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Re: Absence Of Evidence by UyiIredia(m): 1:51am On Mar 09, 2019 |
Dhumancanvas: The problem I find with atheists is an inability to differentiate between spiritual/mental things as immaterial and the physical world and that leads to their main misunderstanding of the idea of God. 1 Like |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by tintingz(m): 3:56am On Mar 09, 2019 |
Holumhidey:The Jedi created the planet Earth and Krypton but Brainiac destroyed Krypton tho, I think he's coming for Earth. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by MuttleyLaff: 4:33am On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia: Akin1212:"...Pay attention to what you're listening to! [Knowledge] will be measured out to you by the measure [of attention] you give. This is the way knowledge increases" - Mark 4:24 What is man? Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul Man is made up of Body, Soul (i.e. uses the heart as an outlet) and Spirit. The Soul has the body and spirit on each opposite sides of it Mind you, the Soul is the most important existence of Man and that is why the battle is and always has been about and/or over the Soul. All attack is ultimately targeted at the Soul The Body has 5 faculties of senses, which are, to see via the eyes, hear via the ears, feel via applicable part of the body, smell via the nose and taste via the mouth The Soul has faculties that comprises of the Mind (i.e. conscious and sub conscious) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions The Spirit has faculties that comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition Now, the Soul is the first medium key component of Man created by God and Man is tickled, accessed and brought to existence and life through this Soul by way of the body and spirit, where the Soul, in effective, is the mediator between the body and spirit. Further information than this will amount to information overload Akin1212:God cannot be proven to exist based on your laid down self conceited terms 1 Like |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by GoodMuyis(m): 7:14am On Mar 09, 2019 |
[s] Akin1212:[/s] Trash until you answer my question. -peace |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by hopefulLandlord: 7:41am On Mar 09, 2019 |
GoodMuyis:Which question is that bro? too busy to look for it |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by grad2012(f): 8:04am On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia:Uyilredia how have you been? Happy to see you OK. ![]() |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by UyiIredia(m): 9:58am On Mar 09, 2019 |
grad2012: Hmmn! I hope one of these days before I leave Lagos I will see you again. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by grad2012(f): 10:02am On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia:Uyi why are you leaving are you like done? what happened? Uyi |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by UyiIredia(m): 10:06am On Mar 09, 2019 |
grad2012: Will talk later not here but my no is .... if you want to call. 1 Like |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by tintingz(m): 10:24am On Mar 09, 2019 |
OpenYourEyes1:Yes please if possible. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by tintingz(m): 10:26am On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia:My goodness. ![]() |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by UyiIredia(m): 10:30am On Mar 09, 2019 |
tintingz: What's the problem? |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by TV01(m): 1:22pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
Akin1212:No I did not. I merely quoted what the Bible - which you continually disparage - says about you. Akin1212:This is both tired and lame. Your OP was clear - if somewhat clumsily written Akin1212:It is absolutely the point. The scriptures where written thousands of years ago by a sophisticated and highly intelligent people, who were also deeply spiritual and walked with God. You erected a strawman claiming such adherents were illiterate cavemen. I hope you are suitably humbled - which is the whole point ![]() Akin1212:This I did in my OP. Which was clear to any whose eyes are not blinded by pride, prejudice and a vaulting opinion of his own knowledge & prowess Akin1212:As above. Akin1212:As above Akin1212:As I noted, this is besides the point. Humans are able to conceptualise or interprete concepts and, are able to discover concepts independent of them having previously existed or not. Akin1212:Yours is a crying shame. Have a reflective weekend ![]() TV Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by Dhumancanvas: 5:27pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia:Hmmm. I know the difference. I don't think there is a difference between spiritual and mental tho. In other words your so called spiritual world is really all in your mind. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by UyiIredia(m): 5:31pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
Dhumancanvas: Well then let's leave spiritual and focus on the mental. It's still the same ish. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by grad2012(f): 8:45pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia:Uyi. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by grad2012(f): 9:25pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
UyiIredia:Uyi you der send it to my mail. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by Nobody: 9:23pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
IAmSabrina:God can only exist as a lunatic, period. 1 Like |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by theoriginalgood: 6:30am On Mar 11, 2019 |
Is it secretly a joke when someone asks whether there’s God? For a random example, which human eyes even know what planet pluto looks like? Is humanity the force behind creation? You know that the wages of sin is death and ALL humans die someday. Evidence that humans are evil sinners. Only God is good, that’s why there’s all this confusion. https://www.nairaland.com/5057182/reasonable-evidence-gods-existence |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by Akin1212(m): 1:35am On Mar 18, 2019 |
TV01: Lol, go and sleep sheeple, since you don't have any objective evidence for that which you claim. |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by Akin1212(m): 1:37am On Mar 18, 2019 |
theoriginalgood: Principle of presupposition, what is creation? Calling everything creation is the beginning of your baloneys. What makes everything that exist creations? |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by Akin1212(m): 2:07am On Mar 18, 2019 |
GoodMuyis: Lol, why do you all follow the same path? Perhaps, because you are all sheeple? What is the creation of heaven and earth? Do you even have an objective evidence that heaven exists or that earth was created? How can creation which you cannot even show evidence that it happened be the evidence of your imaginary friend? Before we can agree that there was creation, you have to show the evidence of the creator. Else, it's not creation. I want to believe that you think deeply too. If true, then answer this. Which comes first, the creator or the creation? If you use your head well, your answer should be the creator. If the creator comes first, then we must know or see the creator before we can call the observed objects creation. In the absence of a creator, we cannot call observed objects creations. Do you get that? If Isaac Newton was more of a theologian than a scientist, why bring him into this matter? I am more interested in science than theology. 1 Like |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by RandomGuy48: 3:40am On Mar 18, 2019 |
Akin1212:Generally speaking, a better place to get an answer to that question would be from books or sites specifically dedicated to answering those questions rather than an Internet message board. Still, if we're talking about evidence for a God of any kind, there's always the classics, like the Kalam Cosmological Argument or Aquinas's Five Ways. More recently there have been arguments concerning irreducible complexity, i.e. that things couldn't have evolved naturally because they're too complex to have done so, but I feel those arguments have a number of flaws. At any rate, I find these sorts of "general" arguments for the existence of a God (or gods) are not particularly useful because they give no characteristics of God. So proofs for a particular religion are more useful. After all, if the religion is true, then its beliefs concerning God would be true as well, both proving a God (or gods, if the religion in question is polytheistic) and giving characteristics. In regards to Christianity, there are various things one could offer. The obvious one is to point to Jesus's miracles, particularly the Resurrection. The objection, of course, would be to ask why someone should trust the Bible, particularly the Gospels, on those matters, which is a thoroughly fair question. Unfortunately, it's also an extremely complicated subject (Mike Licona's "The Resurrection of Jesus: A New Historiographical Approach" clocks in at over 700 pages and still pares a lot of things down). But some more basic arguments on the subject can be found on these pages: http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/resurrection-evidence.htm http://www.tektonics.org/ntdocdef/gospdefhub.php (http://www.tektonics.org/nthub.html has more detail) |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by GoodMuyis(m): 1:42pm On Mar 18, 2019 |
[s] Akin1212:[/s] #trash #shitpost Whoever thought you how to discuss this way did a bad Job |
Re: Absence Of Evidence by Kobojunkie: 10:30pm On Mar 13, 2023 |
Akin1212:1. Why again can't God be a spirit? ![]() 2. Why ask humans for evidence of God though? For instance, I am a follower of Jesus Christ, and asking me for evidence of Jesus Christ amounts to asking me to force Jesus to go against His Word in order to appease you. Why would I have any desire to do that particular since Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear in His Gospel, from almost 2000 years ago, that no signs will be given to any person who asks for it? ![]() ... 38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law answered Jesus. They said, “Teacher, we want to see you do a miracle as a sign from God.”... 3 And in the morning, if the sky is dark and red, you say that it will be a rainy day. These are signs of the weather. You see these signs in the sky and know what they mean. In the same way, you see the things that are happening now. These are also signs, but you don’t know their meaning.... 11 The Pharisees came to Jesus and asked him questions. They wanted to test him. So they asked him to do a miracle as a sign from God.... 29 The crowd grew larger and larger. Jesus said, “The people who live today are evil. They ask for a miracle as a sign from God. But no miracle will be done to prove anything to them. The only sign will be the miracle that happened to Jonah.If you have ever in fact read the book for yourself, you would know this but I guess it is merely ok to create these threads that are pretty much timewasters than spend time actually reading through to get a good grasp of what is in fact written of GOd, right? ![]() |
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