gustav25:

All please bookmark this

alexistaiwo:
Like I once told a pastor friend of mine.
Salvation is a paradox.

If our fate has been predestined and hell is real.
It ain't our fault if we end up there, the blame should lie entirely at the creator's door unless the creator doesn't already how we will end up which will make the concept of him being all knowing null and void.


What will it be?

TissuePaper:
please can you give me the download link?

JeromeBlack:




Kai. This Kazeem keeps surprising me. You get small sense sha.

Actually, what you are saying is actually a contradiction between omniscience and freewill.

alexistaiwo:
Who is that person always sharing hot-spot for you to come online every morning?

When the person goes to work now, you will go offline till tomorrow morning

JeromeBlack:


Look who is talking, you that is defrauding your mobile network for free data.

You were daft enough to post a pic for us on this thread

alexistaiwo:
This forum is cursed

Freebie stopped four days after I posted the information.


I know that jealousy made you report to the network customer service

JeromeBlack:


Good for you but I am not a broke and bitter person such that I would report your free data.

I am on a monthly unlimited plan.

alexistaiwo:
Everyone is a multi millionaire on social media, why should you be any different?

Monthly unlimited data plan knock off your head there!

alexistaiwo:
Like I once told a pastor friend of mine.
Salvation is a paradox.

If our fate has been predestined and hell is real.
It ain't our fault if we end up there, the blame should lie entirely at the creator's door unless the creator doesn't already how we will end up which will make the concept of him being all knowing null and void.


What will it be?

mekaprime:


First what is the biblical understanding of predestination??
The words “predestined” as translated in the Scriptures is from the Greek word proorizo , which carries the meaning of “determining beforehand,” “ordaining,” “deciding ahead of time.”

In Romans 8:29-30, God predetermined that certain individuals would be conformed to the likeness of His Son, be called, justified, and glorified. Yes, God predetermines that certain individuals will be saved.(Matthew 24:22, 31; Mark 13:20, 27; Romans 8:33, 9:11, 11:5-7).

But you saying its not one's fault if they end up in hell since God chooses who to save, get one thing right here, no one deserves to be saved, as we have all sinned (Romans 3:23) and are all worthy of eternal punishment (Romans 6:23). As a result, God is justified if he allowed all of us to spend eternity in hell. However, he chose to save some people & this isn't unfair, as we deserve nothing from him.
An illustration would be a man randomly handing out money to five people in a crowd of twenty. Would the fifteen people who did not receive money be upset? Probably so. Do they have a right to be upset? No, they do not. Why? Because the man did not owe anyone money. He simply decided to be gracious to some.

You question being:
If God is choosing who is to be saved, shouldn't it be his fault if ones isnt chosen & goes to hell??
The answer is technically NO because the Bible says that all who believes in Christ will be saved. So to those of us who weren't chosen, the choice as to salvation or condemnation lies with us, and the bible never describes God rejecting anyone who believes in Him or turning away anyone who is seeking Him (Deuteronomy 4:29).
In the mystery of God, he predestines who will be saved, and those of us who weren't chosen, must choose Christ in order to be saved...I rest my case.

JeromeBlack:



An unlimited data plan ranges from 18,000 to 20,000 naira monthly.

Is not too much. Don't be a bush man

alexistaiwo:
Screenshot of your data bundle or you know the drill

oyaskii:
Pumped up for the Joker movie, Joaquin Phoenix my man, not that nonsense jared Leto served us in suicide squad.

alexistaiwo:
I present a simple case, stop contradicting yourself.

What exactly are you trying to say?
State logical explanations, don't quote bible for me.
This is why I always avoid religious discussions.

mekaprime:

What am simply saying is that all our faith are predestined, but not on a single path. To God, our faith is being played out as two sides to a coin,which represents our choices based on freewill to choose between right or wrong & the resulting consequence attached to both sides, hell/heaven.
So if based on your freewill, the choice one make lands one in hell, it is totally of his own doing & not of Gods.
Safe to say that God knows all but doesn't peg a definite possibility to our faith, we call the shots & out of Gods list of possible outcomes we get the reward of our choice.

olu4life:
HOTEL MUMBAI - 9/10... That movie is intenseeee... Goddamn, i was at the edge of my seat. Now that's a movie. Heart skipped severally mehn. Chai, the movie burst my brain

alexistaiwo:
You are saying that God doesn't know which side of the coin we will choose?

mekaprime:


First what is the biblical understanding of predestination??
The words “predestined” as translated in the Scriptures is from the Greek word proorizo , which carries the meaning of “determining beforehand,” “ordaining,” “deciding ahead of time.”

In Romans 8:29-30, God predetermined that certain individuals would be conformed to the likeness of His Son, be called, justified, and glorified. Yes, God predetermines that certain individuals will be saved.(Matthew 24:22, 31; Mark 13:20, 27; Romans 8:33, 9:11, 11:5-7).

But you saying its not one's fault if they end up in hell since God chooses who to save, get one thing right here, no one deserves to be saved, as we have all sinned (Romans 3:23) and are all worthy of eternal punishment (Romans 6:23). As a result, God is justified if he allowed all of us to spend eternity in hell. However, he chose to save some people & this isn't unfair, as we deserve nothing from him.
An illustration would be a man randomly handing out money to five people in a crowd of twenty. Would the fifteen people who did not receive money be upset? Probably so. Do they have a right to be upset? No, they do not. Why? Because the man did not owe anyone money. He simply decided to be gracious to some.[/b[

You question being:
If God is choosing who is to be saved, shouldn't it be his fault if ones isnt chosen & goes to hell??
The answer is technically NO because the Bible says that [b]all who believes in Christ will be saved. So to those of us who weren't chosen, the choice as to salvation or condemnation lies with us, and the bible never describes God rejecting anyone who believes in Him or turning away anyone who is seeking Him (Deuteronomy 4:29).
In the mystery of God, he predestines who will be saved, and those of us who weren't chosen, must choose Christ in order to be saved...I rest my case.

Galapagous:
Triangle 7.5/10 seeing this movie I thought am watching another version of coherence just turns out to be better.
Lady blood fight 7.0/10... Nice movie
About to see
Hotel Mumbai.., triple frontier and adjustment bureau.

vampire2020:
I don't need money Biko , send me a pm

DandeNumeruno:
Hotel Mumbai 11/10

all I can say is this movie was brutal like goddamn!

KoiceReloaded:
Shazam

As a casual movie goer, I've only seen a couple of new movies this year, and, have regretted them wholeheartedly, esp with the economy being what it is. If I'm gonna throw away my money, it'd better be on something meaningful. Anyhoo, after much mental gymnastic with myself, I agreed to give Shazam a shot since it has good ratings and reviews and whatnot, and man... THAT. WAS. FUN.

The movie has the best comedy I've seen from DC in like... ever. Really an A- stuff. Glad to see my guy, Zack Levi finally snagging a big role, and blowing it out of the water. He has really come a long way since "Chuck". Also, all the jokes were hits. The part where Billy and Mark Strong were yelling across a mile of open air had me dying.

I hope DC continues with this light-hearted tone like they did with Aquaman as well. I much preferred them to the darker tones of their previous titles, with the exception of TDK trilogy of course. DC is certainly on a winning streak atm. I'm hyped for "Joker" more than ever. September can't come soon enough.

8/10 btw.