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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 5:09pm On Apr 06, 2019
larride:


Maddison
Ceballos
Van De Beek
O’connor hi
Adams Ounas
Aldeweireid

Come here Kagawa, I want to ask you something angry

Aldeweireid isn't unknown. Or you don't know him?
Anyway, I know a talent when I see one. I'm not so sure of O'Connor but I would love to see him tried out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 5:22pm On Apr 06, 2019
It's even strange to see how the small Ounas is so strong on the ball both on the ground and in the air. He's foul tempered too. Always mouthing off at the opponent in every match. I love the passion. Wish we can get this lad than this hyped up Sancho we are chasing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 5:51pm On Apr 06, 2019
Zagadou is stinking up the joint against Bayern.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:53pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:
Zagadou is stinking up the joint against Bayern.

What a disastrous player! He literally gifted Bayern Lewandowski’s second goal. German Efe Sodje grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 5:55pm On Apr 06, 2019
Leyqute:


What a disastrous player! He literally gifted Bayern Lewandowski’s second goal. German Efe Sodje grin

He has looked jittery and unsure since the start of the game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 6:00pm On Apr 06, 2019
Not his day. He was good the last time out. Anyone could have an off day.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 6:07pm On Apr 06, 2019
The whole Dortmund team looked off as well. They need a creative midfielder in the midfield. They have only the washed up gotze on the bench. Why they sold off kagawa is still a misery. Foolish coach.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 6:12pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:
The whole Dortmund team looked off as well. They need a creative midfielder in the midfield. They have only the washed up gotze on the bench. Why they sold off kagawa is still a misery. Foolish coach.

This match up looks overwhelming for the lads, they need to just keep their composure else the score line will ballon. Dahoud should have put them ahead with that attempt that kept Neuer rooted but he got the post.
Zagadou is only 19 with good upsides but this is not the first game he has looked jittery and unsure even though I will admit they are missing Hakimi but Zagadou is far from a top defender at this point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 6:12pm On Apr 06, 2019
I talk am!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 6:18pm On Apr 06, 2019
Bayern going rampage on Dortmund. Lord have mercy. grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:21pm On Apr 06, 2019
Leyqute:


What a disastrous player! He literally gifted Bayern Lewandowski’s second goal. German Efe Sodje grin

German?

LMAO
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 6:22pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:


This match up looks overwhelming for the lads, they need to just keep their composure else the score line will ballon. Dahoud should have put them ahead with that attempt that kept Neuer rooted but he got the post.
Zagadou is only 19 with good upsides but this is not the first game he has looked jittery and unsure even though I will admit they are missing Hakimi but Zagadou is far from a top defender at this point.

That was why I wanted him beside Toby Aldeweireid who's much more experienced than him. I know he's still young but there's no use in buying several old defenders when we could have one experienced head and a young one .

Hakimi is good going forward but rubbish in defence. He wouldn't have helped anything. Likewise Diallo who's at his best as a central back. Everything is just off in that defence as well as the midfield which is too defensive without a creative midfielder.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 6:25pm On Apr 06, 2019
Leyqute:


What a disastrous player! He literally gifted Bayern Lewandowski’s second goal. German Efe Sodje grin

Zagadou is French.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:32pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:


This match up looks overwhelming for the lads, they need to just keep their composure else the score line will ballon. Dahoud should have put them ahead with that attempt that kept Neuer rooted but he got the post.
Zagadou is only 19 with good upsides but this is not the first game he has looked jittery and unsure even though I will admit they are missing Hakimi but Zagadou is far from a top defender at this point.

Losing Alcacer and Guerrero to injury affected them, If you want to play Bayern you need offensive weapons to peg us back else you will lose

Zagadou is just too mediocre and loses composure everytime

And not every big and young defender is going to amount to much.

At this point, I think Dayot Upamecano is ahead of Zagadou
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:37pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:


Zagadou is French.

Thanks.

Dude is awful though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 6:38pm On Apr 06, 2019
raumdeuter:


Losing Alcacer and Guerrero to injury affected them, If you want to play Bayern you need offensive weapons to peg us back else you will lose

Zagadou is just too mediocre and loses composure everytime

And not every big and young defender is going to amount to much.

At this point, I think Dayot Upamecano is ahead of Zagadou

Lol. He's been better than Diallo this season. He's just 19yrs and in his first full flight. At his age, boateng was still pushing wheel barrow.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 6:38pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:


That was why I wanted him beside Toby Aldeweireid who's much more experienced than him. I know he's still young but there's no use in buying several old defenders when we could have one experienced head and a young one .

Hakimi is good going forward but rubbish in defence. He wouldn't have helped anything. Likewise Diallo who's at his best as a central back. Everything is just off in that defence as well as the midfield which is too defensive without a creative midfielder.

BVB did not arrive the summit of the Bundesliga because of their defensive prowess, if anything they have conceded loads of goals but found ways to win games and that is why I think calling Zagadou the next big thing is kind of an exxergeration at this time. BVB’s offense is predicated on pushing from the wing backs and that is how players like Sancho, Reus have thrived this season and that is where they are missing a player like Hakimi who like we agree is an offensive wing back that would have pushed Coman back.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 6:42pm On Apr 06, 2019
raumdeuter:


Losing Alcacer and Guerrero to injury affected them, If you want to play Bayern you need offensive weapons to peg us back else you will lose

Zagadou is just too mediocre and loses composure everytime

And not every big and young defender is going to amount to much.

At this point, I think Dayot Upamecano is ahead of Zagadou
BVB were not going to control possession or dominate this game especially when you consider it is away from home. BVB were going to rely on soaking the pressure and then hit Bayern with counter attacks.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:44pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:


Lol. He's been better than Diallo this season. He's just 19yrs and in his first full flight. At his age, boateng was still pushing wheel barrow.

You always let yourself down everytime at 19yrs Boateng was doing great in Hamburg defence which earned his a 2010 world cup slot and a transfer to Man City

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:47pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:

BVB were not going to control possession or dominate this game especially when you consider it is away from home. BVB were going to rely on soaking the pressure and then hit Bayern with counter attacks.

They are lacking offensive weapons. Reus and Sancho are the only attacking players they have.

Dahoud Witsel and Delaney are CMs who Favre played to block the midfield

but Bayern are not going through the midfield only that they are not worrying Bayern defenders and putting us under pressure
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:48pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:


BVB did not arrive the summit of the Bundesliga because of their defensive prowess, if anything they have conceded loads of goals but found ways to win games and that is why I think calling Zagadou the next big thing is kind of an exxergeration at this time. BVB’s offense is predicated on pushing from the wing backs and that is how players like Sancho, Reus have thrived this season and that is where they are missing a player like Hakimi who like we agree is an offensive wing back that would have pushed Coman back.

This is close to what I am saying, They need to give Bayern defence something to worry about and not just play to contain
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 6:50pm On Apr 06, 2019
Roland17:


BVB did not arrive the summit of the Bundesliga because of their defensive prowess, if anything they have conceded loads of goals but found ways to win games and that is why I think calling Zagadou the next big thing is kind of an exxergeration at this time. BVB’s offense is predicated on pushing from the wing backs and that is how players like Sancho, Reus have thrived this season and that is where they are missing a player like Hakimi who like we agree is an offensive wing back that would have pushed Coman back.

I know Zagadou is young and isn't the finish product hence why I wanted another defender apart from him.. what I love about him is the fact that he's left footed and good in the air. I don't know what happened today though. But he was overawed by the occasion. He was Dortmund's best defender in the last game against Bayern. I guess having Diallo beside him in the left back role looked off for him. Maybe the coach should have gone for a 3-man defence. I don't know.

Anyway, I think the player they missed the most is lead striker to push on while Reus drop behind to create the creativity they need. Paco alcazar is their biggest match winner anyday.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 7:00pm On Apr 06, 2019
raumdeuter:


You always let yourself down everytime at 19yrs Boateng was doing great in Hamburg defence which earned his a 2010 world cup slot and a transfer to Man City

Lol. Don't you mean Boateng was an average full back who couldn't be trusted in a central back role which has much more responsibility than the full back where you go all out and out of position without no care in the world? At 19, Boateng was playing for Hamburg as a fullback, Zagadou was playing for a top Dortmund side with much more responsibility than the scare crow of a defender you champion. Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:10pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:


Lol. Don't you mean Boateng was an average full back who couldn't be trusted in a central back role which has much more responsibility than the full back where you go all out and out of position without no care in the world?. Boateng was playing for Hamburg as a fullback, Zagadou was playing for a top Dortmund side with much more responsibility than the scare crow of a defender you champion. Lol

As a youth Boateng was played all over the defence from CB LB and RB because he was that talented. At the 2009 Euro U21 he was paired with Howedes in CB he made his German debut same year

Boateng was a Euro U21 winner, World cup, and CL winner all before 25yrs

What will Zagadou be remembered for at that age?

Zagadou has now been removed for a skinny DM because Zagadou was a disaster
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 7:17pm On Apr 06, 2019
raumdeuter:


They are lacking offensive weapons. Reus and Sancho are the only attacking players they have.

Dahoud Witsel and Delaney are CMs who Favre played to block the midfield

but Bayern are not going through the midfield only that they are not worrying Bayern defenders and putting us under pressure

Even if they had hakimi and Guerrero, I doubt Dortmund would win anything from the match because they lacked someone who can lead the attack and there's no one to release the wing without Reus operating behind. Same thing happened against Spurs. Hakimi and Guerrero would only be pushed backward and their defensive aspect of the game is just as poor and even worse.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 7:25pm On Apr 06, 2019
raumdeuter:


As a youth Boateng was played all over the defence from CB LB and RB because he was that talented. At the 2009 Euro U21 he was paired with Howedes in CB he made his German debut same year

Boateng was a Euro U21 winner, World cup, and CL winner all before 25yrs

What will Zagadou be remembered for at that age?

Zagadou has now been removed for a skinny DM because Zagadou was a disaster

Lol. We are talking about their 19yrs stage. Come down from your horse.

Fact is at 19, Boateng was a disfunctiomal full back playing for a pathetic club as Hamburg where his mistake wasn't microscoped in the full glare of the world. No one cares if Hamburg loses by 8-0 while boateng was there because no one cares about the pathetic club in the first place unlike a top Dortmund side where Zagadou play as a central back. Moreover, boateng couldn't even be trusted with a responsibility of the central back role because he was that pathetic. Thank God for Dante and Hummel in his life. Lol.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:


Lol. We are talking about their 19yrs stage. Come down from your horse.

Fact is at 19, Boateng was a disfunctiomal full back playing for a pathetic club as Hamburg where his mistake wasn't microscoped in the full glare of the world. No one cares if Hamburg loses by 8-0 while boateng was there because no one cares about the pathetic club in the first place unlike a top Dortmund side where Zagadou play as a central back. Moreover, boateng couldn't even be trusted with a responsibility of the central back role because he was that pathetic. Thank God for Dante and Hummel in his life. Lol.

Boatengs performance at 19 laid the groundwork for his entire career his NT career, move to City, and later Bayern and win CL and world cups

Can you swear now that Zagadou will win all these in his career?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagd10: 7:54pm On Apr 06, 2019
raumdeuter:


Boatengs performance at 19 laid the groundwork for his entire career his NT career, move to City, and later Bayern and win CL and world cups

Can you swear now that Zagadou will win all these in his career?

Lol. Laid the groundwork indeed. No one knows the trajectory of a young player but the truth is Zagadou has much more responsibility and plays for a top Dortmund side at 19 while boateng was playing as a full back for Hamburg side. The reason you're criticising Zagadou today is because he's playing for Dortmund. If he was playing for Hamburg, you wouldn't care about his mistake nor put it under a microscope like you are doing. No one did that with boateng at 19. Besides, boateng wasn't given such responsibility as a central back.

It just look funny to see you lashing at a 19yrs old who's been doing quite well just because he made a mistake today. I could also show you an Iranian player destroying boateng in his prime but this is just Zagadou at 19. Shame on you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:32pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:


Lol. Laid the groundwork indeed. No one knows the trajectory of a young player but the truth is Zagadou has much more responsibility and plays for a top Dortmund side at 19 while boateng was playing as a full back for Hamburg side. The reason you're criticising Zagadou today is because he's playing for Dortmund. If he was playing for Hamburg, you wouldn't care about his mistake nor put it under a microscope like you are doing. No one did that with boateng at 19. Besides, boateng wasn't given such responsibility as a central back.

It just look funny to see you lashing at a 19yrs old who's been doing quite well just because he made a mistake today. I could also show you an Iranian player destroying boateng in his prime but this is just Zagadou at 19. Shame on you

Will you stake that in 6yrs time when Zagadou is 25, he would have won the world cup, CL and be a regular starter at a top 5 club in Europe

You can stake 2M to be collected in 2025
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:44pm On Apr 06, 2019
This guy has come again with the FM players he wants United to sign. Ceballos. Zagadat. Zagadis. grin grin

Wasn't that how we got into this mess buying flash in the pan players like Depay, Schneiderlin etc..

Lul. When u play FM for 20 straight seasons and you believe u know what it takes for real life clubs to succeed. grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 8:45pm On Apr 06, 2019
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:48pm On Apr 06, 2019
Kagd10:


Aldeweireid isn't unknown. Or you don't know him?
Anyway, I know a talent when I see one. I'm not so sure of O'Connor but I would love to see him tried out.
United is in a precarious situation and need to buy consistent performers but u just want us to buy an unknown O'Connor so u can see something. grin

I'm still yet to see any of the players u hype turn out to be hot cakes. The Harops, The Pooles, The Van Der Beaks etc. Even if u were a professional scout, clubs wouldn't appoint you to scout U-13s.

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