Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,207,532 members, 7,999,354 topics. Date: Monday, 11 November 2024 at 04:49 AM

If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis - Religion (2) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis (3193 Views)

God Only Wants You To Be Holy, Healthy And Highly Successful - Rev Tony Akinyemi / When Did The Old Covenant End? - Paul Ellis / How To Unlock God's Call On Your Life (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 12:55pm On Apr 02, 2017
..
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 10:33pm On Jun 15, 2017
night......
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 8:43am On Jun 16, 2017
morning
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by oaroloye(m): 5:57pm On Jun 16, 2017
SHALOM!

jiggaz:
Here’s a question grace preachers hear a lot: “If we are already holy, then why does God call us to be holy?” Answer: He’s calling us to be who we truly are. He is saying, “You are my sanctified children. Act like it. Be who I made you to be.”

As D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones once said:

Holiness is not something we are called upon to do in order that we may become something; it is something we are to do because of what we already are…

Oyinbo Preachers create confusion by "putting the cart before the horse."

We were not even born when The Bible was published, so why do we presume that It is talking to us?

“Paul, I’m still confused. It seems there are a lot of scriptures exhorting us to become holy. How do we reconcile those with other scriptures that say that we are already holy?” The best answer I’ve heard comes from Bill Gillham, who compares Christians to oak trees:

Are Christians a truly holy people, or are we trying to become a holy people?… As an oak sapling grows, it doesn’t get “oakier.” Oak is oak. It simply matures into what it is, a full-grown oak tree.

You don’t become an oak tree by acting like an oak tree; nor do you become holy by acting holy. Jesus makes you holy. Your part is to mature into what He has already made you. This takes time, but just as a baby never becomes more human as it grows, you will never become more holy as you mature. You simply grow into who God has already made you to be. Here’s Bill Gillham again:

There are NO Scriptures that say that "WE" are "ALREADY HOLY!"

. PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth dissembleth with his lips,
and layeth up deceit within him;
25. When he speaketh fair, believe him not:
for there are seven abominations in his heart.
26. Whose hatred is covered by deceit,
his wickedness shall be shewed
before the whole Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.
28. A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it;
and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.


ONCE YOU ALLOW THEM TO FLATTER YOU WITH ATTRIBUTES THAT DO NOT BELONG TO YOU, YOU WILL BECOME CONFUSED, AND BE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE ANY MORE. Therefore, you will need them to furthermore explain to you how to read The Bible- which was written to ordinary people, not degree-wielding geniuses.

Needless to say, maturity doesn’t occur in one giant leap, but through a process: “But we all … are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory” (2 Corinthians 3:18). Notice it’s “from glory to glory,” not “from garbage to glory.” You are already holy in Christ … Just as an oak sapling does not get oakier as it matures, neither does a new creature in Christ get holier, more forgiven, more accepted, etc.

. LUKE 14:7-11.

7. And he put forth a Parable
to those which were bidden,
when he marked how
they chose out the Chief Rooms;
saying unto them.
8. "When thou art bidden
of any man to a wedding,
sit not down in The Highest Room;
lest a more honourable man than thou
be bidden of him;
9. "And he that bade thee and him
come and say to thee,


'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;'

and thou begin with shame
to take The Lowest Room.
10. "But when thou art bidden,
go and sit down in The Lowest Room;
that when he that bade thee cometh,
he may say unto thee,


'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:'

then shalt thou have worship
in the presence of them
that sit at meat with thee.
11. "For whosoever exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."


HAVING LIED ABOUT OUR STATUS, HE HAS TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER LIE IN ORDER TO EXPLAIN-AWAY THE DISCREPANCY IN PHENOMENA WHEN ONE FINDS ONESELF UNABLE TO BEAR FRUITS OF HOLINESS. The artificial Consideration "MATURITY" is added, to explain-away why one STILL SINS, having NO SELF-CONTROL.

Are people aware that BILLY GRAHAM- the ANTI-PENTECOSTAL, ANTI-DIVINE HEALING False Christian Minister has now ABANDONED all PRETENSE of Believing in The Gospel, having SAID WITH HIS MOUTH that "JESUS" IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4021609_gospelfailbillygrahampopejohnpaulii005_jpega25d08e2300b74632cc833613ff471e7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZWug3QAvs

AFTER YOU HAVE FOLLOWED THESE PEOPLE FOR ENOUGH DECADES, IT IS THEN THAT YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE NO FOUNDATION!

Critics of the modern grace message say we who preach it are opposed to holy living. Nothing could be further from the truth. What we are opposed to is the old habit of trying to make yourself holy by acting holy . You just can’t do it. The standard is too high. But the good news declares God makes us holy. He takes the shards of our broken lives and makes something beautiful, pleasing, sweet-smelling, and Christ-like.

The Oyinbos were susceptible to the PAULINE HERESY that you can become RIGHTEOUS simply by IMAGINING yourself to be Righteous.

They are such UTTERLY-WICKED people, that you can never trust their Christian Preachers to tell you The Truth.

. MATTHEW 18:1-14.

AT the same time came the Disciples unto Jesus,
saying,

"Who is the greatest
in the Kingdom of Heaven?"

2. And Jesus called a little child unto him,
and set him in the midst of them,
3. And said,

"Verily I say unto you,


'EXCEPT YE BE CONVERTED,
AND BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN,
YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'


4. "Whosoever therefore shall humble himself
as this little child,
the same is greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
5. "And whoso shall receive
one such little child in my Name
receiveth me.
6. "But whoso shall offend
one of these Little Ones
which believe in me,
it were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned
in the Depth of the Sea.

7. "Woe unto the World
because of offences!
For it must needs be
that offences come;
but woe to that man
by whom the offence cometh!
8. "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot
offend thee,
cut them off,
and cast them from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life halt or maimed,
rather than having
two hands or two feet
to be cast into Everlasting Fire.
9. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out,
and cast it from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into Life with one eye,
rather than having two eyes
to be cast into Hell Fire.
10. "Take heed that ye despise not
one of these little ones;
for I say unto you,


'THAT IN HEAVEN THEIR ANGELS
DO ALWAYS BEHOLD THE FACE
OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'


11. "For The Son of Man is come
to Save that which was lost.
12. "How think ye?
If a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13. And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,


'HE REJOICETH MORE OF THAT SHEEP,
THAN OF THE NINETY AND NINE
WHICH WENT NOT ASTRAY.'


14. "Even so it is not
The Will of your Father
Which is in Heaven,
that one of these little ones
should perish."


THE STANDARD TO ACHIEVE HOLINESS IS NOT TOO HIGH!

Only the UTTERLY-WICKED Oyinbos would want to SAY that- because they have never had any intention of paying the prices necessary to achieve Holiness. Namely, CUTTING OFF THE BODY PARTS INVOLVED IN THE SIN YOU SAY that you "cannot escape."

When you make the resolution to go through with the Surgery, your Mind will attain the Awareness-Level necessary to CONTROL THAT SIN, AND EXPEL IT. But only THIS level of SERIOUSNESS will succeed.

Now that we have a good understanding of why the Bible calls us to be holy, we can look at some of the NT scriptures on holiness:

We did NOT get any understanding of what "HOLINESS" means from YOU, sir!

To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints (Romans 1:7a, ESV). Be saintly because you are saints, as Paul says many times in his letter to the Romans.

WOW! What SHAMELESS TOASTING!

PAUL wants to say that HE SAW GOD, when he was calling the Roman Christians?

He was LYING, to BUY their RESPECT!

Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness (Romans 6:19b). Given that Christ has already sanctified us, a more accurate translation might be “unto holiness” as in, “Just as you used to live unto wickedness when you were wicked, live unto holiness now that you are holy.”

But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life (Romans 6:22). A better translation may be, “have fruit unto sanctification.” Holy fruit are reaped not manufactured. Like eternal life, fruit are gifts, not wages (John 3:16, 5:21).

This is what WEAK Christians would LIKE TO HEAR- but those who are ignorant would not know that PAUL HAS NO RIGHT to tell anyone that they have these attributes.


To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be His holy people … (1 Corinthians 1:2a). You are sanctified so act like it.

Given the undeniable carnality of the Corinthians- WHO WERE TAUGHT BY PAUL (HE SAID!) -it would be TOO OBVIOUS A LIE for Paul to PRETEND that they were HOLY- so he had to say that they were only "CALLED TO BE" HOLY.

Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity … (Colossians 3:5a). If you’re a butterfly, don’t act like a caterpillar. If you have been given a new nature, don’t act in accordance with your old one. That’s hypocrisy. It’s pretending to be someone you are not.

It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality … (1 Thessalonians 4:3). It is God’s will that you should be sanctified in your conduct, not because your salvation hinges on it, but your wellbeing does. Sin is destructive.

This LIAR believes that SINNERS are STILL "SAVED!"

. 1st JOHN 3:6.

6. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:
whosoever sinneth hath not seen him,
neither known him.


"HYPOCRISY" is Praying "THE SINNER'S PRAYER," which is UNSCRIPTURAL- then saying that you have been CATAPULTED into the CHIEF SEAT IN HEAVEN- just like that!

.   EPHESIANS 2:1-10.

AND you hath he quickened,
who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2. Wherein in time past ye walked
according to the Course of this World,
according to the Prince of the Power of the Air,
the spirit that now worketh
in the Children of Disobedience:
3. Among whom also we all had our Conversation
in times past in the Lusts of our Flesh,
fulfilling the desires of the Flesh and of the Mind;
and were by Nature the Children of Wrath,
even as others.

4. But God,
Who is Rich in Mercy,
for His great Love wherewith He loved us,
5. Even when we were dead in Sins,
hath quickened us together with Christ,
[by Grace ye are Saved;]
6. And hath raised us up together,
and made us sit together
in Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus:
7. That in the Ages to come
He might shew the exceeding Riches of His Grace
in His Kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8. For by Grace are ye Saved through Faith;
and that not of yourselves:
it is The Gift of God:
9. Not of Works,
lest any man should boast.
10. For we are His Workmanship,
created in Christ Jesus unto Good Works,
which God hath before ordained
that we should walk in them.


THESE ARE NOT THE WORDS OF GOD, BUT BLASPHEMY.

SALVATION is NOT a "GIFT."

God FORBADE reception of Gifts by HIS Servants:

. EXODUS 23:8.

8. "And thou shalt take no Gift:
for the gift blindeth the Wise,
and perverteth the words of the Righteous."


IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE IMAGINARY GIFTS THAT PAUL SHOWERS UPON THE GULLIBLE, CHRISTIANS WHO BELIEVE IN PAUL BLIND THEIR OWN EYES TO THE EVIL OF THEIR ACTIONS AND SITUATIONS, AND THEIR WORDS BECOME UTTERLY PERVERSE.

You have noticed the FAD of "FULL" GOSPEL Christians claiming to be "STRONG" when they are HORRIBLY SICK, AND WEAK, and that "IT IS WELL!" when they have ONE FOOT IN HELL, and the other foot on a SKATEBOARD?

THAT GOSPEL DOES NOT WORK- but they are SO DECEIVED that they will COVER FOR THEIR DECEIVERS!

Each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God (1 Thessalonians 4:4–5). You know who your Father is so don’t act like someone who doesn’t.

May God Himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through (1 Thessalonians 5:23a). Sanctification is God’s work, not yours. Just as His gift of salvation is something to work out in your life, so is His sanctification. You already have it, so enjoy it!

But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do (1 Peter 1:15). You are not holy because you act holy. You are holy because you are children of a holy Father. Indeed, you are a holy nation (1 Peter 2:9). Be who you truly are.

ARE YOU IN THE THESSALONÍKAN CHURCH?

Where is the sense in trying to pretend that you are their EQUAL?

Christians are NOT equal: there are SIX LEVELS OF SPIRITUALITY in the New Testament: NATURAL MAN, CARNAL BRETHREN, BABES-IN-CHRIST, LITTLE CHILDREN, YOUNG MEN, and FATHERS.

New Testament exhortations to live holy should not be read as a self-help guide to holiness. Rather, they are pictures of the wholesome, healthy life we get to enjoy as we allow Christ to express His holy life through us.

ANNND JUST LIKE THAT, he renders those exhortations MEANINGLESS, NULL, AND VOID!

New Testament exhortations to live holy are advertisements for the abundant life that is already ours in Christ.


https://escapetoreality.org/2014/08/22/be-holy/

It is NOT ours' if we have SINNED since we were so-called "BORN AGAIN."

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


. MATTHEW 13:19.

19. "When any one heareth The Word of The Kingdom,
and Understandeth it not, then cometh The Wicked One,
and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart.
This is he which received seed by the Way Side."


SATAN IMMEDIATELY REMOVES EVERYTHING WE GET FROM GOD, ONCE WE SIN.

REPENTANCE, no matter how DEEP, TEARFUL, nor SINCERE does NOT get it back.

It can take YEARS to get back what we hand over to Satan by Sinning.

ADAM lived for 930 YEARS, and did not get back what The Devil took from him in ONE DAY.

Don't let these Oyinbo Scum FOOL you!
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:23am On Jun 18, 2017
mnmn
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 1:06pm On Jun 18, 2017
bnbnbn
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by Janeyinspires(f): 2:51pm On Jun 18, 2017
jiggaz:
bnbnbn
j i g g a z
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 3:36pm On Jun 18, 2017
Janeyinspires:

j i g g a z
lol
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by Janeyinspires(f): 5:16pm On Jun 18, 2017
jiggaz:
lol
Lol,yeah.Puuuuuuuuuuush it.
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:09pm On Jun 18, 2017
Janeyinspires:

Lol,yeah.Puuuuuuuuuuush it.
yes oo... cheesy
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:04am On Jun 25, 2017
morning...
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 11:38am On Jul 02, 2017
grounded
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:29pm On Oct 09, 2018
Yes Lord
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:43pm On Oct 11, 2018
Now
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by Nobody: 8:05am On Oct 12, 2018
nice one
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 9:48pm On Oct 12, 2018
solite3:
nice one
thanks bro.
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:40am On Dec 30, 2018
Morning
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:57am On Jan 08, 2019
Morning.....
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by ochibuogwu5: 8:28am On Jan 08, 2019
THE POWER OF JESUS CHRIST GRACE:
As Jesus Christ speaks to us in his gospels/Scriptures, something precedes his truth to make us *understand, believe and compel us to use/act/obey* on his word AND THAT THING IS *GRACE*
The Grace of GOD does not just allow you hear the words of the sound gospel by *informing you* rather *it forcefully compels you to obey and practice righteousness with effortless input/ease*
Grace is what makes a Christian to willingly obey God's righteous standards from *within* without anybody in the *external telling you what to do and what not to do*

Any gospel that is not preceded by Grace will only *kill a man's soul* just like *hearing the law of Moses* and later leave him/her more *hardened in committing sin*
hence we need to always ask the Holy Spirit to fill his words that we study and preach with *his grace* so that we shall always be *compelled to obey* every instruction from the Holy Spirit for our lives *to the end* thus "the grace of GOD *teaches us* to live upright, Godly and self-controlled life in this generation(2019)..." {Titus 2:11-12}
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:45pm On Jan 08, 2019
Lord Jesus... The altogether lovely One...
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:45pm On Mar 04, 2019
Thank you Lord Jesus!!
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:10pm On Mar 05, 2019
Now
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 8:58pm On Jul 06, 2020
jiggaz:
Lord Jesus... The altogether lovely One...
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 11:27pm On Jul 06, 2020
jiggaz:
Now
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 5:12pm On Apr 30, 2021
Lord Jesus
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 10:14pm On Apr 30, 2021
Now
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 8:17am On May 02, 2021
Yeah
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 12:22pm On May 02, 2021
Yeeesss
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 11:29am On Dec 18, 2021
Yes Lord
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:49pm On Apr 21, 2023
Glory!!
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:49am On Apr 22, 2023
Look
Re: If We Are Holy, Why Does God Call Us To Be Holy? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 8:34am On Apr 30, 2023
Read up

(1) (2) (Reply)

Did Yahweh fail in his Promise To Abraham? / Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Insists Masturbation Is Not A Sin / Goliath's Skeleton Discovered In Jerusalem (with Pix).

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 52
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.