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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by heyteaherm: 2:30pm On Apr 10, 2019
The long and short term Effect of Devaluation.

There are other factors that determine if Nigeria can attract long term portfolios such as political stability or exchange rate free float.

every investor wants profits and security.

Devaluation might have attracted short term interest, but it is not the only reason why there was capital flight after a short term if you check the history this always happens before any major political event such as presidential elections especially in politically unstable countries, because new electorates usually mean new policies and as the politicians are also responsible for some FDI's security in the country it is imperative to state that they won't be secured if their political connection in the country didn't win.

That is another topic for another day, not digressing so much the capital flight was majorly due to political risk and security. once everything is stable in the country the FDI/FPI investors who deem it fit will return, maybe not as much.

Devaluation is not the best answer of course, but Nigeria is import-dependent country money flows out regardless, that is why naira gets weaker, devaluation won't affect the poor but the affluent who takes every opportunity to bring in products from abroad which is cheaper than locally produced products take.

why are products from China cheaper than those locally made in Nigeria?

The problem is not devaluation because our money will always be cheaper if we are not exporting more value than we import, which we aren't. We rather export raw materials which we should be processing into exportable products, why because the cost of running a factory with stable electricity, the viable transportation system isn't there, that's the reason why our goods locally made the cost more than those imported from China.

The short-term effect correlates with how stable the political scene is, and also investors prefer market forces to determine the price, not a central body which will always appease its interest. Nigeria isn't a free market.

The government should fix infrastructure, electricity, and transportation should be a priority, fix the civil services system, focus on ease of doing business if the world is growing faster than we that is why we devalue not because our value reduces in essence but because our growth is not to par as before.

What is responsible for more than our GDP, not manufacturing, not tourism, not Nollywood, not the music industry, not the tech, but the oil that isn't even filtered here we have to bring in the finished products.

For me devaluation is manipulation, it doesn't portray the true value of the currency, if we set the market forces to determine the price we will see how the naira is truly valued, but then again we can devalue and wait out the economy to be on par with its valuation but that is total manipulation.

The problem of our currency is not devaluation or revaluation, it is that Nigeria has no value asides from crude oil sales and once the price of oil falls our economy is affected, other oil-producing states have succeeded in decoupling their economy from oil, Saudi Arabia makes more from tourism than oil.

The brick and mortar investments t that are closing shop every day in the country what do you think they will go back to say in their respective countries, its more than devaluation.

Ekene Obi
Guru Capital LTD



courage89:


They made similar arguments 3-4 years ago, Nigeria needs to devalue its currency to attract FDI. We need to devalue to make export cheaper. Loads of bull...What happened to the FDI after we devalue our currency? What kind of FDI did we attract, portfolio or brick and mortar investments? What happened to the FDI after these investors made their returns? Has our cheaper currency helped us to export more industrial goods?

Let's not kid ourselves, devaluation of naira at this point is not in the best interest of our economy. It will create high inflation, high-interest rate, loss of manufacturing abilities, loss of jobs and other problems.

To the proponents of currency devaluation, what's the objective this time? To attract short term portfolio, long term portfolio, brick & mortar investments? Devalued naira will only attract short term portfolio investment, which is detrimental to our economy. We're all living witness to the economic effect, cycle, and runaround based on what happened to our stock market in the past 4 years.

Our objective should be how to attract long term portfolio, brick and mortar investments. The best way to do this right now is to address factors that lower the cost of doing business in Nigeria. Power, transportation, ease of doing business policies, security, currency stability, and others. Our conversation should revolve around these subjects and not currency devaluation. By fixing these problems, we fix our economic problems and others at the same time.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by swilo: 2:30pm On Apr 10, 2019
Who witnessed the transcorp crossings..? any large trade or what?? any idea how the vol came?? I missed that part, so one can know if it will retest that 1.12 again??
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jamace(m): 2:49pm On Apr 10, 2019
How market, bnsitl? cheesy

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Valueinvestor: 3:06pm On Apr 10, 2019
Mcy56:
I saw it. Uba and Access are for the patient ones. undecided
You nailed it my sister. Permit me to just add Zenith bank too

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by veecovee: 3:06pm On Apr 10, 2019
currentprice:
make u na day buy small small o. I don buy today o

grin grin grin grin

wetin u buy?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jideflash(m): 3:14pm On Apr 10, 2019
Do you know that STI has released their 2018 fye result quietly. EPS is 4.13kobo

sold off 8million units of STI today 24kobo , entered at 21kobo. wink
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 3:45pm On Apr 10, 2019
jideflash:
Do you know that STI has released their 2018 fye result quietly. EPS is 4.13kobo

sold off 8million units of STI today 24kobo , entered at 21kobo. wink


Did STI declare any dividend?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 3:48pm On Apr 10, 2019
swilo:
Who witnessed the transcorp crossings..? any large trade or what?? any idea how the vol came?? I missed that part, so one can know if it will retest that 1.12 again??
Witness?
Me no witness ooo but saw some crossing at 50M and 30M single crossing. There are other smaller ones like 8M and the like, crossed as well.
Doesn't mean it will not retest or does it mean it will retest the junction again. Mr. Market will determine this.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jideflash(m): 3:48pm On Apr 10, 2019
no they didnt. they still have accummulated loss of about 1.3bn.

OBAGADAFFI:



Did STI declare any dividend?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 3:49pm On Apr 10, 2019
jideflash:
no they didnt. they still have accummulated loss of about 1.3bn.


Thanks
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 3:52pm On Apr 10, 2019
jamace:
How market, bnsitl? cheesy
Market just dey there. We HOPE to see reversal soon, even if na small. smiley
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jideflash(m): 3:54pm On Apr 10, 2019
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 4:11pm On Apr 10, 2019
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BMZK: 4:16pm On Apr 10, 2019
Please has FCMB released result?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 4:20pm On Apr 10, 2019
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 5:48pm On Apr 10, 2019
swilo:
I still don't know where those guys came from. If they can just apply 10percent of their analysis skill to NSE then we all are in to make millions this year. They all know how to write long messages... They all have points... And yet Bubu is still the president.

The advice from a poor man will ALWAYS be ignored even if it will save the city


Market don open

I honestly wouldn't mind those guys being here. Argue against their point or for it, those guys made logical sound argument. RabbiOracle and Rebekah too did, the thing is when it comes to the financial market there is no certainty, anything can happen. Time will tell though. So sad I wasn't around.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 5:50pm On Apr 10, 2019
tritritri:


Our reserve at 43B will be able to help us through.


Hope is never a strategy my brother.

Nigeria spent 38 billion USD last year saving the naira. All it takes is a plunge in oil prices to allow the King Kong of recession and a great depression to f*uck Nigerians in the ass without lube.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Krisuba: 5:51pm On Apr 10, 2019
Mcy56:

I saw it. Uba and Access are for the patient ones. undecided

They better behave becos me I don't decide say na inside d UBA bus I go sleep till he returns my money!!

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 5:53pm On Apr 10, 2019
Mcy56:

Better!

My luff is back. grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 6:00pm On Apr 10, 2019
Mpeace:
Where all this pple follow come?



grin I can't stop laughing anytime I read this..But they made good analysis thou

would appreciate if it was peaceful with no wahala

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 6:02pm On Apr 10, 2019
http://www.nse.com.ng/Financial_NewsDocs/25668_LAFARGE_WAPCO_PLC._CORPORATE_ACTIONS_APRIL_2019.pdf

Key Director shamsudeen usman is gone........... still keeping my fingers crossed on this stock
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 6:16pm On Apr 10, 2019
Gut Feelings

The breeze of devaluation will blow everybody, Banks, brokers, NSE, market markers etc, ,,,, All will prepare for it.... I see equity prices on a downward thrend till JULY.......I will move in another batch of money after presidential inaugurations then buy very volatile stocks anticipating this FPIs are in for capital gains..... Stocks on my radar are

Oando (45% profit entry price below 4.50)
wema (80% profit entry price below 0.53k.......I wont guk again)
Zenith (23% profit entry price below 20.00.......#3 na brokerage charge)
chams (30% profit entry price below 0.21.........sold chams quietly at 0.28)

technical info will be highly appreciated.....

Thanks in advance
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 6:23pm On Apr 10, 2019
I will take a gamble on UACN and Wapco this year, their share prices are highly depressed, they will definitely benefit from evaluation as their products will relatively become cheaper in the west african market(at least wapco).... I want to believe they will rise this year and when they do they will rise on steroids.....



CAVEAT: all na gut analysis
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jamace(m): 6:27pm On Apr 10, 2019
Mcy56:

I saw it. Uba and Access are for the patient ones. undecided
Both are in the BUY zone, TA speaking.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 6:46pm On Apr 10, 2019
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has ranked Nigeria as the world’s second worst country in the use of sovereign wealth funds.

This is revealed in the Fiscal Monitor Report released on today by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). According to the report, Qatar is the only country worse than Nigeria on the index.

The Bretton Wood Institution disclosed that the index was compiled using the corporate governance and transparency scores of the sovereign wealth funds and the size of assets as a percentage of 2016 GDP of the countries considered.

https://nairametrics.com/2019/04/10/breaking-imf-ranks-nigerias-sovereign-wealth-fund-second-worst-in-the-world/
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 6:49pm On Apr 10, 2019
GonFreecss1:



Hope is never a strategy my brother.

Nigeria spent 38 billion USD last year saving the naira. All it takes is a plunge in oil prices to allow the King Kong of recession and a great depression to f*uck Nigerians in the ass without lube.


wait...oil was at 50 last year ..now 70...even if at 50 we will scale through...Meanwhile what if after all d talk no recession dis year ?

grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 6:59pm On Apr 10, 2019
tritritri:



wait...oil was at 50 last year ..now 70...even if at 50 we will scale through...Meanwhile what if after all d talk no recession dis year ?

https://nairametrics.com/2019/04/05/nigeria-set-to-become-exporter-of-refined-crude-products-imf/

I get your point, but if you remember correctly when this happened Naira to usd inched up from 358 to a dollar to 370 to a dollar. That is cause for worry friend.

I get your stance though, but I have learnt when it comes to the financial market, you need to look at it like you are crossing the road, left, right then left again. I am simply saying study both sides and hedge accordingly. Both arguments have their pros and cons, both arguments could be wrong or right assuming one is right than the other is dangerous.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 7:01pm On Apr 10, 2019
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 7:02pm On Apr 10, 2019
GonFreecss1:


I get your point, but if you remember correctly when this happened Naira to usd inched up from 358 to a dollar to 370 to a dollar. That is cause for worry friend.

I get your stance though, but I have learnt when it comes to the financial market, you need to look at it like you are crossing the road, left, right then left again. I am simply saying study both sides and hedge accordingly. Both arguments have their pros and cons, both arguments could be wrong or right assuming one is right than the other is dangerous.


There is always a media story whenever the index is down just to justify there claim.

Oil was at 50 last year ..now 70...even if at 50 we will scale through...Meanwhile what if after all d talk no recession dis year ?

Few months ago , The US and N.Korea talk..The media woudnt let people rest Dow fell to 22 ard JAN . wat happened ? it back to 26 now.

https://nairametrics.com/2019/04/05/nigeria-set-to-become-exporter-of-refined-crude-products-imf/


I was thinking ACCESS BANK would be back to 4 naira by now ....look at access trying to form bid..

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 7:22pm On Apr 10, 2019
Pls who are these new monikers with long epistles I am seeing in our forum these days?I'm really afraid only that I can't leave this place without a genuine reason.pls who are they?Is oga long epistle transformed?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 7:49pm On Apr 10, 2019
GonFreecss1:
My luff is back. grin
Yeah I'm back dear. Thanks. kiss

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 7:59pm On Apr 10, 2019
GonFreecss1:
Nigeria spent 38 billion USD last year saving the naira. All it takes is a plunge in oil prices to allow the King Kong of recession and a great depression to f*uck Nigerians in the ass without lube.
Now you're using deepsuk language. Hope she wouldn't come and go and pretend to arrest you. I no go gree ooo. grin
When I saw those long back and forth arguments, I was surprised you were not among them, cos na the kind of thing you dey like be that. Lol. No mind me jare. grin

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