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Rhema And Logos / John 1:1 - LOGOS and THEOS (2) (3) (4)
Re: Logos by swegiedon(m): 12:24pm On Feb 19, 2019 |
@ PastorAIO, Do you hint that this "Higher Faculty" is the Logos?. |
Re: Logos by LordReed(m): 1:33pm On Feb 19, 2019 |
swegiedon: Not really, I think he has religion. The religious tend to be dogmatic. |
Re: Logos by PastorAIO: 1:51pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
swegiedon: This is a really good question. The answer to be frank is quite inarticulate in my mind. At which point is the perception separate from the object of perception. Is this 'higher'/'other' faculty the means by which we perceive the Logos or is it the Logos itself? Also, is the Logos within you your True Self or is it just something that guides you? 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Logos by PastorAIO: 1:54pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
LordReed: Indeed I have religion. I don't play when it comes to religion. However it is a key dogma of my religion that no Belief is incontrovertible. So you could say that I'm Super-dogmatic. i.e I take a position above dogmas. |
Re: Logos by PastorAIO: 2:28pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
swegiedon: Causal thinking leads us to believe that every event is the product of previous events. However we do not know every previous event. So therefore if we look at the present event we suppose it to be caused by Known Facts that have occurred previously. (by fact I mean an event that has occurred in the past). However what about all the Unknown Facts? Perhaps they had influence on the present situation but we cannot see how because we don't even know those Facts happened. How about if the past was not rigid but quite amorphous? IE Those Unknown Facts are not definite events that have definitely already occurred, but rather they are possibilities. Then if a Super temporal Will were to dictate a future event what will happen is that we might later discover previously unknown Facts that 'cause' the dictated event. e.g A man sows wheat in a field and according to Karma should expect to reap wheat in a few months time. He knows he sowed wheat. What he doesn't know is that his neighbour for whatever reason went into the field at night and sowed barley. Furthermore, the weather over the next few months was such that it favoured the growth of Barley and not of Wheat. and even worse there was an epidemic of a fungi that attacked Wheat but had not effect on Barley. His son who would rather have planted Barley than Wheat prays every day to reap a wonderful harvest of Barley. Come harvest time they return to the fields and find nothing by Barley growing in the field. The son says, 'hallelujah my prayers have been answered'. The man himself is gobsmacked because he didn't understand how he could plant Wheat and reap Barley. What we know can only tell us what is LIKELY to happen. We cannot take into account what we do not know. However what we do not know can have a greater effect on the outcome of events than what we do know. Therefore we cannot actually accurately make a prognosis on the basis of Cause and Effect as we cannot totally grasp every apparent Cause that comes to bear on an event. In my example, was Barley reaped because of the Son's prayers or was it reaped due to a series of unpredictable coincidences. It is my belief that the Ultimate cause of an event is the Diktat of a divine being, and when that occurs it brings into manifestation a confluence of apparent Causes in the Temporal realm. The reality that we cannot know or grasp every influence that brings about a situation (due to our being limited to a perspective) allows plenty of room for us to later 'discover' previously unconsidered influences. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Logos by PastorAIO: 2:35pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
swegiedon: Are we a product of our circumstances, or is there an essential aspect of us that remains true regardless of circumstance? If there is an innate character regardless of circumstance then do we act according to how our circumstance dictates or do we act according to our inner character. Most people act based on a limited view of their circumstance and not from their True Being, in my humble opinion. Once you can find True Self Knowledge then you can begin to act without regard for your blinkered perception of your circumstances. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Logos by LordReed(m): 4:21pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
PastorAIO: Hmmm, interesting. So in practice what does it translate to? Are you unchanging with regards to the acquisition of new information or do you modify your positions as you learn new things? |
Re: Logos by budaatum: 4:29pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
LoJ, ThothHermes, I think in this thread, Pastor has moved us closer to answering our Holy Spirit question. |
Re: Logos by budaatum: 4:44pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
PastorAIO:It must also be why you don't take the "adopted concepts ...given new meaning" as all the meanings, and instead strip off the ‘a bit more or a bit less’ so you can clearly see what exists. And you then bother to spit on mud and rub it in our eyes so that we too can see! Thanks immensely PastorAIO! buda appreciates your existence. |
Re: Logos by PastorAIO: 5:55pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
LordReed: Your question is answered here: PastorAIO: All my doctrine are not to be treated as dogma but rather as Working Hypotheses. 4 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Logos by LordReed(m): 6:08pm On Apr 08, 2019 |
PastorAIO: Refreshing. Thank you! 1 Like |
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