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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:58pm On Apr 06, 2019
elyte89:



Dis is from u shocked...wow,I no believe o,die hard nacho fan grin grin

Nothing like die hard. Anyone who truly loves a player should be able to call him out when his career is dwindling thanks to his mistakes.

I no fit siddon dey deceive myself say hope dey, because as it stands, the future is bleak and Kelechi is the only one that can shine torch in this darkness. So, if he has to stumble, fall, get knocked over, for him to on that torch, make e stumble. Giving him a spot on the AFCON team will be encouraging laziness, and a sore lack of ambition.

Pikin wey dem no flog until e cry, no go know say wetin e do, no good

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:59pm On Apr 06, 2019
andrew444:


I love nacho and am a big fan of him

Not sure he will go to afcon,but if e go na him lick and good for him

If osimhen miss afcon I won't be happy with rohr

Osimhen is going to the AFCON
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 8:01pm On Apr 06, 2019
safarigirl:
h must be doing somehing awfully wrong to no be in contention for reasonabl game time.

This isn't about Pep, or Puel, or Rogers....talent and hard work mwver hides. Even if a player is unfortunate enough to be plague by managers that don't rate him, if he makes immense contributions on the pitch, even the most hardheaded manager will have no choice, but to give him playing time.

For someone to go through three managers and none of them found him an asset, haha....he is either not pulling his socks up, or his village people are working on overtime


I support you, he should work hard, and if he still didn't see game time, should move out on loan, by borrowing a leaf from Musa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:07pm On Apr 06, 2019
do4luv14:



I support you, he should work hard, and if he still didn't see game time, should move out on loan, by borrowing a leaf from Musa

How do you know he is not working hard?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 8:11pm On Apr 06, 2019
Icon4s:


How do you know he is not working hard?


y is he not getting game time,

ok let me agrees, he is working hard, he should move out on loan for game time,
and pls, ah no wan hear say nah system ooo grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 8:20pm On Apr 06, 2019
Icon4s:


How do you know he is not working hard?

1. Still can't trap the ball properly till now as a professional footballer. Which is elementary.

2.Poor skill set.

3. Avoids his right foot on the ball as if it's plagued. He even scored a goal raising his right foot up in order to use the left foot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:21pm On Apr 06, 2019
Icon4s:


Don't you think his lack of game time is the competition he has ahead of him? That is Vardy. That guy is not difficult to displace from that Leicester team.

TheGoodJoe, what do you think about her submissions?
nobody is asking him to fully displace Vardy, but some respectable game time would do
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:37pm On Apr 06, 2019
safarigirl:
nobody is asking him to fully displace Vardy, but some respectable game time would do

Well, this is at the discretion of the coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:44pm On Apr 06, 2019
zoboizee:


1. Still can't trap the ball properly till now as a professional footballer. Which is elementary.

2.Poor skill set.

3. Avoids his right foot on the ball as if it's plagued. He even scored a goal raising his right foot up in order to use the left foot.

Well, you just summed it up. People will argue Iheanacho has regressed. But I will say he stagnated.

He was never at the level people placed him.

Some believe he has stopped working hard. But I don't think so. In Football development there is what is called a plateau. A player develops and gets to a level and remains at that level for long. That is the plateau. And that is where the talent of such Player can raise him to. And after that plateau his performance starts declining. Iheanacho may just have hit his plateau early. That is just it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 8:46pm On Apr 06, 2019
safarigirl:
Iheanacho cannot make AFCON.

Even if Rohr makes a 30-man list, Iheanacho cannot and must not be on that list. Lwt misfortune follow he who has chosen to make himself unfortunate

Better to take Chukwueze, Onuachu and Osimhen to Egypt, than allow Kelechi on that flight. He can join supporters club sha

Are my eyes playing tricks on me or is Madam Safarigirl actually criticizing Iheanacho? shocked.

For a super dyed-in-the-wool Nacho fangirl to criticize him, then things most have gotten reeaally bad for the young man. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:50pm On Apr 06, 2019
Curtisaxel7:


Are my eyes playing tricks on me or is Madam Safarigirl actually criticizing Iheanacho? shocked.

For a super dyed-in-the-wool Nacho fangirl to criticize him, then things most have gotten reeaally bad for the young man. grin

It remains d goodjoe and Kellycute my chairman cool grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:56pm On Apr 06, 2019
Earthquake2:
Edi guy shebi it's you that said Zaha is not a world class player
He is not elite. You were putting him on Neymar/Mane level which I highly disagree with.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:59pm On Apr 06, 2019
Icon4s:


Well, this is at the discretion of the coach.
if he pushed himself in front, maybe he would get decent game time.

Puel helped his life, and yet, he allowed hinself retrogress so much he was out of matchday squads. Three different coaches can't just dislike a player if he was really good

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:04pm On Apr 06, 2019
charlesemeka85:
And I doubt if you made out time to follow the progress the duo of igbekeme and zubairu have made for the past 2 seasons. Zubairu is a diminutive box to box midfielder, with a lot of energy and good range of passes. No need to argue with you because you don't follow his exploits during the Europa league qualifiers and group stages.

Igbekeme on his on path have been a revelation is the Spanish 2nd tier and have caught the eyes of few La Liga teams who intend to sign him in the summer and mind you he just joined Zaragoza from the Portuguese 2nd tier.

If azubuike is good as hype in this forum he would have atleast been an integral part of the current super eagles set and as well would have caught rohr's eyes at the last Olympics where the likes of Imoh and a few others who performed well were at aleast given a chance to train with the senior national team.

Your azubuike can only smell the super eagles if his fortune changes by performing better than the midfielders in our disposal or siasia and his likes are hired to take over the team
Azubuike did well at the Olympics. I agree with inviting Igbekeme and Zubairu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 9:04pm On Apr 06, 2019
edi287:

He is not elite. You were putting him on Neymar/Mane level which I highly disagree with.

Mane has 17 goals this season, Zaha could have possibly had 18 playing for Crystal Palace

Who's world class now?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:19pm On Apr 06, 2019
Earthquake2:


Mane has 17 goals this season, Zaha could have possibly had 18 playing for Crystal Palace

What were you talking about world class again?
By taking Pks?? How many chances has he created? You are aware that unlike Mane, he is the focal point of his team?
How many Pks have Mane won that he didn't take too? Zaha is great player but not elite. It's not like he'll go to Spurs/City/Liverpool/Manure and become the focal point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:31pm On Apr 06, 2019
Even the Bible say God dey discipline Him children well well. You discipline who you love. You can’t pet someone to stardom. If he is going to rise above this, he has go through it and be determined fight back. by calling a spade a spade that na discipline. Hyping players can’t help ‘em.

safarigirl:


Nothing like die hard. Anyone who truly loves a player should be able to call him out when his career is dwindling thanks to his mistakes.

I no fit siddon dey deceive myself say hope dey, because a t stands, the future is bleak and Kelechi is the only one that can shine torch in this darkness, so, if he has to stumble, fall, get knocked over, for him to on that torch, make e stumble. Giving him a spot on the AFCON team will be encouraging laziness, and a sore lack of ambition.

Pikin wey dem no flog until e cry, no go know say wetin e do, no good

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:37pm On Apr 06, 2019
Icon4s:


Don't you think his lack of game time is the competition he has ahead of him? That is Vardy. That guy is not difficult to displace from that Leicester team.

TheGoodJoe, what do you think about her submissions?

There is little to nothing hardwork and perseverance can do in this case. As I earlier pointed out, the conservative system was telling on Vardy and he has found his mojo under Rodgers.

A player can get quality time if the competition is not too steep. In this case, Vardy is a big name for Leicester City. If not the biggest and with a perfect fit in Rodgers system, Nacho can not be crucified for game time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:40pm On Apr 06, 2019
Joebie:
I for talk say “it’s only in Nigeria” but...


Lmao! Talk am!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 9:42pm On Apr 06, 2019
edi287:

By taking Pks?? How many chances has he created? You are aware that unlike Mane, he is the focal point of his team?
How many Pks have Mane won that he didn't take too? Zaha is great player but not elite. It's not like he'll go to Spurs/City/Liverpool/Manure and become the focal point.

He is playing on the wings like Mane so no point about focal point

The fact that he has 10 pks + 8 goals in a Crystal Palace side means that he is working harder and a bigger goal threat than Mane

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:45pm On Apr 06, 2019
Leicester City is a far improved team. Rodgers is getting them up to speed fast. This shows the players are getting better. However, when a player is on the bench, a lot of people misunderstand it as the player is not improving.

However, Nacho is training with the team and a mountain load of work is going on in the Leicester City camp and it would be close to impossible that Nacho is not working hard to get up to speed with the team.

Nacho is at a fantastic place now under the tutelage of a man who knows his way around a football pitch. He just needs to stay focus and keep listening. As long as he works hard, the reward will come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:52pm On Apr 06, 2019
do4luv14:



I support you, he should work hard, and if he still didn't see game time, should move out on loan, by borrowing a leaf from Musa

Iheanacho should not dear move. Even if Rodgers brings in another striker he favours, Nacho should keep his head down and soak as much knowledge as he can.

At least he should spend a year with Rodgers. It is very hard for players to get this kind of opportunity.

When the chances comes for Nacho to play, he will be playing in an offensive system that suits and will bring out his quality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:57pm On Apr 06, 2019
Icon4s:


Well, you just summed it up. People will argue Iheanacho has regressed. But I will say he stagnated.

He was never at the level people placed him.

Some believe he has stopped working hard. But I don't think so. In Football development there is what is called a plateau. A player develops and gets to a level and remains at that level for long. That is the plateau. And that is where the talent of such Player can raise him to. And after that plateau his performance starts declining. Iheanacho may just have hit his plateau early. That is just it.

Totally disagree. Give Iheanacho a run of games in an offensive system and he will deliver. What just happened is that the run in offensive systems stopped. When he played in such systems, he flourished for years.

Look at how Vardy lost his bite under Shakespeare and Puel. Now look at him under Rodgers. Will you say Vardy hit a plateau and he is out of the plateau?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 9:57pm On Apr 06, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Leicester City is a far improved team. Rodgers is getting them up to speed fast. This shows the players are getting better. However, when a player is on the bench, a lot of people misunderstand it as the player is not improving.

However, Nacho is training with the team and a mountain load of work is going on in the Leicester City camp and it would be close to impossible that Nacho is not working hard to get up to speed with the team.

Nacho is at a fantastic place now under the tutelage of a man who knows his way around a football pitch. He just needs to stay focus and keep listening. As long as he works hard, the reward will come.

Time will tell
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:16pm On Apr 06, 2019
“From what I’ve seen in training and when I’ve spoken to him, he has shown a wonderful appetite and enthusiasm to get better.

“We have a culture where we want to improve players and make them better and he’s responded very well to that.”... Brendan Rodgers.


Contrary to the lazy comments, Rodgers assessment shows Iheanacho is hungry to improve.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18pm On Apr 06, 2019
Oasis007:


grin

I've edited the List, cos a particular Name deserves to be on it with his Performance week in week out with his Club. His Name is Simi Ajayi. I expect him to make the List if Mikel is dropped based on the Formations I suggested.

Don't misunderstand me Bruh, I ain't saying Mikel is not needed in the Team, rather based on my Observation which Earthquake has buttressed - seems Rohr is kinda done with Mikel in the Super Eagles.

Simi Ajayi cannot in his life time replace and or be compared to Mikel in any way shape or form.

When you say performances week in week out. Performance must be taken in context. What is the nature of those performances. What is the quality he brings if you can even call it quality.

Rotherham is in the relegation zone this the quintessential kick and rush English team. Characterised by the what we call "Police game" that's why Ajayi is in the team. Rotherham is what BascoVanVeli would describe as agricultural engineers.

Unfortunately that's not the kind of football we play in the SE. And that essentially Ajayi type of football.

So I'm quite dissapointed that you who should know better are trying to fit a square peg in round hole.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:46pm On Apr 06, 2019
Does this apply to only Iheanacho, Nigerian players playing for a good coach, or all Nigerian players for that matter?

TheGoodJoe:
Leicester City is a far improved team. Rodgers is getting them up to speed fast. This shows the players are getting better. However, when a player is on the bench, a lot of people misunderstand it as the player is not improving.

However, Nacho is training with the team and a mountain load of work is going on in the Leicester City camp and it would be close to impossible that Nacho is not working hard to get up to speed with the team.

Nacho is at a fantastic place now under the tutelage of a man who knows his way around a football pitch. He just needs to stay focus and keep listening. As long as he works hard, the reward will come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:05pm On Apr 06, 2019
Earthquake2:


He is playing on the wings like Mane so no point about focal point

The fact that he has 10 pks + 8 goals in a Crystal Palace side means that he is working harder and a bigger goal threat than Mane

No at Crystal Palace he'll get the ball more than he would at a top 6 team. He is the focal point/main man in Crystal palace.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 11:06pm On Apr 06, 2019
How time flies!

Can't believe that the same set of people who stood vehemently against the idea of Nacho been dropped from the national team immediately after the world cup are now in support of the motion. I remember them calling us haters(still don't know who brought that word to this thread- one of the reasons I lost interest in commenting). But I believe that those who want him out them were his true supporters.

I wanted him out so he could buckle up in his club and earn his place in the national team before Afcon 19. Making it now looks like a mirage. I hope he discover his old self.

S. MOSES, CHUKWUEZE, HENRY, S. KALU
I'll pick Simon Moses ahead of Samu, Henry and S. Kalu.
I don't know how we forget things quickly. Is it not the same Simon that was instrumental to our World Cup Qualification? Oh. His pairing with V. Moses on the flanks was beauty to watch. It was painful seeing him missing out at the Mundial. His wealth of experience and understanding of African football will come to play at Afcon. So why drop him!

Of a truth, Samu has potential and that is it for now - POTENTIAL.
I'll rather have him drafted to the U-20 world cup. He can continue his development there. He needs it more than anyother things
Note: He hasn't even reach Nacho's first professional year Stat(14goals and 8 assist or so in lesser time) . Still waiting for end of season before I pass my judgement on the lad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:10pm On Apr 06, 2019
It appears the the Chelsea boy Adrian Akande made the under 17 final list.

The bournemouth keeper, Joseph Oluwabusola too.

Lateef Omidiji was dropped, it seems.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:11pm On Apr 06, 2019
AIG07:
How time flies!

Can't believe that the same set of people who stood vehemently against the idea of Nacho been dropped from the national team immediately after the world cup are now in support of the motion. I remember them calling us haters(still don't know who brought that word to this thread- one of the reasons I lost interest in commenting). But I believe that those who want him out them were his true supporters.

I wanted him out so he could buckle up in his club and earn his place in the national team before Afcon 19. Making it now looks like a mirage. I hope he discover his old self.

I'll pick Simon Moses ahead

I do not want Iheanacho in the AFCON squad because I am not a fan of Rohr’s system and I do not think Rohr has what it takes to keep on improving Nacho. Nacho is better off without the AFCON distraction focusing on improving his game and soaking information from Rodgers. Thus training in a more offensive system.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:26pm On Apr 06, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I do not want Iheanacho in the AFCON squad because I am not a fan of Rohr’s system and I do not think Rohr has what it takes to keep on improving Nacho. Nacho is better off without the AFCON distraction focusing on improving his game and soaking information from Rodgers. Thus training in a more offensive system.


When Iheanacho was scoring goals in Rohr's early days in charge... what did u say/

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