Unlimited22:

Skewed. Possession stats, total shots stats, shots on goal stats need to be checked before this inference is made.

Provide those stats and see for yourself

raumdeuter:


This shows that Laporte in defense protects his keeper more than vvd defense

No it shows that City opponents do not touch ball

BlueRayDick:


This guy sef .
Shey na u be the head of Sports writers association for Obodo oyinbo ni? The way you dey really hammer on this English press ehn

No mind am. Him radio dey tuned to English channels more than Englishmen.

Spaxon:
If there's one man i see that has zeal its u o....
Baby how r u

same thing somebody told me two days ago. thanks anyway

08159799587... hit me up on WhatsApp ma. I hardly come online here..

Ibime:


Nobody is talking of Hazard every single year except on Nairaland where his legion of fanatics vs Raumdeuter make him the topic of discussion.

Hazard only entered running for PFA when Chelsea won the league, and is not to be compared to people whose performance was so outstanding, even when their team did not smell winning the league, they were overwhelming PFA winners.

Gareth Bale won PFA twice without his team sniffing or even in running for league, RVP won PFA with his team in fourphy position, Suarez won PFA without winning the league, and Salah won PFA without Liverpool even challenging for league title. These are players with outstanding and undeniable individual performance. . . . not "rising tide lifts all boats" player like Hazard who is nowhere in PFA when his team does not win league.

you always make claims without have facts to back them. If you put money now, you go lose.

Hazard has put a serious challenge for pfa player of the year before when his team did not win the league. Can you bet against that?

In 2013/2014, hazard won the pfa young player and came marginally second to an on-fire Suarez for the senior award. His team did not win the league. His team did not come second.

The hazard noise is too much and every one can see that it is raumdeuter that is the cause. You may not like the way hazard plays, but please don't tell half truths here to malign hazard. This is a chelsea thread and Hazard still remains a chelsea player. Therefore, we will not take any lie against the person of hazard.

Greatihex:
you always make claims without have facts to back them. If you put money now, you go lose.

Hazard has put a serious challenge for pfa player of the year before when his team did not win the league. Can you bet against that?

Sharrap. Being nominated does not mean serious challenge was put up. Suarez dusted Hazard in 2014. There was no serious challenge. On a normal day, he should not have been compared to Yaya that season sef. That's why he didn't finish top 3 in Football writers award.

Ibime:


Sharrap. Being nominated does not mean serious challenge was put up. Suarez dusted Hazard in 2014. There was no serious challenge. On a normal day, he should not have been compared to Yaya that season sef. That's why he didn't finish top 3 in Football writers award.

if Suarez dusted hazard who came second, what then will be said of the rest that were nominated?




So, for a player to be among 6 players nominated out of more than 300 players is not a credit? Mind you, his team did not win the league o?

Wait o, oga ibime, are you trying to rubbish the performance of hazard in that season?

Greatihex:
if Suarez dusted hazard who came second, what then will be said of the rest that were nominated?




So, for a player to be among 6 players nominated out of more than 300 players is not a credit? Mind you, his team did not win the league o?

He got nominated as the most prominent Chelsea player in a team that finished 3rd and fought for title. He was never in contention with Suarez who won European golden shoe. Nor was he in contention with Yaya truly who had a 24 goal season.

Back to the point of Ninjametahuman claiming all PFA players are compared to Hazard when outstanding PFA winners like Bale, Suarez, RVP, Salah broke records on their way to PFA when Hazard PFA was a mere "rising tide lifts all boats" situation.

Outstanding individual performance not being carried on by the hardwork of Costa and Fabregas

Which is why I call those awards polling booth awards

How can we equate the performance of Salah 2018 and Suarez 2014 to shakushaku 2015

Greatihex:
Wait o, oga ibime, are you trying to rubbish the performance of hazard in that season?

He's speaking out of annoyance

Ibime:


He got nominated as the most prominent Chelsea player in a team that finished 3rd and fought for title. He was never in contention with Suarez who won European golden shoe. Nor was he in contention with Yaya truly who had a 24 goal season.

Back to the point of Ninjametahuman claiming all PFA players are compared to Hazard when outstanding PFA winners like Bale, Suarez, RVP, Salah broke records on their way to PFA when Hazard PFA was a mere "rising tide lifts all boats" situation.

just look at the kind of ridiculous things you are saying. You are beginning to sound like raumdeuter now.

Like i said, you may not like the way hazard plays [which is not a bad thing] but please stop making ridiculous statements while trying to defend your other ridiculous statements.

What made a 22 year old player, who is having his second season in a club like Chelsea prominent?
What made a team without a reasonable striker fight for the title?

You guys should watch it. One day, if Kante is no longer at the top of his game, ibime will start telling us how Kante's pfa was as a result of 'rising tides lift all boats'.

That is how they have already started rubbishing the contribution of luiz during our 2017 winning season.

Ibime:


Here lies Boateng. A great defender in the years of our Lord, 2013 and 2014. His two most vocal supporters tried to eulogise him to the status of defenders renowned for over a decade of performance, but he relapsed on them before the age of 28.

Nothing wrong with having short prime so long as you use it to win all the important trophies for club and country.

Unlike the overrated ones like John Terryble who could not do anything outside park the bus defensive settings and shamelessly went to knack full kit when the team won with those same settings even in his absence

A40:
Nothing wrong with having short prime so long as you use it to win all the important trophies for club and country.

Unlike the overrated ones like John Terryble who could not do anything outside park the bus defensive settings and shamelessly went to knack full kit when the team won with those same settings even in his absence

Chelsea was fortunate that he was suspended for the CL final which they won. The other final he played he cost the team

The biggest Chelsea games of the past 15yrs are
vs Bayern Terry out,
vs Barca 2012 - Terry red carded,
v Man Utd 2008- Terry threw away the cup

Greatihex:
You guys should watch it. One day, if Kante is no longer at the top of his game, ibime will start telling us how Kante's pfa was as a result of 'rising tides lift all boats'.

That is how they have already started rubbishing the contribution of luiz during our 2017 winning season.

Defensive midfielder is not even supposed to be in contention for awards that attackers should be winning, therefore Kante has cleared his name forever.

Greatihex:
just look at the kind of ridiculous things you are saying. You are beginning to sound like raumdeuter now.

Like i said, you may not like the way hazard plays [which is not a bad thing] but please stop making ridiculous statements while trying to defend your other ridiculous statements.

What made a 22 year old player, who is having his second season in a club like Chelsea prominent?
What made a team without a reasonable striker fight for the title?

Don't digress from the original argument. Which PFA winner was compared to Hazard?

No doubt Hazard was good, but not great. Great was Suarez, RVP, Bale, Salah who broke records on their way to PFA, while Hazard just had a good season and won PFA due to rising tide that lifted his boat, unlike these other great PFA winners.

A40:
Nothing wrong with having short prime so long as you use it to win all the important trophies for club and country.

Yet during that prime, nobody crowned him top defender cos they knew he's just a carryalong in a once-in-a-generation German and Bayern team. Once that generation declined starting with the exits of Lahm and Schweinsteiger, Boateng showed his true self which led y'all to claim old age has caught up with him at just 28 years old.

Ibime:


Yet during that prime, nobody crowned him top defender cos they knew he's just a carryalong in a once-in-a-generation German and Bayern team. Once that generation declined starting with the exits of Lahm and Schweinsteiger, Boateng showed his true self which led y'all to claim old age has caught up with him at just 28 years old.

If top defender a chieftancy title that you are waiting for crown? Its to deliver trophies for your team which Boateng did in CL 2013 and world cup 2014 with outstanding final performances

Something Terry cannot point to in his entire carryon career. At 28yrs Boateng was taking his team to a Euro semi while Terry led his nation to crash in qualifiers

Ibime:


He got nominated as the most prominent Chelsea player in a team that finished 3rd and fought for title. He was never in contention with Suarez who won European golden shoe. Nor was he in contention with Yaya truly who had a 24 goal season.

Back to the point of Ninjametahuman claiming all PFA players are compared to Hazard when outstanding PFA winners like Bale, Suarez, RVP, Salah broke records on their way to PFA when Hazard PFA was a mere "rising tide lifts all boats" situation.

This is a very big lie, ninjametahuman originally claimed dat d best players at other EPL clubs have been compared to hazard in d past few years. He never made mention of all PFA players being compared to hazard.

He made mention of players like martial, mane, sterling, Sanchez, mahrez, salah e.t.c being compared to hazard at some point in d past few years...

Ibime:


Yet during that prime, nobody crowned him top defender cos they knew he's just a carryalong in a once-in-a-generation German and Bayern team. Once that generation declined starting with the exits of Lahm and Schweinsteiger, Boateng showed his true self which led y'all to claim old age has caught up with him at just 28 years old.

I'm sure it's also Lahm and Schweinsteiger that helped Boateng win German footballer of the year
and also helped him into the Euro All star team

Anyway nobody has time for polling booth awards. As even you have finally confessed this season after seeing the light. At the end of the day trophies is what stands you out as an elite defender not polling booth awards.

John Terryble is one of the few overrated defenders who never led his country past the quarterfinals of any major tournament. It was during his regime that a whole England failed to make it to the Euros

Ibime:


Don't digress from the original argument. Which PFA winner was compared to Hazard?

No doubt Hazard was good, but not great. Great was Suarez, RVP, Bale, Salah who broke records on their way to PFA, while Hazard just had a good season and won PFA due to rising tide that lifted his boat, unlike these other great PFA winners.

my post was not about your argument with the other guy about who was compared to hazard or not. I just wanted to counter your claim of hazard getting any chance at pfa only when his team wins the league.


BTW, getting nominated for pfa 4 out of 6 seasons in EPL is not beans.

Greatihex:

BTW, getting nominated for pfa 4 out of 6 seasons in EPL is not beans.

He is about to have only 1 nomination in his last 4 seasons. A players y'all claim is Baba after Messi and Ronaldo. Spits. When has Messi and Ronaldo missed out on nomination in the last 10 years? Rising tide footballer.

Ibime:


He is about to have only 1 nomination in his last 4 seasons. A players y'all claim is Baba after Messi and Ronaldo. Spits. When has Messi and Ronaldo missed out on nomination in the last 10 years? Rising tide footballer.

which player has been close to messi and Ronaldo in the past 10 yrs?

Greatihex:
which player has been close to messi and Ronaldo in the past 10 yrs?

Is he competing against Messi and Ronaldo in EPL where he will have only one PFA nomination in 4 years by the end of this season?

Ibime:


Is he competing against Messi and Ronaldo in EPL where he will have only one PFA nomination in 4 years by the end of this season?

have they released the list of nominated players?

“close to Messi and Ronaldo”

"Claude Makelele on a recent RMC interview speaking about a ‘chat’ he had with Ronaldinho - “I would rather you come at me & dribble past me properly. But with all your PlayStation tricks, I’m going to put you in hospital! What did he do? He gave me the ball & apologised"

raumdeuter:


At age of 28 boateng was leading his country to euro semi

He must be the choir leader, leading them in praise and worship.

Halleluyah somebody!!!

airmark:


He must be the choir leader, leading them in praise and worship.

Halleluyah somebody!!!

Leading from the back

airmark:

He must be the choir leader, leading them in praise and worship.
Halleluyah somebody!!!

lol

I took one month sabbatical lol and you guys are still arguing hazard ,i can't wait for the guy to retire or leave Chelsea I wonder which player will be next,okay let me start that one now.
Ndidi>kante.