Hadampson:
Now, Jump up and let's talk about the military because Canada has available manpower of 16,000,000 (might not be accurate but if you know the actual number, don't hesitate to correct me) while Germany has about 37,000,000. Out of this number, 13 million are fit for service in Canada and 29.5 million are fit for service in Germany.

Canada active personnel sit roughly 79,000 people, with Germany having 108,000 soldiers. Canada however has more soldiers in reserve (32,000) than Germany (30,000)

As for the defense budget of Canada is $15.5billion and Germany defense budget is $39.2 billion. However all of these are completely useless, all the machines that they have would be out of commission if they didn't have OIL and when it comes to oil, Canada produces more oil than Germany.

All in all, both Germany and Canada are a good place to relocate to. If you want diversity and maybe cold, Canada is the right place for you and if you want freedom of movement and work (easy access travel to other European destinations) and cultural exposure, then i suggest you choose Germany

Sorry but when you say freedom of movement you make it sound like Canada restricts one’s movement. Lots of people travel all the time to Americas ad Europes. I really don’t understand your language

ottersberger:


Any that you are qualified for.

I'm not talking about me, I'm asking questions in other to add to my knowledge, I'm not the one planning to relocate to Germany

Sarang:


Sorry but when you say freedom of movement you make it sound like Canada restricts one’s movement. Lots of people travel all the time to Americas ad Europes. I really don’t understand your language

That person has not left the shores of Nigeria, he is still in the planning mode hence his out of point POST

Sarang:


I haven’t been to Germany but I will choose Canada any day anytime.

Do you realise that there are no jobs in Canada. Canada is an overskilled society which would hire a canadian first before any other persons.

A lot of people are in Canada driving cabs, doing menial jobs as opposed to other countries.

Dino98:



Generally both countries are very good....but for an Immigrant, Canada is better...Canadians are more welcoming and very polite. It is easier to settle in faster in Canada than Germany.

But if u look at it in terms of technology and all those world power crap....Germany is at the top.

Where is the Job in Canada please. Cab driving & Security guards.

Thanks for everyone who has contributed. I really appreciate.



On the side, it felt weird the OP has not lived in the country or have first hand information about stuff. You can never be too sure until you get there, can you?



Lemme just follow the thread immediately.

Chriswazo:
bro if not for language, Germany beats Canada hands down.

I stay here in Germany, Regensburg I can categorically tell u that Germany is better than Canada bro......

erico2k2:

How??

I think Germany has an economy that is diversified enough to weather major economic turbulence.

It has a very solid industrial manufacturing capacity.

Most multinationals are now moving away from the UK in lieu of Brexit (The UK is no match by the way), further consolidating Germany's economic diversification.

Germans are very accommodating and their immigration laws are actually quite modern and liberal.

Germany is largely a social state so that violent crimes are very minimal compared to Canada.

Deutschland is also a Rechtsstaat . This means that you can be secure in the knowledge that your rights as a human will not be violated and you can find justice in the courts.

World-class Medical care is readily available in Germany for even the poorest of the citizens through the social welfare system.

You get to enjoy a Mercedes Benz every time you hail a cab.

Germany has one of the best urban and national transportation networks in the world (the high-speed trains in China are built by Siemens).

If you have not raced on the Autobahn, then you have not earned the right to call yourself a driver .

People talk about racism, I experienced undiluted racism in the USA while I lived there, one of the reasons I returned to good old Deutschland. Canada is not as racist though.

In all, I think these are 2 countries anyone who is willing to work hard and respect the laws should seriously consider moving to. If you are not willing to learn a new language as much that it becomes a barrier in your choice-making process, then the individual is not ready to succeed in his or her quest just yet.

truthsayer009:


Do you realise that there are no jobs in Canada. Canada is an overskilled society which would hire a canadian first before any other persons.

A lot of people are in Canada driving cabs, doing menial jobs as opposed to other countries.

I think we have more cab drivers in the Uk than Canada lol Ubar

So which is easier to get to? For people who their work is internet based?

erico2k2:

Economy that in the EU only
Large market, again that's in the EU
Close prox to where? Canada has close prox to the US
Freedom of movement to where?? to the less privileged countries around it??
German passport is not stronger cos once U have it you give up ur 9 ja, meaning U take visa each time. plus has value in the EU only, don't get it twisted.
Weather, Seriously?

Lol
Less privileged countries?

ottersberger:


I think Germany has an economy that is diversified enough to weather a major economic turbulence.

It has a very solid industrial manufacturing capacity.

Most multinationals are now moving away from the UK in lieu of Brexit (The UK is no match by the way), further consolidating Germany's economic diversification.

Germans are very accommodating and it's immigration laws are actually quite modern and liberal.

Germany is largely a social state so that violent crimes are at a very minimum compared to Canada.

Deutschland is also a Rechtsstaat . This means that you can be secure in the knowledge that your rights as a human will not be violated and you can find justice in the courts.

World class Medical care is readily available in Germany for even the poorest of the citizens through the social welfare system.

You get to enjoy a mercedes benz every time you hail a cab.

Germany has one of the best urban and national transportation networks in the world (the high speed trains in china are built by Siemens).

If you have not raced on the Autobahn, then you have not earned the rights to call yourself a driver .

People talk about racism, I experienced undiluted racism in the usa while i lived there, one of the reasons I returned to good old Deutschland. Canada is not as racist though.

In all, I think these are 2 countries anyone who is willing to work hard and respect the laws should seriously consider moving to. If you are not willing to learn a new language as much, that it becomes a barrier in your choice making process, then the individual is not ready to succeed in his or her quest just yet.

Autobahn is very correct. I remember last year I took flix bus from Hamburg to Magdeburg. We arrived at Wolfsburg (VW headquarters ) about 10 pm and we changed bus to a VW transporter 14 seater bus. That night on the Autobahn from Wolfsburg to Berlin the driver was doing steady 180km/hr and sometimes 160km/hr. Even at that speed some vehicles were still overtaking the bus with ease. Within 45 minutes I was already in Magdeburg.

MobilityExpress:


Skill and talent it is. And by education, my context was based on certification.[b] In the past, they programmed the society to believe that without certification you can't amount to anything in life. [/b]But today, that mold is breaking and not holding water. How many footballers earning tens of millions of pounds per year went to school, let alone have any certification. So certification no longer is the ONLY way to get rich. There are other ways. I'm not saying certification is bad or not necessary. I'm just saying, it's not a do or die affair like they always made us believe. Before, how many parents will want their child to enrol in a football academy? 98% want their children to be doctors, lawyers and engineers. But today, it's not like that. Before, it's mostly poor man's children going into music, but today even the rich kids are trooping into it. So my point is, education is no longer the only SURE way to get rich.

The bolded, this is still widely believed in Nigeria

ottersberger:


I think Germany has an economy that is diversified enough to weather a major economic turbulence.

It has a very solid industrial manufacturing capacity.

Most multinationals are now moving away from the UK in lieu of Brexit (The UK is no match by the way), further consolidating Germany's economic diversification.

Germans are very accommodating and it's immigration laws are actually quite modern and liberal.

Germany is largely a social state so that violent crimes are at a very minimum compared to Canada.

Deutschland is also a Rechtsstaat . This means that you can be secure in the knowledge that your rights as a human will not be violated and you can find justice in the courts.

World class Medical care is readily available in Germany for even the poorest of the citizens through the social welfare system.

You get to enjoy a mercedes benz every time you hail a cab.

Germany has one of the best urban and national transportation networks in the world (the high speed trains in china are built by Siemens).

If you have not raced on the Autobahn, then you have not earned the rights to call yourself a driver .

People talk about racism, I experienced undiluted racism in the usa while i lived there, one of the reasons I returned to good old Deutschland. Canada is not as racist though.

In all, I think these are 2 countries anyone who is willing to work hard and respect the laws should seriously consider moving to. If you are not willing to learn a new language as much, that it becomes a barrier in your choice making process, then the individual is not ready to succeed in his or her quest just yet.

ahah We might have loads of BMW and Merc Ubar drivers than Germany lol
Rights regards the language bit, I was looking more on the Hit the ground running ie study to get an NVQ in Nursing and get a Job B4 they move to other things assuming they have the rights to work. Germany has a bigger manufacturing infrastructure. What do you expect, you guys have the largest deposit of Iron Ore in Europe.As per Brexit, the Uk is the Economic hub of Europe at the moment, let us see what Brexit brings, I think our problem with the Eu started when you guys decided to let every Tom Dick and Harry join the EU, even Turkey where running their mouth but since Brexit they shut it. The worse where the Romanians, that was the nail on the cofin.

ibietela2:


Lol
Less privileged countries?

Yeh France and Spain,? Relative to Germany and UK?

integrator:


Autobahn is very correct. I remember last year I took flix bus from Hamburg to Magdeburg. We arrived at Wolfsburg (VW headquarters ) about 10 pm and we changed bus to a VW transporter 14 seater bus. That night on the Autobahn from Wolfsburg to Berlin the driver was doing steady 180km/hr and sometimes 160km/hr. Even at that speed some vehicles were still overtaking the bus with ease. Within 45 minutes I was already in Magdeburg.

U need to drive it to feel it.
However, there is a place in the US you can do such on a straight line for almost 4 hours driving

ottersberger:


Any that you are qualified for.

Just a quick one, How many Nigerian Police officers do you know in Germany
How many lawyers are Nigerians?

About 60% of the Autobahn in Germany is without speed limit. And the drivers here are very professional. Unlike most of our commercial bus drivers that swerve and apply brakes suddenly.

erico2k2:

Thank you, one of my classmate moved from Germany after 15 years.he Joined the Police force here in the Uk as we speak. He told me that can never happen in Germany.I don't know how true but that was what he said. There loads of Nigerian Doctors, Engineers, lawyers in the UK

I think UK migration should be easy for Nigerians and other former colonies, i don't think they made provisions for that

ibietela2:


I think UK migration should be easy for Nigerians and other former colonies, i don't think they made provisions for that

It is not easy, it is very hard these days, but it is possible just takes ages to get Uk passport these days, almost 12 years.

integrator:
About 60% of the Autobahn in Germany is without speed limit. And the drivers here are very professional. Unlike most of our commercial bus drivers that swerve and apply brakes suddenly.

GO to Italy and see driving ahah those guys will beep at you if you stop at a red light those Italians no get chill

erico2k2:

It is not easy, it is very hard these days, but it is possible just takes ages to get Uk passport these days, almost 12 years.

Na wa these guys sha, is this how France treats its former colonies?

Sufisunni:
on the contrary, German educational system is some how discriminatory and tough especially for those coming from Ox/Cambridge grading system. Germany separates children as early as 10years old into Hauptschule, Realschule and Gynamsium. 60% usually fail(Abitur) WAEC.

Most German universities don't give CA. 100% exam. You need 90 to 95% to get 1.0 while Ox/Cambridge system gives you an A with 70%

Despite free education, Germany has the lowest number of graduates among G8 nations, 26% graduates by many statistics. One in every 3 abandons studies between 1 to 2 years in the University

The bottomline is, German educational sytem makes an average student struggling to pass

The above observation is a consequence of the superior education that a pupil or student obtain in Germany.

A correction is however necessary here though, Abitur is equivalent to the Cambridge A level and not Waec. You're talking about Realschulabschluss which is inferior to Abitur.

The foregoing is one of the reasons Germany has continued to maintained its premium positiin among its peers.

Degrees awarded by some American Universities are not recognized in Germany.

In my opinion, rightly so.

ibietela2:


Na wa these guys sha, is this how France treats its former colonies?

DUnno about France, but I think the Refugee matter still works in Europe not in the Uk as such if you want to see a clear indication about Immigration in the Eu just google Carlisle and see the number of people who want to cross over from France,U sef go fear.

ottersberger:


The above observation is a consequence of the superior education that a pupil or student obtain in Germany.

A correction is however necessary here though, Abitur is equivalent to the Cambridge A level and not Waec. You're talking about Realschulabschluss which is inferior to Abitur.

The foregoing is one of the reasons Germany has continued to maintained its premium positiin among its peers.

Degrees awarded by some American Universities are not recognized in Germany.

In my opinion, rightly so.

I no wan laugh ohhhh, But is that not an EU thing?

eduson33:
when will African countries be discussed like this?

The year we decide to carve our African map. The countries here today are just harvest gatherings of the so called world powers.

erico2k2:

Ok I would like to think we are having an adult conversation stemming from 1st hand experience.Let me ask you again how long do you think a person who comes from Nigeria will take to learn how to speak and write in Dutch to the level of starting O'level before University in Germany??

I can answer that question, and the answer is 6 months.

How do I know?, that's how long myself and the many foreign students that I started out with back in the day took.

As regards how far a black person can go in Germany, it will interest you to know that there are people of African origin who are politicians in Germany.

There is a town i know (Rittmarshausen, Niedersachsen) whose mayor is an African. Also, there are professors and scientists in the university system who are Africans.

I'm friends with 2 clinically practicing Nigerian doctors in Germany. indeed, the young girl who attended to me at my bank last week is originally from kenya.

ottersberger:

I can answer that question, and the answer is 6 months.

How do I know?, that's how long myself and the many foreign students that I started out with back in the day took.

As regards how far a black person can go in Germany, it will interest you to know that there are people of African origin who are politicians in Germany.

There is a town i know (Rittmarshausen, Niedersachsen) whose mayor is an African. Also, there are professors and scientists in the university system who are Africans.

I'm friends with 2 clinically practicing Nigerian doctors in Germany. indeed, the young girl who attended to me at my bank last week is originally from kenya.

If you noticed, I specifically said Nigerians cos I can relate to our standard of living and Education, can't say however talking about Doctors, In the UK and Canada, every other 3rd African Doctor is a Nigerian,I'm trying not to bring Uk into this though,I still believe it would be far easier for me to be a person of Authority in Canada than in Germany. Germany is just opening its Doors to black people, they still have a long way to go in integration, or maybe it's just me thinking. In Canada, I got few friends Who are prison Officers,I got one who is a Police Officer, just to mention a few these where my classmates from back 9ja though, The guy I was talking about who came here from Germany 2010 worked in the post office for 10 years until he came here and Joined the police.I'm not saying its not possible rather just more difficult, this is what I am perceiving unless Im wrong.

Der Deutsche Mann No b naija u be..lol?

erico2k2:

Economy that in the EU only
Large market, again that's in the EU
Close prox to where? Canada has close prox to the US
Freedom of movement to where?? to the less privileged countries around it??
German passport is not stronger cos once U have it you give up ur 9ja, meaning U take a visa each time. plus has value in the EU only, don't get it twisted.
Weather, Seriously?

Germany allows dual citizenship for Nigerians.

A German passport beats both UK and Canada's any day.

Germany is number 3 in the world passport index, only behind Singapore and South Korea, while the UK and Canada are numbers 6 and 7 respectively.

It's the 4th largest economy in the world.

In the leading countries for machine tool exports, Germany has continued to maintain the number 1 position.

Cletus77:
I love Germany, but most people prefer Canada because they speak English and French, the two European dominant languages in Africa.

Although German is quite close to English and Germany makes provision for language learning for immigrants, staying in Canada is like staying in the US but lesser laws.

Don't be decieved by size, most parts of Canada are either sparsely or unhabitable, that's why its are not that populated. Climate conditions are favourable in the European power than Canada.

Ich Liebe Deutschland (I love Germany), but I think Canada is good for starters

I learnt Germans are pure racists and the fear that another third Reich may start and they will soon start rounding up Jews and coloured is a problem. Canada the land of settlers and no mans country is better.

Hadampson:
Now, let us look at the GDP of these countries, how much do these countries make

Germany ranked 4th in the world with a total of $4.029 trillion with per capital of $48,669 (nominal) ranking 17th in the world

Canada however has $1,820 trillion GDP ranking 10th in the world and its nominal GDP per capital which is $48,601 which ranks 16th in the world

Seriously, i don't know how Canada would actually beat Germany, doesn't make alot of sense to me BUT that is what i found

For a country that has such population and being so young that's wonderful..enough to go round