Sufisunni:
Quite unfortunate of you saying that Switzerland, Belgium, Finnland, Denmark and Austria are less privileged! have you bothered checking at the per capita GDP of these countries standard of living, life expectancy, cost of living, monthly income of their graduates? etc.
Or you only believe on the narratives being churned out to you by British people(media), whom don't even know what they want because they couldn't agree yesterday on any of the eight alternatives(proposed by themselves) of Brexit deal and same people had earlier on rejected May's deal, coming closest of all was a second referendum! I am forced to agree with Fareed Zakari of CNN quote "Brexit a solution in search of problem" The lies that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage told brexiteers can't not longer stand.

Germany has many advantages over the UK; education is absolutely free without paying outrageous tuitions for years and upon graduation, an average German graduate earns 6k€ to 9k€ more than a UK garduate. Foreign students get 18 months visa to search for jobs, while in the UK one gets only 4months after graduation in spite of paying through your nose to study there.

Are you aware that Germany has the most livable cities world, Munich topping the whole world. Germany has four cities among the first top 20. Munich, Berlin, Hamburg and Düsseldorf. None of the Uk cities features in the first 20 including your London. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bishopjordan/2018/06/25/monocle-most-livable-city-quality-life-survey-2018-munich/#28451be56153


Every country has its high and low sides and every body can't be in the UK. You should ask yourself what are some USA citizens doing in Germany, even people from Carlifornia, which is perhaps the richest state in the world!
It's obvious as a Nigerian, one would find it easier to settle in the UK than Germany because of language barrier, but that is also not insurmountable with dedication and commitment to learning the language. Lastweek I read an article in dailytrust about the first qualified female surgeon in northern Nigeria, Dr Uwatu Balla from Adamawa State, who studied in Germany with same Deutsch as medium of instruction.

Im going to give you one simple assignment, ask yourself why do people treck pass these countries you mentioned and end up at Carlisle trying to enter the UK if you got a valid reason I will delete that post,I'm waiting not all those crap written on paper, I'm waiting 4 U to tell me why people in their thousand try to enter the UK via channel tunnel.

wildikeman:
its very easy to learno.. I have never beeen to any country outside naija anf i understand some German through the use of an app called Duolingo... Very easy.. Just sime pronounciations are difficult... All those dia ich dich and the rest. It should take you at least six months if youbare seriously trying to learn

Probably mayB I'm just being politely dumb . But come to think of it, People fail English in WAEC so how would them ones cope with writing the same level in Germany, to speak is one to read and write is another one cos I got English people who can't read nor write too you know

Canada is far better. I live in Germany. I will tell you without holding back. Germany is not what people perceive it to be. Canada is better.

Hadampson:



Goodluck sir.

Thanks, and good luck to you when you do cross to Europe.

erico2k2:

Thanks, and good luck to you when you do cross to Europe.

Thank you sir

Hadampson:


Lol.. You can imagine, tagging Germany a racist country... Is there any country in the world where you won't see a racist

I wonder o. If a german had administered a machete to the head of any one of us like the fulanis do in Nigeria everyday, you will hear the average Nigerian and his asinine mindset. I don't hear or see the opprobrium that ought to follow the daily murder and genocide in your mist, yet we come here to denigrate people who's integrity you cannot attain in a million years.

ottersberger:


I wonder o. If a german had administered a machete to the head of any one of us like the fulanis do in Nigeria everyday, you will hear the average Nigerian and hus asinine mindset. I don't hear or see the opprobrium that ought to follow the daily murder and genocide in your mist, yet we come here to denigrate people who's integrity you cannot attain in a million years.

That's Nigerians for you

ottersberger:


Ah Oga,

You know say britico cunny no be small. Shebi na dat financial sector that's their lifeline. The same exact reason they refused to join the euro monetary regime make dem dey follow their US cousins use pounds obtain the rest of us abi.

Anyways, as you know, and as we speak, there is a massiv risk wagering going on in the finance institutions heavily weighted in the UK.
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I hope the UK continue to retain its position in that department. Not sure what happens when everyone suddenly remembers that it will be way more expensive and cumbersome to be domiciled in a country that has become a lone wolf.

Would you rather stick with the small guy or the big boys led by Germany?.

Office space prices are going through the roof in Frankfurt as we speak. We will get back to this if and when brexit happens.

Meanwhile, i know you will agree with me that real wealth creation came with industrialisation. The UK is administering wealth created elsewhere and living off the rent. Now that's living on borrowed time depending on which direction the wind blows. .

See you, Una for that country too wise, Una dey use the rest of Europe dey trade, I made mention of less privileged someone here was arguing with me.Look in this EU fellowship Germany are the only ones getting richer.Even the bloody money is printed in ur country. if you look at the 4th top bank in the world its HSBC, they are based in London Im sure you have them there too, our manufacturing is strong, we are a great consumer nation too. as we speak the pounds is 473 to the naira, it went up. they are trying to make the pound same as Euro so that Europeans will return back to their country but that one nor wor but for some of them they return already ie Polish.If you go to Croydon and see the amount of EU people who dey change to Uk pali fear go catch you sef.COme park lane and see the so-called new EU people sleeping on makeshift tents, its embarrassing,I trust my African people,no African I know sleeps on the street.The said Brexit go come and go nothing go happen we go struck deal wey go benefit everybody.Spain for their fruits veg and wine are being sidelined already as the Uk is signing up with countries from South America.The bana Im taking to work now is from the samba country.

ottersberger:


I wonder o. If a german had administered a machete to the head of any one of us like the fulanis do in Nigeria everyday, you will hear the average Nigerian and hus asinine mindset. I don't hear or see the opprobrium that ought to follow the daily murder and genocide in your mist, yet we come here to denigrate people who's integrity you cannot attain in a million years.

You know people speak from personal experience but the one that gets me is if you have never been in Germany and you tag it racist, nah that one they surprise me,

ottersberger:


You're not wrong. I came to Germany when plain clothes police officers still stopped you on the streets and asked for your id..

These days are long gone. They no longer bother since every second black man you meet on the streets has a German citizenship.

In fact, you don't get asked what country you come from any longer. The question today, if any is, which country you originally came from. Notice the difference?.

It is expected that you have the German citizenship because it is indeed easy to obtain and a straight forward process. The exception being if everything about you screems "Ich bin Asylbewerber" (I am an Asylum applicant).

This position as one might rightly suspect is not altruistic.

German like its neighbors to the west has finally woken up to the reality that it is an aging population that is not producing enough children to sustain its social system and economic workforce.

We are now the new frontier. Wir sind Deutschland!

You can attain German citizenship in way less than 5 years today. 3 years is possible.

My point being that Germany to a large extent did not have long term colonial affiliatiin in Africa in comparison to france or the UK.

There is a reason why Canada is a member of the commonwealth. Her majesty's escapades in Africa robs off on Canada too historically. Canada was an immigration destination, Germany was not.

Therefore, through association, you can expect these level of integration. Our people are gradually making progress into the Germany societal core, and i am quite excited about where we are headed.

Thank you for this honest acknowledgement,I believe the more you guys integrate the better but learn from the Uk know when to shut ur doors and control ur social benefits system well if not you will be like the Uk whose social infrastructure is now bursting at its sims hence Brexit.
You know. cos of this free movement group of bricklayers can just come and under bid you in a project in London, they come in a van do teh job and bug off back to the Eu leaving skilled trades m en in the Uk out of pocket, this was the part that pissss them off. Another one was people coming down here with 10 kids, claim benefit for the whole 10 take nine back to the Eu and still claim benefit as if they were living here. .Ur kids cant get school places near your house etc.let me tell you the Brits just woke up to realise Africans are not their problems, cos the average African wants to work and better their lives. The found out too late the problem was the EU people especially the new entrants so the result was Brexit.SO in my book, everything will remain same apart from the case of free movement.

ottersberger:


Ah Oga,

You know say britico cunny no be small. Shebi na dat financial sector that's their lifeline. The same exact reason they refused to join the euro monetary regime make dem dey follow their US cousins use pounds obtain the rest of us abi.

Anyways, as you know, and as we speak, there is a massiv risk wagering going on in the finance institutions heavily weighted in the UK.
.
I hope the UK continue to retain its position in that department. Not sure what happens when everyone suddenly remembers that it will be way more expensive and cumbersome to be domiciled in a country that has become a lone wolf.

Would you rather stick with the small guy or the big boys led by Germany?.

Office space prices are going through the roof in Frankfurt as we speak. We will get back to this if and when brexit happens.

Meanwhile, i know you will agree with me that real wealth creation came with industrialisation. The UK is administering wealth created elsewhere and living off the rent. Now that's living on borrowed time depending on which direction the wind blows. .

Come on bro, the Uk where leaders when it came to wealth creation,make we go back to History for intercontinental trade?
Your Electric,TV,Radio,Energy,Railway etc,haba make we go on? as we speak we have the most advanced Underground rail lines in the world till just now

K9blunt:
and I stand by what I said... Germany is quite racist...go to Leipzig or any eastern part and settle. I bet you haven't even been there.

Suprise!.

i just arrived in Leipzig. And I come here every 3 weeks in my professional capacity.

Leipzig is a city rich in interlectual culture. You'll like it.

Look, Germany is a safe place where anyone can build a good life. Please don't build your opinion based on innuendo.

Nobody pays me to come on here and give my opinion. I'm doing this in the hope that someone might benefit from my experience and maybe make a life choice that gets them to where they want to be.

It is firsthand accounts of life in Europe I heared from someone I met in cote d' ivoire that made me throw away my form I 20 back in the day and headed to Germany (the part about blond girls did it for me ). That was a confirmed admission to a texas university.

I did went back to that school, but came right back home here on graduation.

Yes, Germany is that good. It has been to me.

ottersberger:


Yes they do. There is a fireign ministry directive to that effect.

I think there are people who are on this thread to glean life decision information, and I think that it is a disservice to them if we fail to get the facts straight and in the process Rob them of that which they seek.

Germany allow dual citizenship for Nigerians as a matter of policy fir the simple reason that a nigerian cannot be reasonably expected to have renounced his citizenship.

Good to know.

ghettochild4u:

Its like that d world over....
Even here in S.A, its worst.. International students pay about 3 times more than south Africans

Ah Ah wait.. are you trying to input South Africa in the discussion?? or is S.A not South Africa? You people better be careful.

K9blunt:
and I stand by what I said... Germany is quite racist...go to Leipzig or any eastern part and settle. I bet you haven't even been there.

Look,there are racist everywhere, the Germany you are describing is changing and letting people in, ur xpirience might be harsh but they are changing, same can be said about the Uk and Northern Ireland.but will you label the Uk racist?
ottersberger is one person from Germany I can take his word when it comes to Germany, so I will give him this one!
During my early days,I was working at the weekends as a doorman in some night club to earn a bit of cash, I remember telling a German guy not to park his car in front of the entrance he was so angry that a black guy was telling him what to do, according to what he said then cos the Benin guy who was with me spoke German so he understood and told him back in Dutch, piss of you trash this is England we do not tolerate racist here, he went really red and afraid and drove off. That was 2000.

Adeniyii2017:

Ah Ah wait.. are you trying to input South Africa in the discussion?? or is S.A not South Africa? You people better be careful.

Bross leave am nah Abroad, I don tell you leave am ohhh

erico2k2:

Bross leave am nah Abroad, I don tell you leave am ohhh

LMAOOO... kikikiki

erico2k2:

Bro where is ur finance/banking ranking in the world settings? you are not even among the top 10
As per Passport, where does the German Passport go that the UK and Canadian passport cant go?
In the weight of Economy, The Uk is 5th and Canada is 10 but do not forget your financial system is lacking so is ur banks, they are not on the top 10

Propaganda don finish you Lool.. you are not a financial person, you won’t understand. “All na bail out..” I hope you understand this at least, if not don’t bother replying, I can’t help you. Don’t ever compare Germany with UK, enlightened people will probably ignore you. Peace man. Germany is okay.

erico2k2:

Come on bro, the Uk where leaders when it came to wealth creation,make we go back to History for intercontinental trade?
Your Electric,TV,Radio,Energy,Railway etc,haba make we go on? as we speak we have the most advanced Underground rail lines in the world till just now

Broda,

I for say make I hold the door or hide key under foot mat for you just in case.

But I know that you're setup pretty good and indeed very comfortable.

Nigel farage and Boris Johnson is bad news to the average Uk citizen. These are the egg heads who need to be looked upon.

The UK has its strength. A formidable world influencer with now dwindling capacity. I hope it gets it right. I know the UK can.

If you one day chose to visit here, board, lodging and the blondes are on me (oops, scratch the blondes).

PostScript: na so you alone take enjoy that RR abi?.

wildikeman:


What about neo Nazi and in shot racism

Ahhh.. I can’t help you!

wildikeman:
what.. So u live in Nigeria..?

Haba Bros.

Cool down na. Him go soon port come dis side.

Sufisunni:
Quite unfortunate of you saying that Switzerland, Belgium, Finnland, Denmark and Austria are less privileged! have you bothered checking at the per capita GDP of these countries standard of living, life expectancy, cost of living, monthly income of their graduates? etc.
Or you only believe on the narratives being churned out to you by British people(media), whom don't even know what they want because they couldn't agree yesterday on any of the eight alternatives(proposed by themselves) of Brexit deal and same people had earlier on rejected May's deal, coming closest of all was a second referendum! I am forced to agree with Fareed Zakari of CNN quote "Brexit a solution in search of problem" The lies that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage told brexiteers can't not longer stand.

Germany has many advantages over the UK; education is absolutely free without paying outrageous tuitions for years and upon graduation, an average German graduate earns 6k€ to 9k€ more than a UK garduate. Foreign students get 18 months visa to search for jobs, while in the UK one gets only 4months after graduation in spite of paying through your nose to study there.

Well said.. fully informed!

Ugosample:
Both countries are good in their own way.

Who is saying they are not good? Which one is better oga? That is the question

erico2k2:

Im going to give you one simple assignment, ask yourself why do people treck pass these countries you mentioned and end up at Carlisle trying to enter the UK if you got a valid reason I will delete that post,I'm waiting not all those crap written on paper, I'm waiting 4 U to tell me why people in their thousand try to enter the UK via channel tunnel.

You just confirmed what I said earlier, you seem programmed to believe that only the UK has problem of migrants. Many countries have problems of migration even Nigeria, yes! If the total number of Nigeriens influx to Nigeria if counted (legal and illegal) may even be more than those crossing your so-called Carlisle that you are obsessed with. English has long history of colonisation. The UK went round the world colonising and forcing their language on people some centuries back and has therefore developed affiliation and affinity with different race and that, that has made it more integrated than any country in the Europe. Most crossing Carlisle are coming from Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran whom by virtue of English language universality speak English. So what do you expect? The UK and France were discussing of joint patrol to checkmate that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/46722608.

People leaving one country to another doesn't necessarily mean the other one is bad. Everyone has different reasons. USA citizens are in Germany and vice versa.
You ought to look at metrics of each individual country like standard of living, per capita GDP, monthly income, life expectancy, cost of living, unemployment rate etc.

Furthermore, you can only read and listen to English news, so expect them to telling you the truth about everybody? Listen to French, German, Belgian news to hear their side of the story.

What are British doing in Spain? Can you explain why? Spain is home to highest number of british born out side the UK?

wildikeman:

I can renounce my Nigerian citizenship o... I renounce it a hundred times....

You’re probably still in Nigeria that’s why you’re sounding this way. By the time you leave you’d know the freedom you enjoy as a Nigerian. By then, even if you don’t have anything else you’ll be glad you are a Nigerian.

erico2k2:

Thank you for this honest acknowledgement,I believe the more you guys integrate the better but learn from the Uk know when to shut ur doors and control ur social benefits system well if not you will be like the Uk whose social infrastructure is now bursting at its sims hence Brexit.
You know. cos of this free movement group of bricklayers can just come and under bid you in a project in London, they come in a van do teh job and bug off back to the Eu leaving skilled trades m en in the Uk out of pocket, this was the part that pissss them off. Another one was people coming down here with 10 kids, claim benefit for the whole 10 take nine back to the Eu and still claim benefit as if they were living here. .Ur kids cant get school places near your house etc.let me tell you the Brits just woke up to realise Africans are not their problems, cos the average African wants to work and better their lives. The found out too late the problem was the EU people especially the new entrants so the result was Brexit.SO in my book, everything will remain same apart from the case of free movement.

We both understand the underlying issues. It's no different on this side of the channel.

The real question is, do you amputate the nose to spite the face?.

The poles did the exact same thing here, including stealing anything that is not screwed down.

Heck they stole my car never to be recovered, and turks broke into my apartment while i attended a seminar in Oslo and left me only my wash machine because it was too heavy to cart down the stairs.

What is needed is a reform of the EU systems. We need to recognise and acknowledge that there are loopholes and it needs to sorted.

The UK was and is important to the EU project. I personally hope they have a rethink.

erico2k2:

Look,there are racist everywhere, the Germany you are describing is changing and letting people in, ur xpirience might be harsh but they are changing, same can be said about the Uk and Northern Ireland.but will you label the Uk racist?
ottersberger is one person from Germany I can take his word when it comes to Germany, so I will give him this one!
During my early days,I was working at the weekends as a doorman in some night club to earn a bit of cash, I remember telling a German guy not to park his car in front of the entrance he was so angry that a black guy was telling him what to do, according to what he said then cos the Benin guy who was with me spoke German so he understood and told him back in Dutch, piss of you trash this is England we do not tolerate racist here, he went really red and afraid and drove off. That was 2000.

oh thanks for the info...I'm gathering up information on where to go and do my masters and the options are Germany, Australia or Canada. And someone just came here from Austria and started saying that the entire Germany (because he has also been there) are hatful most especially in the east. I know there's racism everywhere. But I just don't want to be called a no.g.ger everyday or be called a foreigner that's why I made those comments about the country

ottersberger:


Broda,

I for say make I hold the door or hide key under foot mat for you just in case.

But I know that you're setup pretty good and indeed very comfortable.

Nigel farage and Boris Johnson is bad news to the average Uk citizen. These are the egg heads who need to be looked upon.

The UK has its strength. A formidable world influencer with now dwindling capacity. I hope it gets it right. I know the UK can.

If you one day chose to visit here, board, lodging and the blondes are on me (oops, scratch the blondes).

PostScript: na so you alone take enjoy that RR abi?.

Chey you dey go peep me ni, aha
Yeah I have visited in the past you know, I use to have a German colleague and we do weekends there and Poland back in the days B4 kids came, U know how E dey be Nah.But sure will very soon as I now get block days off work.
You know like I do the brits are very clever when it comes to finances and policy, they get it done right but it usually takes a long time. The are clever cookies.
Nigel is a strong character, he is Britain 1st.you know he told the Eu parliament that he had a better deal for them, for them to veto the application of Uk to extend the time frame beyond the end of this month re Brexit, and said that will force the Uk to agree on what deal they have in hand, guess what, the EU parliament did not have the balls to, they are going to grant an extension from all indication,, this led me to believe the EU is all talk.if you notice the Eu is very quiet these days

Adeniyii2017:

Well said.. fully informed!

I can't agree more.

K9blunt:
oh thanks for the info...I'm gathering up information on where to go and do my masters and the options are Germany, Australia or Canada. And someone just came here from Austria and started saying that the entire Germany (because he has also been there) are hatful most especially in the east. I know there's racism everywhere. But I just don't want to be called a no.g.ger everyday or be called a foreigner that's why I made those comments about the country

Let me tell you one thing, I came here nearly 20 years ago, Im talking UK, I have never ever been stopped and searched, but I know people who get searched every month, now we both black.TThe Police only stopped me once cos I was driving with my fog light on i n 2005.

ottersberger:


We both understand the underlying issues. It's no different on this side of the channel.

The real question is, do you amputate the nose to spite the face?.

The poles did the exact same thing here, including stealing anything that is not screwed down.

Heck they stole my car never to be recovered, and turks broke into my apartment while i attended a seminar in Oslo and left me only my wash machine because it was too heavy to cart down the stairs.

What is needed is a refirm of the EU systems. We need to recognise and acknowledge that there are loopholes and it needs to sorted.

The UK was and is important to the EU project. I personally hope they have a rethink.

The are hence the deal, however I think everything else will remain same as they are all called establishments lol but the free movement will stop.

erico2k2:

Chey you dey go peep me ni, aha
Yeah I have visited in the past you know, I use to have a German colleague and we do weekends there and Poland back in the days B4 kids came, U know how E dey be Nah.But sure will very soon as I now get block days off work.
You know like I do the brits are very clever when it comes to finances and policy, they get it done right but it usually takes a long time. The are clever cookies.
Nigel is a strong character, he is Britain 1st.you know he told the Eu parliament that he had a better deal for them, for them to veto the application of Uk to extend the time frame beyond the end of this month re Brexit, and said that will force the Uk to agree on what deal they have in hand, guess what, the EU parliament did not have the balls to, they are going to grant an extension from all indication,, this led me to believe the EU is all talk.if you notice the Eu is very quiet these days

The Europeans are not overly joyous about Brexit. This is not a secret.

Nigel is a selfish hawk, just like Boris.

We hear what we are told. But as you know, there is news, and there is the news.

All these people including mrs May are fighting for political relevance and survival on the back of the average brit.

The EU is treading carefully but firmly regarding extensions. This is simple diplomacy.