I have gathered from these nearly 4,000 pages - everything else seem to have collapse in 1960s - and completely during the oil boom (oil crisis for everyone else) in 1970s - what seem to have happened is everyone left for urban centers - they had the world fastest urbanization in 70s and 80s - now more than half the population are stuck in urban slumpolis - with no jobs, no electricity, no water. You can imagine even China now despite 50yrs of sustained growth is not near that level of urbanization - and they still have farmers out there doing the hard work.

Nigeria find itself with so much land and very few farmers. Unless they mechanize (quite expensive) their farming - North Nigeria will remain fallow desolate and yet fertile - and Nigeria will continue to spend 1/3 of oil money importing food.

vaxx:
Northern Nigeria is a region that contradicts its natural endowments. Despite the existence of many economic resources such as tin, kaolin, a variety of agricultural products and a huge fertile land, the people remain in abject poverty leading the whole other regions. the land is fertlile but not all crops can sustain from the North.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 9:46am On Mar 04, 2019
tylann:

That Is our matatu culture
Graffiti everywhere

It's an interesting culture, I must say. Do they also play loud music?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:49am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:


It's an interesting culture, I must say. Do they also play loud music?

It can burst your eardrums cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:53am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:


LMAO. Can you believe it? Before I joined Nairaland, one of them used to tell me that "Nigeria is just like South Africa. Everything ". You can imagine the shock of my life when instead I saw a 5th world country that cannot be compared to anything I've seen while awake, only in nightmares grin

Tell him!

It was the same with when they came to where I was schooling they are fooling themselves up and down the place that they were the richest blacks the most developed country in africa. But I was in nigeria I know they're fooling themselves

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 9:54am On Mar 04, 2019
tylann:

It can burst your eardrums cool


Well, it seems our cultures are similar as far as that goes. Are they also assholes? grin
Ours are major douchebags.

[url]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWATM8nd_PE/url]

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:59am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:



Well, it seems our cultures are similar as far as that goes. Are they also assholes? grin
Ours are major douchebags.

[url]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWATM8nd_PE/url]

Yes they are majorleague dcks
Very rowdy and they smoke alot of weed

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:04am On Mar 04, 2019
sufferNsmiling:


It was the same with when they came to where I was schooling they are fooling themselves up and down the place that they were the richest blacks the most developed country in africa. But I was in nigeria I know they're fooling themselves


Well, they're only lying to themselves & noone else. Because the female that told me that, gave birth to all 4 of her children here. When she visited Nigeria a few years ago, her kids wouldn't have it. They had to cut the holidays short because the kids wanted to come back "home". Now I don't know which part of Nigeria she's from that traumatized her kids laidat, but those children don't wanna go back grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:07am On Mar 04, 2019
rvp2018:
Nigeria need to wean itself off oil - that is what I have gathered from these nearly 4,000 pages - everything else seem to have collapse in 1960s - and completely during the oil boom (oil crisis for everyone else) in 1970s - what seem to have happened is everyone left for urban centers - they had the world fastest urbanization in 70s and 80s - now more than half the population are stuck in urban slumpolis - with no jobs, no electricity, no water. You can imagine even China now despite 50yrs of sustained growth is not near that level of urbanization - and they still have farmers out there doing the hard work.

Nigeria find itself with so much land and very few farmers. Unless they mechanize (quite expensive) their farming - North Nigeria will remain fallow desolate and yet fertile - and Nigeria will continue to spend 1/3 of oil money importing food.

NIGERIA problem is simple. failed educational system and massive chunks of illiterate must be eradicated

There are many literate and brilliant Nigerians . . . which do not live in Nigeria. They’re in Britain, US, china, Ukraine, Australia, infact some are even in Ghana There are Also many literate and brilliant Nigerians in Nigeria, but no one listens to them. they’re actually seen as crazy people. The large percentage of the population is either die-hard rural, or half-baked. they drool over musicians and entertainers day and night while their country falls apart. they steal ballot boxes, act as thugs for these corrupt politicians. they fall for bags of rice, beans, and dried fish distributed to them during electron periods. and then vote for the wrong person.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:07am On Mar 04, 2019
Kazikazi:
a githeri man is talking!
Do u know why I wanted him to post them here?

Because you're stupid.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:08am On Mar 04, 2019
Kazikazi:
The porridge you drunk this morning was 'heavy'. You just dont know how the story started.I don't compare Tz with Ghana.I compare with ke.If Ghana is ahead of ke then I can do comparison

You're scared of comparing Ghana to shitty Tz because you know Ghana will give Tz a whopping.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:10am On Mar 04, 2019
tylann:
Did you take porridge and githeri this morning
Why are you mentioning them every time
I guess why you mind is slow

Because his head is full of porridge for brain.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:12am On Mar 04, 2019
By informal I mean as compared to bus companies that own several fleets - the matatus are just free for all - you import 14 seater van from Japan - have it modified (add extra seats, colour, music, etc) and be on the road. We have now attempted to formalize them - so now they must belong to cooperative union - who are given the route - they also have to stick to one route - have some yellow colour indicating how many passengers, routes - drivers and conductors also need to have their uniform and badges (their pictures) hanged, have dustbin and the whole shebang - seat belts.They also must have all the insurances needed.

But enforcement is a challenge. Certainly help now that a sacco get penalized...so they try to reign on the rogoue drivers and matatus.



XhosaNostra:


Wow, I just checked it online. Some are really creative & eye-catching. Beautiful.

I understand you say it's an informal transportation system, how are the drivers with commuters in general? Here we also have a similar thing, but we have an option between formal & informal as far public transport goes. The thing with "informal" drivers is, they're very rude. No communication skills whatsoever. Some aren't even afraid to curse you out or beat you up. I think they need formal training in how to deal with people. Because they're almost always angry for no reason.

Btw, matatu means the same thing here, 3. We just spell it different "mathathu".
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:12am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:


Is it a Kenyan thing to have colourful taxis/minibuses? Because it's not the 1st time I'm seeing bright-coloured taxis. I think Tayser posted some a while back.

Yeah, that's Kenyan culture.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:12am On Mar 04, 2019
tylann:

Yes they are majorleague dcks
Very rowdy and they smoke alot of weed

Terrorists on wheels, high on weed grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:14am On Mar 04, 2019
Kazikazi:
Yah, we feed them

Feed yourselves first.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:16am On Mar 04, 2019
rvp2018:
By informal I mean as compared to bus companies that own several fleets - the matatus are just free for all - you import 14 seater van from Japan - have it modified (add extra seats, colour, music, etc) and be on the road. We have now attempted to formalize them - so now they must belong to cooperative union - who are given the route - they also have to stick to one route - have some yellow colour indicating how many passengers, routes - drivers and conductors also need to have their uniform and badges (their pictures) hanged, have dustbin and the whole shebang - seat belts.They also must have all the insurances needed.

But enforcement is a challenge. Certainly help now that a sacco get penalized...so they try to reign on the rogoue drivers and matatus.




I understood what you meant @ bolded. It's exactly the same here. They belong to taxi associations & unions, but it's still considered a less formal mode of transport.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:17am On Mar 04, 2019
Mombasa is a top top destination incomparable to the mediocre Nigerian cities.It's about 33 degrees today,since I'm off-I'll be going down to the beach!
rvp2018:
Mombasa..better than Abuja.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:19am On Mar 04, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Yeah, that's Kenyan culture.

Nice. Do they get a lot of female attention? grin They seem to ooze sex appeal for some women lol.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:22am On Mar 04, 2019
They had really good education in 60s-80s - and when the military took over - that naturally altered the equation - the bright folks bolted out - a few attempted to return - and they found the situation even worse - and many now leave never to comeback. That brain drain, the militarization of politics and tribal-religious divide makes their politics dysfunctional.

But I still think that is MAIN bottleneck is oil. The Nigerian government in all levels is assured and comfortable with oil money - it doesn't bother to do anything serious.

When oil prices collapse - they get a little serious like now - and start thinking diversification - but if oil rises again to 140 dollars a barrel - all that is forgotten - and binge spending starts.

Nigeria need to diversify it's economy. Gov need to rebuild the collapse infrastructure(water,electricity, roads, railways and ports), they need to invest in education esp in Northern Nigeria and need to improve the ease of doing business - both at micro and macro- level.

Kenya is very corrupt but our corruption is not debilitating. Kenya ease of doing business is now 3rd best in Africa - and we rank with Nigeria in corruption - gov knows its get it's money (taxes) from the private sector - so they make sure the private sector is happy - it's their oil well.

Nigeria political class doesn't care about anything except the oil price or anybody standing btw Nigeria crude oil and Shells of this world who need to ship and sell it.


vaxx:
NIGERIA problem is simple. failed educational system and massive chunks of illiterate must be eradicated

There are many literate and brilliant Nigerians . . . which do not live in Nigeria. They’re in Britain, US, china, Ukraine, Australia, infact some are even in Ghana There are Also many literate and brilliant Nigerians in Nigeria, but no one listens to them. they’re actually seen as crazy people. The large percentage of the population is either die-hard rural, or half-baked. they drool over musicians and entertainers day and night while their country falls apart. they steal ballot boxes, act as thugs for these corrupt politicians. they fall for bags of rice, beans, and dried fish distributed to them during electron periods. and then vote for the wrong person.




Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:27am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:


Nice. Do they get a lot of female attention? grin They seem to ooze sex appeal for some women lol.

The buses? Of course they do. Ladies love them. Unfortunately, they also have a bad reputation of flouting traffic rules - the rule of the thumb is, the more pimped up and impressive a bus is (we call them matatu here), the more arrogant, loud and disrespectful the crew that runs it is.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:27am On Mar 04, 2019
Nairobi - Africa biggest ferry wheel in one of largest mall - Two Rivers. And recently completed One Africa tower.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:31am On Mar 04, 2019
Kazikazi:
a githeri man is talking!
Do u know why I wanted him to post them here?
it seems you are looking for comparism. And to the nut head comparing Abuja airport to kotoka.


now have nire rime to compare. let's see if i will be posting below is obtainable in any of curbit airport .


kotoka airport....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:33am On Mar 04, 2019
NairobiWalker:


The buses? Of course they do. Ladies love them. Unfortunately, they also have a bad reputation of flouting traffic rules - the rule of the thumb is, the more pimped up and impressive a bus is (we call them matatu here), the more arrogant, loud and disrespectful the crew that runs it is.

I meant the drivers lol. I personally have never met a taxi driver that didn't have women falling all over him. Women find them irresistible for some reason. Must be the wild antics.

Anyway, I understand what you mean. The matatu projects an image for them. A status symbol of sorts.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:33am On Mar 04, 2019
kazikazi ..


kotoka aiport continue

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:33am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:


I meant the drivers lol. I personally have never met a taxi driver that didn't have women falling all over him. Women find them irresistible for some reason. Must be the wild antics.

Anyway, I understand what you mean. The matatu projects an image for them. A status symbol of sorts.

grin grin grin grin

Why do women love these guys so much though?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:36am On Mar 04, 2019
kazikazi


still on the same kotoka airport

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:36am On Mar 04, 2019
vaxx:
it seems you are looking for comparism. And to the nut head comparing Abuja airport to kotoka.


now have nire rime to compare. let's see if i will be posting below is obtainable in any of curbit airport .


kotoka airport....

He's always like that. When you see him playing friendly, he's just trying to win allies but deep inside he is a hateful insecure man. He even doesn't like the Nigerians he bootlicks here. He once opened a fake account as a South African where he kept insulting Kenyans and Nigerians until he exposed himself by accidentally posting in Swahili. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:36am On Mar 04, 2019
Now that is a modern Airport.Ghana is pretty impressive - you can see the infrastructure is clearly getting there. Tanzania KaziKazi have cattle house for their international airports.
vaxx:
kazikazi ..


kotoka aiport continue
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:37am On Mar 04, 2019
NairobiWalker:


grin grin grin grin

Why do women love these guys so much though?

Money? Or the "I'm bad to the bone" demeanor. Those are the only two aphrodisiacs I can think of.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:38am On Mar 04, 2019
vaxx:
kazikazi


still on the same kotoka airport

Wow! This is impressive. I wish Mombasa builds one like this.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:40am On Mar 04, 2019
XhosaNostra:


Money? Or the "I'm bad to the bone" demeanor. Those are the only two aphrodisiacs I can think of.

It can't be money - those guys aren't rich. Maybe the bad boy image - plus, they tend to spend all the money they make mainly on partying and women. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 10:43am On Mar 04, 2019
NairobiWalker:


It can't be money - those guys aren't rich. Maybe the bad boy image - plus, they tend to spend all the money they make mainly on partying and women. grin grin grin

Yes, they aren't rich but they make money everyday & are almost never broke. That is the panty dropper right there grin

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