Raalsalghul:

I give to the ministry but the way these guys emphasizes it irritates me. As if they can't do without it.

BRO THEY CANT bleeping DO WITH OUT IT...WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY REACHED AGAINST REPENTANCE, ADULTERY, FURNICATION ETC?

Tocynone:
Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-26 is the truth

READ the entire DEUTERONOMY 12. Read DEUTERONOMY 13. Read The entire Deuteronomy 26. These people have scammed us for years. You'll also find out that you have to take care of your household First! Your male and female servants . You'll also find out that 4 Categories of people are ENTITLED TO BENEFIT FROM TITHING the Widows, Fatherless, foreigners e.g corpers, then the Levites[/b]
Pastors don scam us finish!!

Shelumiel:
I seriously disagree with this chap.Tithing is an old testament law , so why are these men taking us back to the old testament ? Did the apostles of old pay tithe and first fruit ? If a person wishes to give or make a donation , he must be led by the Spirit of God; he must be convince by God to make that donation , not compelled because some clown somewhere , sees it as a means of making a good money .

don't mind the religious thief

if tithing is a must for Christians, how about the sacrifices of animals unto heavens for the atonement of sins?

Useless religious scammers preaching tithing from their stomach

OpenYourEyes1:


Heaven is not for stingy people bro.
Always try to give a minimum of 10 percent to GOD ALMIGHTY. Parts of your wealth must go to the poor also

Abraham actually was the first man that paid tithe to king Salem,but Christ ransom gift has made it unnecessary for Christian to abide such law.This mean that burnt or animal sacrifice/offering(tithe) is now outdated.
what God actually needs from us is nothing but LOVE.

if you want to GIVE to support the work of God and help the poor, it must surely comes from your HEART.

Tocynone:
Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-26 is the truth

Deuteronomy: 14. 28. At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: -

Tocynone:
Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-26 is the truth

This Bible verses you quote is strong,i need to see my pastor

Tithe collector.

OpenYourEyes1:


The Apostles paid more than tithe. They sold their properties and use the money for GOD's work.

Always give to GOD what belongs to GOD.

A good church uses your tithes for evangelism, helping the congregation and . not for pastor's enrichment

And building schools that where school fees are set so high that majority of the tithers can not afford.
Meanwhile, the older pastors and reverends attended free schools owned by churches established and ran by the Whites.

WoLe, you be oLe. Thief!

Christians have no business paying tithe!

We are to give offerings freely in love inspired by the Holy Spirit and as the need arises in Church and to individuals notably the poor, the needy and the oppressed of the land but particularly in the Church.

That's the Bible according to the New Testament.

He said this levite has paid tithe in Abraham. I don’t like complication. That simply means through the blood, genetically levite has done that, though he wasn’t born then. We are the modern day Leviticle priest.

OpenYourEyes1:


Jesus never paid tithe? Any scriptural reference?

Jesus and his apostles most likely paid tithe. Those things were never recorded for obvious reasons.

You and your pastor are criminals...

Shanana1:

Boss, Old testament is part of the bible..why haven't you rip out the old testament from it? When God commanded that we observe this things it means we should abide by it..Though tithing is not a criteria for making heaven but means to challenge God for blessings..Read Malachi 3vs 9-12..And Jesus said he has not come to overrule the law..We still pray from the Old testament and God hears..It's called the word of God..Both old and new testament..peace unto u

Why observe only the tithe part and ignore the remaining? You guys are bunch of confused hypocrites

OpenYourEyes1:


Tithe is not compulsory but people paid it since the beginning of the World. Abel & cain paid tithe. Abraham paid tithe. Moses paid. People paid tithe in the time of Jesus.
Even Jesus did not discourage tithe.

what will we not see and hear about tithe...
Even adam and eve paid tithe too right?
The manipulation keeps getting more twisted!!

Pastors are bigger thieves than politicians.


Sometimes, I wonder if Christians are daft. You work hard then give your tithe to the church. You see your pastor who does nothing for a living using private jet. And you cannot ask yourself questions.

Smh

OpenYourEyes1:


Jesus never paid tithe? Any scriptural reference?

Jesus and his apostles most likely paid tithe. Those things were never recorded for obvious reasons.

31 But seek his kingdom, and these things will be given to you as well.

32 “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Luke 12:31-34(NIV)
18 A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

19 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 20 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.’[a]”

21 “All these I have kept since I was a boy,” he said.

22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Luke 18:18-22
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. Matthew 23:13-24

Jesus was rebuking the pharisee when He mentioned about tithe but His teaching is 100% to the poor. paying tithe is good but is not the ultimate if it was so important why did Jesus not mentioned such in the sermon of the mount? note i still pay tithe but trusting God for faith and grace to practise the ultimate 100%

ariesbull:
BRO THEY CANT bleeping DO WITH OUT IT...WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY REACHED AGAINST REPENTANCE, ADULTERY, FURNICATION ETC?

A point you have here bruh.
The way they take their time to emphasize on it irks me.
Still gonna give to the ministry but not under compulsion.

Shelumiel:
I seriously disagree with this chap.Tithing is an old testament law , so why are these men taking us back to the old testament ? Did the apostles of old pay tithe and first fruit ? If a person wishes to give or make a donation , he must be led by the Spirit of God; he must be convince by God to make that donation , not compelled because some clown somewhere , sees it as a means of making a good money .

Killing should remain an old testament law also.

OpenYourEyes1:


Pay more than tithe then,if you don't want to pay tithe — Sell parts of your properties & use the money for GOD's work.
If you want to help the poor, sell another part and give the money to the poor.

is ur brain ok? The op said u should show him were the apostles pay tithe in the bible, and stop confusing me joor.

Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.1timithy 5:17

In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.1 Corinthians 9vs 14

Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith.heb 13:7

If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? 1corinthains 9:11

OpenYourEyes1:


The Apostles paid more than tithe. They sold their properties and use the money for GOD's work.

Always give to GOD what belongs to GOD.

A good church uses your tithes for evangelism, [b]helping the congregation [/b]and . not for pastor's enrichment

So how do putting school fees to over #5000,000 per student in a church school where over 50% of its members can't afford help the congregation?
Funny enough in today's Church all you hear is money money money, didn't the Bible says the root of all evil is money?

listen many ppl blive in tithing but d problem comes when dey see all dis so called overseers living nd spendin lavishly ppl bcome jaded bcuz they are like ok pastor is using my money to do faaji instead of the things of God.most ppl are pretty level headed but we are not mugus.we see all d rubbish manyof the so called men are doin nd are now wise to to wats going on

OpenYourEyes1:


Tithe is not compulsory but people paid it since the beginning of the World. Abel & cain paid tithe. Abraham paid tithe. Moses paid. People paid tithe in the time of Jesus.
Even Jesus did not discourage tithe.

Show us in the bible where those you mentioned paid the tithe ?

I want to ask you where you got all those names from? I hope it is not my pastor told me usual ?


Why did the first mentioned tithe payer did so only after he fought war and won ? Does that mean before the war he never paid tithe ?


According to the Bible Jacob said he will pay tithe if God help him win the battle , That simply means The dude doesn't pay tithe and he gave condition that will make him pay tithe. because someone that is already paying tithe will never say he will pay tithe if he win the war.


The issue of tithing is even bigger than your pastors because none of them have any bible backing.

Shelumiel:
I seriously disagree with this chap.Tithing is an old testament law , so why are these men taking us back to the old testament ? Did the apostles of old pay tithe and first fruit ? If a person wishes to give or make a donation , he must be led by the Spirit of God; he must be convince by God to make that donation , not compelled because some clown somewhere , sees it as a means of making a good money .

Sir Tithing is not an Old Testament thing.
Payment of Tithe existed before the law.

Abraham paid Tithe. And it was before the law was given.

Jacob too told God that he would pay his tithe at Bethel which was also before the law.

Genesis 14:18-20 (KJV) And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.


Genesis 28:20-22 (KJV) And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

The law came only to regularize it on how it would be paid and used.

Tithing is under Ceremonial Law. All Ceremonial Laws existed before the law as principles. The law was only given to regularised them.

The Law of Moses is in three categories:
1. Moral Laws
2. Ceremonial Laws
3. Civil Laws

Ceremonial laws are symbolic (that is, allegorical). Meaning they point to something. Animal Sacrifice in old testament is symbolic. It points to Jesus Crucifixion. The only ceremonial law which is not symbolic is Tithing which is an obligation. It is literal. Tithing is an obligation for every Christian. It is 10% or more of your gain.
Tithing is an act of appreciating God for what He has given us.

The Bible is expressed in three language expressions:
1. Symbolic
2. Figurative
3. Literal


Let's be guided God requires our Tithe and there is a Curse on anyone who fails to pay his or her tithe.

Malachi 3:8-10 (KJV) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Thanks

SEONaijaExpert:
It's interesting that matters that has to do with Christians and the Church can be open for public opinions and contributions while Islamic related discussions are restricted to some set of people under an oath.

It is because Islam strictly guard jealously their doctrines, principles, tenets without compromise and give it some great deal of respect. They are not like Christians who has turned the whole Christianity into a piece of joke with their persistent chase after big cathedral, money spinning Universities, tithes and offering. Everything Christianity today is all about money and money. Pastors cruising inside the latest Ferrari, his wife in the latest hummer, his first son in the latest Land Rover Prado and his last son in the latest Benz while Chi rich members cannot afford a 3 square meet daily.

I am a Christian but I say that the Christianity in Nigeria is nothing but a business venture. That is why Church building are appearing at every house, Pastors are faking miracles, testimonies just to hoodwink members and ultimately milk them dry. Pastors are getting desperate everyday to amass wealth for themselves and family. A good example to them is the jet owning Oyedepo and Adeboye among others who have inspired other men of God to amass incredible wealth thorough Church business.

even if you want to use theology the old testament is a shadow of the new testament can you clearly show were Jesus or paul or any other taught about tithing. in Hebrews 7 paul explain a concept were Jesus made reference of tithing He was rebuking the pharisees of their hypocrisy. Jesus taught 100% giving especially to the poor which can also be done through the church. Jacob made a vow when actually God wanted to help him settle the issue o impersonation. after he got the blessing if God did not intervene Esau would have killed him were will he be alive to pay the tithe[url][/url]

Olumyco:


Sir Tithing is not an Old Testament thing.
Payment of Tithe existed before the law.

Abraham paid Tithe. And it was before the law was given.

Jacob too told God that he would pay his tithe at Bethel which was also before the law.

Genesis 14:18-20 (KJV) And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.


Genesis 28:20-22 (KJV) And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

The law came only to regularize it on how it would be paid and used.

Tithing is under Ceremonial Law. All Ceremonial Laws existed before the law as principles. The law was only given to regularised them.

The Law of Moses is in three categories:
1. Moral Laws
2. Ceremonial Laws
3. Civil Laws

Ceremonial laws are symbolic (that is, allegorical). Meaning they point to something. Animal Sacrifice in old testament is symbolic. It points to Jesus Crucifixion. The only ceremonial law which is not symbolic is Tithing which is an obligation. It is literal. Tithing is an obligation for every Christian. It is 10% or more of your gain.
Tithing is an act of appreciating God for what He has given us.

The Bible is expressed in three language expressions:
1. Symbolic
2. Figurative
3. Literal


Let's be guided God requires our Tithe and there is a Curse on anyone who fails to pay his or her tithe.

Malachi 3:8-10 (KJV) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Thanks

abuuzy:
Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.1timithy 5:17

In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.1 Corinthians 9vs 14

Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith.heb 13:7

If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? 1corinthains 9:11

Hey Mister, I'm not interested in these war of words trending about tithing but what I'd like to advice you is whenever you're quoting a scripture, don't read out the part that favours you. 1Cor 9:14 that you wrote, if you read it down verse 15 :Apostle Paul said he has not used any of the right or compulsion, that he'd rather die than allow anybody to boast that he fed him. If you read the book of Nehemiah very well, you should be able to discern how our church leaders should behave.
I am not against tithing because in Mathew 23:23, Jesus Christ was angry that the Pharisees have made it the most important aspect and that's exactly what it is nowadays . The true religion we were told to practice in James 1:27 have been replaced with prosperity talks, Grace abounds anytime you deliberately commit sin sermons, polluting the church with Worldliness. I'd like to you to read Micah 3:5 as well. There's absolutely nothing wrong in tithing and giving for the right course after all we all pay taxes with nothing to show for it but these pastors, that are supposed to build us up in the body of Christ are living flamboyantly and throwing it on our faces.

Another lazy MOG interested in access to people's money.
Thieves... sanctified thieves everywhere.

OpenYourEyes1:


Heaven is not for stingy people bro.
Always try to give a minimum of 10 percent to GOD ALMIGHTY. Parts of your wealth must go to the poor also

Perhaps God needs to get a job like most of us.

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Akdegreat:


Did they pay every month?