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Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 7:25pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQSZY1Zp-c "Why not allow homosexuals bust your anus because my girlfriend or wife wears my clothes." - by alBHAGDADI: 1:24pm On Apr 01 What an unintelligient comment to make. Your common sense is 0 inches long. The thing about common sense is that, its like deodorant, people who need it most never use it. 1/ So as far as you're concerned, gay persons are like a piece of junk to you, right? 2/ Is the church, a building or organic? 2 Likes |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 7:31pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: You really want me to point out my numerous responses you only cropped and answered? What a shameless hypocrite you are... You've been trounced right, left and centre and this is the deflection crap you could come up with? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 7:32pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Gays are worse than a piece of junk |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 7:37pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
OkCornel: When I crop out your post, I don't throw them away. I only crop them out to answer them separately. As for you, what you did is crop out and dump away as if it never existed all because you could stand the truth in it. Look whose been getting schooled all day talking |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 7:44pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: When you keep repeating the same crap all the time, what difference would it make when I keep repeating myself? Like I mentioned earlier, you're too eager to give yourself validation for something that obviously makes you look more silly... If we bring up that issue again, you'll begin to see the folly in praising yourself too quickly. My next post comes up shortly to show your blank claims 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 7:51pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
OkCornel: I will only reply you henceforth if you answer my questions which I've been asking all day. Are you born again? What does it mean to be born agai |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 7:51pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: This was the part of your post which I ignored because you back tracked and corrected yourself from this initial blunder you made below, where you clearly claimed the gentiles before Jesus did not know God, that's why they served false gods alBHAGDADI: I clearly told you that the likes of Job and Enoch were gentiles who were close to God...and you were shifting the goal post shamelessly to tell us there was nothing like Jews or Gentiles prior to when Israel was formed... I asked you if Job from the Land of Uz was a gentile...and up till now you are mute... You see why I said you're too eager to give yourself credit where there is none? 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 7:53pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Deflection tactics all day long. Do you have a short memory? Were you not the same person accusing me of being a satanist on another of your threads? Guy shift if you have nothing sensible left to say... 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 8:06pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:1/ Are you saying that, if one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, you will then see them to be worse than a piece of junk? 2/ Or maybe say, one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to them that there are worse than a piece of junk? 3/ Is Alan Turning and/or Leo Varadkar, just to mention these two ony, worse than a piece of junk? 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 8:21pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
OkCornel: Lack of comprehension is killing you. There was nothing like Jews and gentiles before the Jewish people came to being. If I say the gentiles didn't know God which made them serve false gods, shouldn't you use your brain to know that Job was an exception because he served the True God? .What was our argument? You claimed the gentiles of old had the law written in their hearts, which is wrong cos I showed you that it was after the time of Jesus that the gentiles started having the law in their hearts as promised by God. Before then, God ministered his laws to them. All those who served God before and during the time of the Jews were called by God. They didn't just wake up and started worshiping a God they never heard of. Job must have encountered God from the Israelites whom he must have seen the laws from the Israelites and obeyed them as seen in verse one of the book of Job. He obeyed the laws and served God, that's why God called him his servant in verse 8. How do you serve a God whose laws you never knew? He simply got the Mosaic laws from Jesus just as the Greeks in the time of Jesus who came to worship at the temple. Job never had the law in his heart, otherwise it would mean God lied when he said in the time after Jesus Christ is when he would write his laws in the hearts of men. If Job didn't have the law in his heart, it simply means he got it from the Jews. It clearly shows he didn't just know God on his own. He didn't just have faith in God on his own and decided to do the will of God. He simply heard about God from godly people and obeyed because faith cometh by hearing. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. He heard the word of God, he didn't have it in his heart already |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 8:22pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Are you saying that you love gays? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 8:24pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
OkCornel: Answer the simple questions and stop applying the tactics you are accusing me of Are you born again? What does it mean to be born again? Will you admit you don't know the answers to the questions? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Gays are human beings, so yes, I love easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour. Now please, answer my three earlier asked questions 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 8:28pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Why should I answer someone who loves the people God hates? Shove your questions in your anus. |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 8:30pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: After you've been trounced on this thread, this is the card you come up with? Absolutely disgusting... Go and brush up on your Bible studies and stop spreading heresies up and down... 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 8:33pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:1/ Can I take it then that, if one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, you will then see them to be worse than a piece of junk and would not love them, huh? 2/ Or maybe say, one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to them that there are worse than a piece of junk and so thereby would not love them, huh? 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 8:37pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
OkCornel:This is no card. These are separate questions you are expected to answer just as I've been answering yours. The energy you spent in creating this post would have been enough to answer the question. I'll concluded you have no knowledge of the answers to the questions that's why you can't answer them. Okay, I accept defeat. Oya answer the questions Are you born again? What does it mean to be born again? Will you admit you don't know the answers to the questions? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 8:49pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:"Why not allow homosexuals bust your anus because my girlfriend or wife wears my clothes." - by alBHAGDADI: 1:24pm On Apr 01 "Shove your questions in your anus" - by alBHAGDADI: 8:28pm on Apr 02 You are asking if someone like OkCornel is born again or not, when you obviously dont know what born again is all about. You are an ignoranus, no wonder you are unable to stop thinking about other people's anus 2 Likes |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 9:03pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Why do you keep on lying shamelessly? Show us where I claimed the gentiles of old had the law written in their hearts! Ignore this part and confirm you've been lying shamelessly here. alBHAGDADI: You see the part of your quote I bolded? You just keep shooting yourself in the foot. When Seth's wife gave birth to Enos in Genesis 4 v 26; what happened thereafter? 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord Please let us see how you twist your way out of this one. So those men who called up God after Enos was birthed were all called by God isn't it alBHAGDADI: You see why you keep displaying your ignorance and unfound assumptions without any proof whatsoever? Anyways, you don't need to look too far; Read the conversation that went on between Elihu, Job and his other friends. Job 32 v 8 answers your question. 5 When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled. 6 And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion. 7 I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom. 8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. 9 Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment. alBHAGDADI: Another totally unverifiable assertion. If you're asked to bring biblical or historical evidence to back this up, you have absolutely nothing! Only if you did a little research on the authorship of the book of Job...you won't be making this funny assumption here. alBHAGDADI: Let me ask you a simple question (note that I am asking a question); If these righteous men prior to the time of Moses got the "Laws of God" by hearing from God, and they committed these Laws to their memory (remember you mentioned earlier that these "Laws of God" were not documented). Are these Laws written in their heart? Yes or No What is the difference between someone who hears the "Laws of God", memorizes them and obeys them & one whom the Law of God is written in their hearts? 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by OkCornel(m): 9:09pm On Apr 02, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Again, these are questions that have nothing to do with these thread, and you're not the first person to resort to this after they've seen their own errors they find difficult to swallow... 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 6:03am On Apr 03, 2019 |
OkCornel: Another wasted post that would have been used to answer the questions. Are you born again? What does it mean to be born again? Will you admit you don't know the answers to the questions? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Nobody: 6:51am On Apr 03, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:After fooling around in confusion to defend what they don't understand,the next place to hide their face in shame is born again. They thought God's holy spirit is for any Dick and Harry with self esteem,instead of ascertaining those CHOSEN by God to enlighten them. Daniel 12:8-10 Well what is the reason for the question? It's to silence whoever noticed the nonsense they're spewing. So 'if you're not born again,you can't understand it' but who told the confused guy that he is born again in the first place? Did he truly know the meaning of born again? What brought about the idea of born again? Can he distinguish between an ancient faithful servant of God, born again Christian, and a Christian? If a Christian is not born again,where will he spend eternity? Well alBHAGDADI can see the word 'born again' in the Bible and he knows it's all about people like him 2 Likes |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 7:21am On Apr 03, 2019 |
Maximus69:It's like you know this person very well and know the person more than OkCornel, I and others. Any trick in the book will do, just so to validate, spread and promote obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. 2 Likes |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Nobody: 8:13am On Apr 03, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:NO Sir, i don't know him from Adam. All i noticed is the desperation in him to defend what God has REMOVED from the system to set equity amongst his worshipers globally! The laws God gave Israelites could be justified because they were all slaves,so they're all EQUAL. No class amongst them, they're starting afresh, that is why they all answered Moses before God gave them the laws 'all that Jehovah requires we are ready to do' Exodus 19:8 But God understands man's condition than man himself. Psalms 103:14 Isaiah 48:17,18 Jeremiah 10:23 That is why he will not push the same kind of rules to people who already have class in their midst. A TRUE Christian can't have peace of mind while doing what is wrong so God asked them to keep just few necessary things! Act 15:28,29 When our first parents were perfect,they had just one single rule, when God introduced himself to the imperfect children of Jacob he gave them over six hundred rules,when Christianity was established[to bring us back to perfection] the rules dropped to just few, don't be surprised that God's own people will still graduate to the former perfect state when the rule will become just one again as it was in the beginning! Satan deceived Adam and Eve that God is not giving them freedom but today under man's rule[manipulated by Satan] we now have thousands of laws. What people like alBHAGDADI failed to realise is that God's children have freedom that's why their own rules will ever continue to diminish! Mark 12:29-31 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 8:22am On Apr 03, 2019 |
Maximus69:You sire, are a god to make this beautiful and profound emboldened statements. Too much I cant just be emboldening every line 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Nobody: 8:44am On Apr 03, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:NO! Sir i'm just a Christian,not even a born again! If only you can also learn from my teachers, you will know that for a certainty God has chosen some people by means of his holy spirit to teach others. They are the REAL born again Christians teaching us what to do in this endtime. God's judgment is fast approaching and whoever fails to recognise these people will be condemned, Jesus said he will classify many as GOATS all because of their failure to acknowledge these people, Jesus even called them 'his brothers'! Matthew 25:31-46 Majority of mankind have vilified them right from the time their presence was made manifest,people also continue to vilify us too for following them,but we have come to know that they are the REAL spiritual Jews foretold by Prophet Zechariah @ 8:23 God bless you Sir! 2 Likes |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 9:04am On Apr 03, 2019 |
Maximus69:Sire do you believe in who Jesus Christ is? Do you admit the existence of the power of God and acknowledge the demonstration of the power of God? If your reply to both questions is yes, then Nwanne, you are according to scripture, born again then. Also if you know right from wrong, you then also are a god. Now, you are better off being born again than being christian. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know this. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Nobody: 9:39am On Apr 03, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Hmmm. There is a lot to learn Sir! You must first know what being a Christian means? Why are so many different religious groups claiming Christians? What is the meaning of born again? How can one become born again? What are the attributes of a born again Christian that makes him differ from other Christians? And where are they going to spend eternity? Then you will know what makes a Christian like me say things that makes you marvel! As for god,that is another topic entirely. Why not meet my teachers first to know how this divine wisdom is been imparted into the hearts of men like me? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 11:41am On Apr 03, 2019 |
Maximus69:I can be of service with this. Even when you sugar coat it and/or try to remove the sting out of the word, what does the word nigger, mean and means to you? Well think of the word Christian too in that light and circumstances. Maximus69:Delusion(s) is the reason Maximus69:The meaning of born again means born from above. One is born again, if like Nicodemus, one recognises Jesus Christ for whom He is and if one acknowledges the power of God in addition to admitting the demonstration and/or display of the power of God Maximus69:The fundamental attributes have already being mentioned above. Born again will spend eternity in the kingdom of heaven Maximus69:I marvel you are a Christian, cos if you properly read the Bible, you won't yourself call yourself a Christian. Neither of the disciples nor the apostles called themselves Christians, it was the mischievous people of Antioch, known for giving people nicknames, that first called the believers that word Maximus69:Do you remember or recall the exact conversation that transpired between the serpent and Eve? Man, became gods, knowing good and bad, the moment after eating of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil Maximus69:You need only one Teacher that will guide you into all truths and tell you things nwanne. 1 Like |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 1:45pm On Apr 03, 2019 |
Maximus69: Why not answer the questions instead of this unnecessary rant? Are you born again? What does it mean to be born again? Will you admit you don't know the answers to the questions? |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI: 1:51pm On Apr 03, 2019 |
The two fools up there are so confused that they are arguing with each other just seconds after agreeing with each other on their false idea of what born again means. I think it's best someone should open a thread for the discussion on born again since Okcornel is too scared to his pants to answer the question here Please mention me when you do. |
Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by MuttleyLaff: 2:03pm On Apr 03, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:It is only a certified and bonafide fool that calls other people fools 1 Like |
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