budaatum:

Or a fourth, LoJ. One can request the assistance of the Holy Ghost, whom the Father sent in Christ's name to teach all things and bring all things to one's understanding.

budaatum:

Indeed. Yet some men choose to not be saved by their own freewill.

Tfbaby:


So them not getting saved is simply their decision not predestination

LoJ:

I have always been afraid of ghosts. Why should I trust this one?

budaatum:

I don't suppose it would help if I changed it to Holy Spirit?

Perhaps give me a non-theistical name for it please. There must be one.

Ihedinobi3:

I'm afraid I don't see how I can see something that you apparently saw exclusively. I have been reading the Bible a long time, and I have learned from a gifted and prepared teacher - and still do, in fact. It is what I have learned that I have shared. If it is not the same as what you see in the Bible, then it is unlikely that I will ever see what you see without your stating what it is.

It is my impression that you may be looking to show off something about your own spiritual status, and that you have a pet doctrine that you also wish to show off. If this is correct, I must confess my lack of interest. It is enough for me to discuss the Bible rather than people's perceptions of themselves or of other people.

LoJ:

Paracletos.

budaatum:

Na. That's just another theistic way of saying holy spirit!

We going to have to work on this it seems.

LoJ:

Primordial spark ?
Unfathomable light?

budaatum:
Na. That's just another theistic way of saying holy spirit!
We going to have to work on this it seems.

ThothHermes:
Prana

Chi

Vital Force

Universal Life Energy/ Life Energy

budaatum:

Nice one. Your's and LoJ's sounds like the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A7&version=KJV]breath of life[/url] that God breathed into the dust of the ground that made humans become a living soul.

Note how God formed man of dust first before breathing life into it. And this was after the initial creation of humans in God's own [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26-27&version=KJV]image[/url].

Might it be consciousness, or awareness, I wonder?

budaatum:

Nice one. Your's and LoJ's sounds like the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A7&version=KJV]breath of life[/url] that God breathed into the dust of the ground that made humans become a living soul.

Note how God formed man of dust first before breathing life into it. And this was after the initial creation of humans in God's own [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26-27&version=KJV]image[/url].

Might it be consciousness, or awareness, I wonder?

kkins25:

Whales, elephants have awareness, are they also in God's image?

budaatum:

I don't quite have God's image to compare with, sorry.

ThothHermes:
It is my view that there is but one animating force in the universe. This power is known by different names across different civilizations/cultures.

It is the same power which the sorcerer draws upon for his conjurations. The faith healer gives health to infirm bodies using this same power.

I think the earth is held firmly in its position by it and nothing will be possible without this power.

It is life and life is it.

It is the ALL, The First Cause; God!

damocool:
bless you bro.

Dtruthspeaker:


I understand your problem and I do not wish to bother you anymore. I am not a show off but I believe I am duty bound to share knowledge gained. As I was given, so I give.

I already disclosed that Rev1:10 answered it all.

Your Rev 4 starts from Rev 1 and Up till Rev 22, John Never left the Spirit.

ChristisGod:
Is salvation strictly by the election of God or we merit it? Are people condemned to hell from birth?

Let's have you say based on scripture

ThothHermes:
It is my view that there is but one animating force in the universe. This power is known by different names across different civilizations/cultures.

It is the same power which the sorcerer draws upon for his conjurations. The faith healer gives health to infirm bodies using this same power.

I think the earth is held firmly in its position by it and nothing will be possible without this power.

It is life and life is it.

It is the ALL, The First Cause; God!

ThothHermes:
It is my view that there is but one animating force in the universe. This power is known by different names across different civilizations/cultures.

It is the same power which the sorcerer draws upon for his conjurations. The faith healer gives health to infirm bodies using this same power.

I think the earth is held firmly in its position by it and nothing will be possible without this power.

It is life and life is it.

It is the ALL, The First Cause; God!

PastorAIO:


Isaac Newton's translation of the Smaragdina:



This true without lying, certain and most true.
That which is below is like that which is above and that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing
And as all things have been and arose from one by the meditation of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.
The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse.
The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.
Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.
Separate thou the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross sweetly with great industry.
It ascends from the earth to the heaven and again it descends to the earth and receives the force of things superior & inferior.
By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world
and thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.
Its force is above all force. For it vanquishes every subtle thing and penetrates every solid thing.
So was the world created.
From this are and do come admirable adaptations whereof the means (or process) is here in this. Hence I am called Hermes Trismegist, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world
That which I have said of the operation of the Sun is accomplished & ended.

budaatum:

book on the topic is called Trice Greatest Hermes in three volumes

PastorAIO:

You speak of that Stone.
Oyigiyigi, ota inu omi.

PastorAIO:


Isaac Newton's translation of the Smaragdina:



This true without lying, certain and most true.
That which is below is like that which is above and that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing
And as all things have been and arose from one by the meditation of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.
The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse.
The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.
Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.
Separate thou the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross sweetly with great industry.
It ascends from the earth to the heaven and again it descends to the earth and receives the force of things superior & inferior.
By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world
and thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.
Its force is above all force. For it vanquishes every subtle thing and penetrates every solid thing.
So was the world created.
From this are and do come admirable adaptations whereof the means (or process) is here in this. Hence I am called Hermes Trismegist, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world
That which I have said of the operation of the Sun is accomplished & ended.

titigenius:
i remember when i first read romans 8 and got to verse 28 through to the last verse, confusion was my name. Here's what i've come to discover. Paul said it is those whom God foreknows(knowing someone before meeting them or in this case before they are born) he has predestined to be changed into the person of Jesus Christ and without a doubt, that spells "being born again" which is key to entering the kingdom of God(heaven). The words of God to jeremiah and the psalmist song of God's knowledge of him in his mother's womb and even having a book containing the list of his parts is clear indicator that God knows all before they are even born. God has destined for all men to make heaven but before this redirection of the road of destiny we must know that from the begining man was destined(God's path) by God to be in fellowship with him but adam chose a different path for himself and thereby setting all his descendants on the same road. sorry i can't write much

ChristisGod:
Is salvation strictly by the election of God or we merit it? Are people condemned to hell from birth?
Let's have you say based on scripture