Amberon11:
Here comes the biggest hypocrite in all of nairaland. Western kids wether male of female talk to their parents anyhow they like. I've seen little boys on Maury who actually beat their moms up. Never saw a female who hit their parents. So the male kids are even more guilty in that aspect.

Secondly, you are wrong on the divorce ration. Contrary to what you cited , 8 out 10 divorce cases are actually caused by the adultery on the part of the men and we all know that western women don't tolerate bullshittt.

Ugosample:

Women are women sha
Good and bad
Putting western women on pedestals is not the best.

TaminaliaCatapa:


Thanks bro, have you recorded obvious success from men who married from those countries (Africa Excluding Nigeria)....all awa uncle wey marry naija women, wey bring them here dey sweat for under snow

Divay22:

Lol
You took that serious?
I'll leave Nigeria but not now.

Oh.... Actually I am leaving for Niger Republic tomorrow, what do you think??

DanDeeBoss:
Oh.... Actually I am leaving for Niger Republic tomorrow, what do you think??

LUCAS99:


Moved to Cali?

Very Nice Place but Super Expensive to Live in...

Prefer Miami over Cali...

brenister10:



Ishilove don vex o. See what civilization has caused. But sincerely, the fact that you are a woman doesn't make you feel less or make you inferior to a man. The point is everything should be done in love and a woman must do whatever house chore willingly and not by compulsion. The Bible said women should submit themselves to their husbands while husband should love their wives.

If there is genuine love and respect in the home, there won't be much problem but with the mumu civilization we have now coming from the western world, genuine love and submission have aleady been flushed down the toilet.

cococandy:
Don’t You mean she took loans and went to school to better herself?

You always know the ignorant ones when they claim someone trained another adult in higher education in the USA. Especially someone who’s not earning above 6 figures.

Tuition in America is exorbitant. Most People use loans to go to school. When your naija uncle tells you he trained his wife in school, ask him to tell you the truth.

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NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Go get a village girl.

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Go get a village girl.

TaminaliaCatapa:
This has been worrisome abeg, I don’t like the idea of bringing any gf from Naija come marry, they mess up real bad.

The Naija girls wey dem born abroad sef, they ain’t any way different from foreigners wey go dey tell you to start sharing house chores 50:50 with dem. There is nothing bad if I do those chores in my own volition, but making it a duty for me is a no-no.

Reason why I cant marry white is obvious, the very immediate point I just made up there, some won’t even let you take your kids back to naija coz it’s shîthole

Please, if you are a
1. Naija married man in a foreign land
2. Didn’t marry here in naija but abroad

How did you get married and what type of woman is she.


Please we wanna learn

Ugosample:



Interesting

Countries advancing because of "patriarchy?"

I have never heard about that one before

Even tho the world in general is patriarchal, even western countries are, there are underdeveloped patriachal countries and developed ones

it has nothing to do with patriarchy

is Nigeria not patriachal to the bone?

WhY is it a shithole?

I often like your posts, and it's been a while I have seen you BUT I disagree on this one

That's why China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Hungary, India, et al are all advancing and becoming wealthy countries, but never abandoning their patriarchy.

Ugosample:


You have a deep seatee problem mehn

too bad

wetdick:


Amazing. Typing like dating a western woman is a status symbol. Lol.

It seems western women are so special that they dont shit piss or smell. If they are so special why is their men not marrying them? Why is their men all going to asia and eastern europe for women. Why is MGTOW very popular in western society?

HeliosHay:


Very interesting. I've noticed that too..any idea why that is so? the feminism wave is more prevalent in non-muslim cultures than in Muslim ones

Blyzz:
the worst. And when she become used to the society you rather can't control her.

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
So what gives? Which would u rather he choose? He should just marry someone who makes him happy... Simple.

Naija4lifeYank:
This is more than apt.
This will be my only post on Nairaland. I'm only posting so no man goes through what I went through.
I live in the US.
My marriage crashed when I came home to marry a Naija-based angel. I never planned to come home to marry. I trusted my friend's report of good behavior from his family member not knowing he knew it was all a ruse. It was a planned job.
My father died from medical complications and having lost my mom much earlier, I came home to bury him. The Naija-based lady knew I was now an orphan used all her wiles to pretend to love me. Pretended to be helping to fill the void left by my parents and I finally agreed to marry her.
I was earning well over $180,000 a year and had luxury home and luxury car.
She arrived and within 1 month, I knew I had made the mistake of my life.
She demanded a luxury SUV since I had one and I told her it didn't make any sense to have two gas-guzzlers in the home. She immediately went into a tantrum. This was someone not contributing anything to the home financially. I got her a brand new Honda Accord. She wasn't very satisfied.
She started buying clothes. Every weekend it was a bill of $600 for clothes. I told her that's not how we spend money in America, she kept going. Always complaining. That she didn't have enough clothes. She is Igbo, so I paid for all the wedding in Nigeria. her family probably contributed only her wedding dress.
So I was starting to think who is this clown that I married.
She got pregnant and then started threatening me with potentially divorce & Child support if I don't do things that make her happy.
One day I got back from work (4 months after wedding) and she had been entertaining another man in the home that I paid all the mortgage on. I knew this because somebody had used the ipad at home to view his Instagram and Facebook and forgot to sign out.
I confronted her and she denied it. She started taking calls from all manner of men from Nigeria, sometimes going to the bathroom to talk to them
Fast forward, one day she told me her cousin from Nigeria was coming to our city in Maryland and could he stay in our home. I found out that the guy was not her cousin really and shut it down. She started saying by US law the home belonged to her and her kids. I told her I had a baseball bat and if she had 10 heads, she should bring the "cousin" to come visit.
By the time she had our son, she had become a full-fledged monster. Refusing to cook, etc. I did most of the house work and had a cleaner come clean the house.
I divorced her shortly after. I had to start paying her child support until God came to my rescue and the Judge decided I was the better parent and I won custody of my son.
It was the worst experience of my life and I lost so much. Her family was in on the whole thing. I assume they were so greedy to want my home
Before anyone asks, I never cheated on her. or hit her.
She did everything those women do: she called the cops to the house during an argument. I was so worried she was going to lie about physical abuse that never happened. I lived in FEAR in my own home. NEVER going to that state of things again. I'm free now.

For those who say the wife took a loan for school, so how did you send her through school, most times you co-sponsor the loan for the wife using your credit
I'll never be married again (I'm still in my thirties) and NEVER marry a woman from Nigeria again.

Blyzz:
yes, happiness is the right word. When a man is happy, he does things with his freewill. But in my case, when my account balance okay, I do things freely and happily.

sharpwriter:


Those ones married goddess na... It's their choice... You know those kain ladies wey you go see, wey you go bow say Kai, na hottie be dis

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
So when your account is low, u become unhappy and moody?

LordAdam16:


First off, I'm not sure how you read this sentence of mine:



And somehow you interpreted it as "countries advancing because of 'patriarchy'."

Nation building requires a lot of moving pieces that have to interact in the right way for there to be advancements. I simply said they're advancing and becoming wealthy, but not abandoning their patriarchy. They have the choice to but they aren't.

That's why Russia jailed a feminist blogger for inciting hate against men. Egypt jailed a feminist for making an uncorroborated sexual assault claim against a taxi driver. These are countries advancing but sticking with their patriarchy. Women can vote, they can drive cars, they can even assume political office, but they have lines women can't cross.

And every day I find it harder to fault their choice. For example, I'm pro-choice. Women have a right to decide if they want to keep a baby or not. But I have a term limit--first trimester. However, there are pro-choice absolutists in the US pushing for women to have the right to abort newborns during birth or after birth. They're calling it after-birth abortion, when by any reasonable definition of it, it really is infanticide.

And this is not just alt-right propaganda. The governor of Virginia supported it after a female state legislator pushed the bill. That's what happens when you give women a meter.

And the funny part is that I'm antimoralist, can understand the logic behind their extreme calls, but even I know it's a cuckoo call.

That's what my point is about, not your misinterpretation of making it seem patriarchy is responsible for economic growth.

________


And even if I were to debate that sentiment, it certainly would be a lot clearer. Because even in most Asian matriarchal societies, men don't do domestic chores. The matriarch organizes women in her family for child rearing, house cleaning, and other traditional feminine roles in patriarchal societies.

Even among Bonobos, matriarchs and high-ranking females give their sons male privilege and in-fighting is just as prevalent as any ape society. Then among Chimpanzees, recent research has uncovered the nuance of the patriarchy and how alpha males aren't just outsized brute males who lord over submissive, voiceless females; but leaders who have to serve their troops, form changing alliances, provoke admiration, and continually convince the female clan that they have what it takes to lead.

This entire idea that patriarchy is a cancer that should be excised goes against the spirit of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. All of our sissified, docile cousins (from other human species in the homo genus to the ardipithecus) are extinct. Men told the womenfolk to stay back and raise kids while they hunted animals many times their size like the mammoth and after that regularly go on multi-year war campaigns, because women on average are terrible hunters and fighters.

I don't know how many feminists, like our residents cococandy and co, would relish the opportunity of going after a sabre-tooth tiger attacking the community with only stone tools. Whereas able men of fighting age would be rallied, much like the compulsory draft for males in the US, to go after a beast whose biting force can crack skulls like a popsicle.

Women did not enter the workplace in the US until there was a world war. With men giving their lives in the trenches, women had to join the war effort by taking jobs in industries. And this could only work out because the first and second industrial revolutions had eliminated a lot of manual work in favor of machines. Who designed and developed these machines? The patriarchy. Why? Because of the Patriarchy and for the Patriarchy?

Today, we've advanced so much and are now in the knowledge economy, heavily reducing the need for manual labor, and as such women can participate. And what thanks did the patriarchy get for that? Vilification.

Even then, fewer women choose to do the most necessary and the most dangerous jobs required for the advancement of human civilization. Instead of going into STEM, they rather want to go into gender studies. Rather than take construction, truck driving jobs, with high work-related mortality they instead want to take administrative jobs. Today, men account for 90+% of all workplace fatalities.

And the same men who have to go several miles underground to dig coal or work in oil rigs to source for the fuel that'd power the devices that make their lives easier somehow are the embodiments of toxic masculinity who they waste no time denigrating with the same inventions made by men and the patriarchy.

So while patriarchy is not solely responsible for the advancement of human society, it sure explains a lot. And by a lot, I mean over 300,000 years.

-Lord

needful:
@Cococandy, I choosed to mention you because u vividly understood the concept. I live in Canada and the truth is 70% of naija men needs brain resetting. A man will immigrate to Canada with his family, pushed the wife to go and do RN against her wish, he still wants the RN with about 3children and 12hrs shift to come back and serve his hands and foot. Is this not insane?, i dont really understand the basis upon which marriage is constituted. marriage especially Nigeria men. What I see in most of this naija men are selfishness,. Alot of peaceful families are divorcing because the man wants the wife to work full time, pay half of the Bill's and still serve him and the children. The moment you men understand that women are humans created by God as God created you people, marital issues will disappear.
To all this ones shouting my property this and that, which property do u even own, is it the one u mortgaged to pay for 25 to 30yrs? Or another one. I trained my wife in school, with whose money. Can any of you even train somebody in school single handedly without Govt loan? Mtcheww, confused Hypocrites.
And for the this olosho poster looking for a woman to enslave, continue and am sure u will find one when u are 75yrs old. Nonsense

sharpwriter:


Hmmmn... Should I say, once you are in abroad, you lose part of your conscience...?

lefulefu:
naturally any diasporan man who comes to naija to take a homebased wife with him back to abroad will naturally see to her needs if he enrolls her in college over there. Those diasporan guys wey no too whole and wey no go fit afford to carry a homebased wife back with them wetin dem dem do be say wen dem come back home to marry a homebased wife they insist she remains in nigeria while they may be sending her montly allawee( though sometimes such men insist their homebase wife remain in nigeria cos they might be married with kids overseas). Many of such ladies full benin and some even get lovers on code sef. The man can only visit on christmas and new year or maybe easter as well. The ones who pick their homebased wives with them back abroad always see to the wellbeing of such wives. Why do u think most diasporan men who wen they carry their wives back with them always insist they enroll for a medical programme when they are overseas with them .

TaminaliaCatapa:


The dentists only whites and Africans can afford, crack-headed low life black Americans can’t afford a plate of salad
Hahahahahahahaha mofo leeches

lefulefu:
na lie.. No be beauty dey make woman dey act arrogant or go say she refuse to cook or do any stuff. Na her mindset. Na d way her mom take raise her for house. I have seen ugly girls dat act as if dey are the world's most precious gift to a man and very beautiful ladies who are down to act. In short from my experience its the beautiful ladies who are more down to earth than than the ugly and plain ones. Say one mgbeke paint paint face and wear one mammy water wig and start to dey shake yansh in front of mirror does not make her beautiful

lefulefu:
all these ones u guys are saying ladies born and bred in nigeria are traditional my guy its not all dat are traditional. My neighbour here his wife is a born and bred bini lady. She does not cook or do any domestic stuff.its her husband who does the domestic stuff and they have a 12 yr old boy that helps the man. The lady no dey enter market as well. Some nigerian guys overseas who have never stepped their foot into africa and nigeria always have this fantasy dreams about african women. African ladies don wise up. Go to some naija homes and u will see dat na man dey cook inside d kitchen in some homes while d woman dey sitting or go dey polish her nails for balcony.

Boss13:


I think it has to do with the religion specifying women roles. I love equality but the feminist wave is now becoming hostile. More women are now ingesting testosterone either through movies, books or commercials. Someone was arguing against my suggestion. It’s my opinion and I have seen the Muslim abroad holding on to their traditional lives and conflicts in marriages are easily resolved. Also, you know your children would have some traditional values and not get carried away with the next new thing.

America is a toxic environment - anything goes as long as there is money to be made from it.

Meliaen:


You have still not answered his question, just talking around it. Mind you, the people who liked your comments are men like you with entitlement sense. Men with poor upbringing, who weren't trained to help their sisters and mothers with house chores.

HeliosHay:


Lmao...polish nail for balcony! for real? you've got to be kidding me lol