diadem10:


I won't even dabble with you on your nonsense about Griezman creativity. No one in his right sense would even argue that.

You're not armed with anything to disprove me anyway so you probably made a good choice

Lmaooooo. A player averaging 10 assists per season in all comps is not capable of being creative. Gospel according to diadem 10. Let me allow the rest of the thread laugh at your megedefegede!

A40:
You're not armed with anything to disprove me anyway so you probably made a good choice

Lmaooooo. A player averaging 10 assists per season in all comps is not capable of being creative. Gospel according to diadem 10. Let me allow the rest of the thread laugh at your megedefegede!

He's a SS closer to the goal. He's bound to make some passes to his lead no 9. That's the gospel truth. Even C.Ronaldo had his moment with his simple passes although he's a fantastic crosser also. Abeg, watch football with your eyes.

Can u guyz borrow us (barca) ur coach

Rashford had to wait three-and-a-half minutes to take his penalty, but thrashed it home nervelessly.

Now that's champions stuff...

diadem10:



We all saw the talent who couldn't even control ordinary ball yesterday. Never seen such an acclaimed talent who has such a poor bottom level. Wake me up when Lemar has such level of absolute shite.

While you're getting on that, go learn about the difference between a touchline winger and a forward. Can't waste my precious time having a discourse with someone who has a poor knowledge on football roles.

You're not even ashamed. These are the stats of someone you're claiming has talent. Mbappe's bottom level was still good enough to produce half of Lemar's assist numbers for the entire season

Touchline winger my a$$. Even if he was playing from the dressing room there is no excuse for producing such pathetic stats. You have already wasted your time defending an unproductive winger since last year. You might as well waste it some more! Chai you're not even ashamed! Do you know that since November that we began this argument Lemar has not scored or assisted

ucsquare:
Rashford had to wait three-and-a-half minutes to take his penalty, but thrashed it home nervelessly.

Now that's champions stuff...

That actually impressed me.

diadem10:


He's a SS closer to the goal. He's bound to make some passes to his lead no 9. That's the gospel truth. Even C.Ronaldo had his moment with his simple passes although he's a fantastic crosser also. Abeg, watch football with your eyes.

Story for the gods. The important thing is correcting that nonsensical narrative that Griezmann provides no creativity. You're showing a clear lack of understanding of what that statement even means

Abysmal display by McTominay? That's confusing. The guy was pretty impressive for me. He was extremely disciplined, level headed and diligent in his duties. For the first time, he was confident enough to thread some passes through defensive lines.

The fact that he has so far secured the trust of The Toxic One and President Ole is a testament in itself to the solidity he adds to the team. The gaffer refers to him as our new Fletcher and I think with much more hard work he can become just as good.

Just because some players have less flashy means of getting the job done does not necessarily mean they did poorly. Haba!

Form sales are still on for all wishing to enroll in MCTerminator FC. Always posited that you don't need 11 world class players to churn out world class performances; you also need gritty, energetic, disciplined work horses that are willing to run into the ground and through brick walls for the team.

A40:
You're not even ashamed. These are the stats of someone you're claiming has talent. Mbappe's bottom level was still good enough to produce half of Lemar's assist numbers for the entire season

Touchline winger my a$$. Even if he was playing from the dressing room there is no excuse for producing such pathetic stats. You have already wasted your time defending an unproductive winger since last year. You might as well waste it some more! Chai you're not even ashamed! Do you know that since November that we began this argument Lemar has not scored or assisted

Such stats isn't pathetic for a touchline winger in a defensive team which is built around a non creative SS. That's the cold fact.

I could count how many times Mbappe fell flat on the floor under no pressure at all in yesterday match. Many times his first touch turned the ball over under no pressure. Is that your worldie?

I didn't even intend to go this route of comparing Lemar with Mbappe except for their similar roles at the world cup until you started spewing nonsense and I came to this conclusion which is, it's an insult to Lemar to even compare him to Mbappe cos Lemar doesn't have such average touch to begin with. You were the one who brought out Mbappe's can of worms, not me. Now you can feed on it.

airmark:


That actually impressed me.

Don't even know the parishian dat wanted to go over and distract him, only to be stopped by Dalot and Co..

loving the team spirit...

A40:
Story for the gods. The important thing is correcting that nonsensical narrative that Griezmann provides no creativity. You're showing a clear lack of understanding of what that statement even means

Griezman isn't creative. That's the gospel truth. Making a simple pass which luckily led to a goal isn't an act of creativity. Let that sink in.

diadem10:


Griezman isn't creative. That's the gospel truth. Making a simple pass which luckily led to a goal isn't an act of creativity. Let that sink in.

Lmaooooo John Stockton couldn't assist you. Griezmann is not creative but dropping double figure assists the last 3 seasons. Spare me your nonsense

Show me proof of Lemar's creativity and stop inundating the thread with your blasphemy

A40:
Lmaooooo John Stockton couldn't assist you. Griezmann is not creative but dropping double figure assists the last 3 seasons. Spare me your nonsense

Show me proof of Lemar's creativity and stop inundating the thread with your blasphemy

Prove of Lemar creativity was the reason Atletico (who are actually penny pincher) signed him for 70 mill.

If you had watched Monaco, you would realise Lemar was the source of their creativity whereas Mbappe and Falcao were just goal scorers. There's a reason he was called to the France national team despite being a young player who wasn't even known outside the ligue 1 at that time.

Atletico coach is also happy with Lemar. So keep your stat to your chest.

diadem10:



Such stats isn't pathetic for a touchline winger in a defensive team which is built around a non creative SS. That's the cold fact.

I could count how many times Mbappe fell flat on the floor under no pressure at all in yesterday match. Many times his first touch turned the ball over under no pressure. Is that your worldie?

I didn't even intend to go this route of comparing Lemar with Mbappe except for their similar roles at the world cup until you started spewing nonsense and I came to this conclusion which is, it's an insult to Lemar to even compare him to Mbappe cos Lemar doesn't have such average touch to begin with. You were the one who brought out Mbappe's can of worms, not me. Now you can feed on it.

You're not even ashamed that your MCM has not evolved his game beyond playing a borderline obsolete role. Even Antonio Valencia at a rubbish team like Wigan was putting up better stats.

The non creative SS is dropping 10 assists and dropping 2 key passes per game. While the creative Touchline winger is averaging less than 2 dribbles per game and providing 2 assists in 32 hours of football. Yeye dey really smell

It's an insult to compare Mbappe to a Lemar with 1 assist every 15 hours of football. If Lemar's exceptional touch cannot lead to goals or assists for his team then they might as well flog him to China.

Lol see who is talking about can of worms? Your MCM has not scored or assisted since last year. We are already in March. Afrodoc2 should prescribe albendazole for you before your intestines shut down

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elampiro:


Young played there not for 90 minutes. The time he played there, he brought calmness to the entire back line which was torn apart and apart and apart every minute.

Brought what calmness? The entrance of Dalot who is more attacking and fearless in his approach meant that Bernat had to curtail his rampaging runs thus Young was well protected.
Shaw's wing was impenetrable because Shaw stood up to whatever was thrown at him and Rashford defended from the RWF limiting any runs from Kehrer.
It's not rocket science so I don't know why you are still on this, Young on his part was also good especially with those clearances but he wasn't entirely responsible for our improved defensive responsibility rather, a change of personnel and roles. Dalot did better than Young at RW while Young showed more awareness than Bailly.

diadem10:


Prove of Lemar creativity was the reason Atletico (who are actually penny pincher) signed him for 70 mill.

If you had watched Monaco, you would realise Lemar was the source of their creativity whereas Mbappe and Falcao were just goal scorers. There's a reason he was called to the France national team when he was just a young player who wasn't even known outside the ligue 1.

Atletico coach is also happy with Lemar. So keep your stat to your chest.

Lmaooo. A decision Atletico are probably regretting now. I doubt they would pay that much for a 3 goals 2 assists poor man's Antonio Valencia

Mbappe had 8 assists in their title winning season. Stop misinforming the public with this false narrative that Mbappe was just a scorer. Show some scruples and decorum

Simeone has no choice. Are you shittin me? How do you bench a player you bought for €70m in his first season without looking like a complete asshat

The same Simeone that paid €52m for a washed Diego Costa? Please don't make it sound like Atletico are some perfect transfer bargain hunters. They are prone to the odd goof! Or you have forgotten Jackson Martinez?

neezar:

Did you watch that moment Pogbooom crashed their interview??

Yh. Pogba na weyrey

Debroslink:


Lemme speak the truth, I'm now beginning to respect man utd the same way I respected them during Ferguson's era.

If I survive Lyon next week, I don't pray to meet you guys next anymore.

I wouldn't want us to meet Barca either. Go and be someone else's problem.

Lana1:
Yh. Pogba na weyrey

I swear

A40:
Lmaooo. A decision Atletico are probably regretting now. I doubt they would pay that much for a 3 goals 2 assists poor man's Antonio Valencia

Mbappe had 8 assists in their title winning season. Stop misinforming the public with this false narrative that Mbappe was just a scorer. Show some scruples and decorum

Simeone has no choice. Are you shittin me? How do you bench a player you bought for €70m in his first season without looking like a complete asshat

The same Simeone that paid €52m for a washed Diego Costa? Please don't make it sound like Atletico are some perfect transfer bargain hunters. They are prone to the odd goof! Or you have forgotten Jackson Martinez?

Lmao. Jackson Martinez was signed by his agent to Atletico. Same agent is funding Wolves team. Same agent made Falcao deal at Atletico. You need to get your fact.


Simeone knows that Lemar has done well so far with the style Atletico seems to employ. If we were to put Mbappe in a defensive team that had Griezman as the main man, he would be benched. This was a player that got benched last season by PSG coach after so much shite display by him despite playing in a world-class team of so many quality players spoon-feeding him at PSG. What would he have done if there was lesser space for him to operate in a defensive team such as Atletico.

Atletico's coach knows this which is highlighted by the fact that they always go for technician to man their frontline because of how narrow the team often operate. Technician that control the ball in tight space without having to fall flat on their face everytime like Mbappe. Heck, They once had the likes of Aguero, Torres, Griezman, Falcao in that team. Even Costa has a better touch than Mbappe when he was operating as SS for Atletico before his move to Chelsea. Shame his return coincided with Griezman who had already replaced him in his role.

Mbappe is full of shite. Wake me up when Mbappe can control a ball under pressure. Can he even do that under no pressure?

UEFA should just respect themselves and give us Porto.

They can give City v Barca n Tot v Atletico.

larride:
UEFA should just respect themselves and give us Porto.

They can give City v Barca n Tot v Atletico.

U that wanted us to win PSG but not qualify.
U don already dey plot as we fit reach semi-final.

Winning is a good thing o.

A40:
You're not even ashamed that your MCM has not evolved his game beyond playing a borderline obsolete role. Even Antonio Valencia at a rubbish team like Wigan was putting up better stats.

The non creative SS is dropping 10 assists and dropping 2 key passes per game. While the creative Touchline winger is averaging less than 2 dribbles per game and providing 2 assists in 32 hours of football. Yeye dey really smell

It's an insult to compare Mbappe to a Lemar with 1 assist every 15 hours of football. If Lemar's exceptional touch cannot lead to goals or assists for his team then they might as well flog him to China.

Lol see who is talking about can of worms? Your MCM has not scored or assisted since last year. We are already in March. Afrodoc2 should prescribe albendazole for you before your intestines shut down

Lmao. Even if you plaster all the statistics in the world on your eyes, it doesn't negate the fact that there's nothing creative about Griezman. He's Atletico main man who touches the ball in the final third more than any other atletico's final third player and plays closer to the goal than anyone else except the front man. He's bound to feed on plenty of rebounds. That doesn't mean he's creative. Lemar doesn't see the ball as much nor play close to the goal yet he does his job of taking on defenders and putting in Crosses into the opposition boxes and doesn't fall on his ass like Mbappe in every crucial moment.

Wake me up when Mbappe isn't falling on his ass under no pressure at all.

Lana1:
U that wanted us to win PSG but not qualify.
U don already dey plot as we fit reach semi-final.

Winning is a good thing o.

Abi na. I too scream yesterday, he remain small my landlord go come return my rent and sent me packing

We need luck during the draws abeg, make he no be like that useless FA cup that we draw big team back to back.

elampiro:


When last was this? That was the beginning of the season when Shaw didn't know his left from his right.

Shaw was our stand out player beginning of season biko. Player of the month consecutively bfre his form dropped a little and he picked up again

diadem10:


Lmao. Even if you plaster all the statistics in the world on your eyes, it doesn't negate the fact that there's nothing creative about Griezman. He's Atletico main man who touches the ball in the final third more than any other atletico's final third player and plays closer to the goal than anyone else except the front man. He's bound to feed on plenty of rebounds. That doesn't mean he's creative. Lemar doesn't see the ball as much nor play close to the goal yet he does his job of taking on defenders and putting in Crosses into the opposition boxes and doesn't fall on his ass like Mbappe in every crucial moment.

Wake me up when Mbappe isn't falling on his ass under no pressure at all.

I think your idea of creativity is arcane and needs updating. I will take statistics over the opinions of biased fanboys that cannot provide any credible alternative to counter my arguments.

When do you intend to prove that Griezmann merely feeds on rebounds. You have been typing endless lines of Dothraki, not one stat to counter my arguments

Griezmann creates more assists, more key passes. But he is not creative.

It's your poor man's Antonio Valencia with 1.1 key passes per game and 1.8 dribbles per game that's creative. Bahahahahaha!

Wake me up when Thomas Lemar scores or provides an assist in 2019

Even Jesus Navas a significantly older touchline winger like your mediocre MCM is putting up far better numbers. Stop hyping this unproductive skirt man where I dey

If José still managed United

“You ask me about tonight ... in Paris .... I ask you? How many injuries? I sink seventeen. I have to play the kids against. ... er er an EXCELLENT team. But you expect me to win? 0-2 first leg? 2? When I see 2? I see TWO champions league titles”
Respect, Respect, Respect!

ChristineC:
If José still managed United

Apt

A40:

I think your idea of creativity is arcane and needs updating. I will take statistics over the opinions of biased fanboys that cannot provide any credible alternative to counter my arguments.

When do you intend to prove that Griezmann merely feeds on rebounds. You have been typing endless lines of Dothraki, not one stat to counter my arguments

Griezmann creates more assists, more key passes. But he is not creative.

It's your poor man's Antonio Valencia with 1.1 key passes per game and 1.8 dribbles per game that's creative. Bahahahahaha!

Wake me up when Thomas Lemar scores or provides an assist in 2019

Even Jesus Navas a significantly older touchline winger like your mediocre MCM is putting up far better numbers. Stop hyping this unproductive skirt man where I dey

Jesus navas isn't playing for a defensive narrow Atletico team. Kapish?

He's playing in a team that has Banega who tends to whip in passes from the midfield to the wing in acre of space coupled with the open play of his team which gives him plenty of freedom, not a compact style of play.

One fact you are forgetting is, Lemar is at his best as a SS. Or playing as a winger in an open team that gives him lot of freedom. That's why he's compared to Mbappe in the first place. That he was able to give his best when shunhorned into a touchline wing role is a testament to his talent. That's why I said some people talent tends to be their downfall.

Some player can't even play out if their comfort zone, for example, Leroy Sane who's only at his best as a touchline winger can't even give "make a believe" performance as an inverted right winger for Germany national team because he's one dimensional player. Kudos to Lemar for not being a one dimensional player highlighted by the fact that he has been able to do well as a touchline winger despite not being his best role. I can bet he would be the one to eventually replace Griezman in that SS role if Griezman eventually leave. His performance for France confirmed it.

That all said, let me repeat my assertion which is there is nothing creative about Griezman. As for Mbappe, he needs to go learn the basics first and stop falling on his ass

diadem10:


Lmao. Jackson Martinez was signed by his agent to Atletico. Same agent is funding Wolves team. Same agent made Falcao deal at Atletico. You need to get your fact.

The same agent paid €52m for Diego Costa abi?

diadem10:

Simeone knows that Lemar has done well so far with the style Atletico seems to employ. If we were to put Mbappe in a defensive team that had Griezman as the main man, he would be benched. This was a player that got benched last season by PSG coach after so much shite display by him despite playing in a world-class team of so many quality players spoon-feeding him at PSG. What would he have done if there was lesser space for him to operate in a defensive team such as Atletico.

Simeone knows he can't bench Lemar without looking stupid. After squandering €70m the best you can do is to hope your record signing play himself into form.

Hahahaha jokes on you. Deschamps France are a defensive team with Griezmann as the main man. Mbappe is the X-Factor and difference maker. Great players force coaches to alter their tactics to accommodate them not the other way round. No wonder since Mbappe entered France's picture Thomas Lemar's seat on the bench comes with customized seatbelt

You're even contradicting yourself. With your analysis of Mbappe he is likelier to shine at a club like Atletico than a club like Barcelona

diadem10:

Atletico's coach knows this which is highlighted by the fact that they always go for technician to man their frontline because of how narrow the team often operate. Technician that control the ball in tight space without having to fall flat on their face everytime like Mbappe. Heck, They once had the likes of Aguero, Torres, Griezman, Falcao in that team. Even Costa has a better touch than Mbappe when he was operating as SS for Atletico before his move to Chelsea. Shame his return coincided with Griezman who had already replaced him in his role.

Mbappe is full of shite. Wake me up when Mbappe can control a ball under pressure. Can he even do that under no pressure?

Lmaooo when you're done with this Dothraki. Come and remind me of the last time Thomas Lemar scored a goal or provided an assist. Faux technician putting up Sergio Busquets numbers. Shior

diadem10:


Jesus navas isn't playing for a defensive narrow Atletico team. Kapish?

He's playing in a team that has Banega who tends to whip in passes from the midfield to the wing in acre of space coupled with the open play of his team which gives him plenty of freedom, not a compact style of play.

Dude nobody cares if he's playing in Remo Stars. I am showing you the numbers of a touchline winger who is waaaaay past his prime to negate your nonsense argument.

A compact style of play is not a valid excuse for such historic lack of productivity! A winger who is not scoring, not assisting and not creating chances! Just occupying space

diadem10:

One fact you are forgetting is, Lemar is at his best as a SS. Or playing as a winger in an open team that gives him lot of freedom. That's why he's compared to Mbappe in the first place. That he was able to give his best when shunhorned into a touchline wing role is a testament to his talent. That's why I said some people talent tends to be their downfall.

He's a mediocre SS. That is why not two but 3 different managers have felt it necessary to move him out of his preferred position like you claim. Intelligent managers know players with limited ceilings and shunt them elsewhere to complete the squad. Your MCM is just a John O'Shea with French passport. Don't be surprised when Simeone turns him to a Left back and you have to come here to tell us about his defensive qualities

diadem10:

Some player can't even play out if their comfort zone, for example, Leroy Sane who's only at his best as a touchline winger can't even give "make a believe" performance as an inverted right winger for Germany national team because he's one dimensional player. Kudos to Lemar for not being a one dimensional player highlighted by the fact that he has been able to do well as a touchline winger despite not being his best role. I can bet he would be the one to eventually replace Griezman in that SS role if Griezman eventually leave. His performance for France confirmed it.

Löw's inability to get the best out of Sane is entirely on him. If you insist on not playing to a player's strengths tactically and positionally then you should bear some responsibility. It's not coincidental that Germany could not get out of a group with Mexico, Korea and Sweden

E say na kudos. Thomas Lemar is a runaway candidate for La Liga flop of the season with his 1 goal and 1 assist Sergio Busquets numbers.

I can bet you Lemar will never play a prominent role for the French national team. He's a mediocre player and his trajectory screams Chinese Super League in the next few years

diadem10:

That all said, let me repeat my assertion which is there is nothing creative about Griezman. As for Mbappe, he needs to go learn the basics first and stop falling on his ass

The numbers and every other creativity metric make a mockery of your statement. Try again