OtemAtum:
Hell fire is in your imagination. The light of God Almighty has ended any hellish imaginations since millions of years ago.


Histar 1:22-26
22. Now while they wailed, the evil creature said,
I am your god Yahweh, the deceiver himself. I
have made the fire for you because you become
my followers on earth and then you are bound by
my laws.
23. For my laws cannot be broken. For if you
break any of my laws, you shall be punished here
forever.
24. Now while our wailings continued, a great
light came and lightened up the darkness of the
smoke of fire. And we heard a voice, saying, I
have come to free your souls. For you are seeing
the illusions of what you believe in. For you are not in any real fire, but you suffer the
imagination of the god whom you worship. For
like one on earth who take the weed of tekum
and see hallucinations of fire, so are you all.
25. For the afterlife is like a dream of never
returning. Now imagine the afterlifes of your
choice and you shall find yourself there.
26. And it was so, for every afterlife we all
imagined became the places we went. But the
imaginations were not our own, for our thoughts
were only connected to the thoughts of some
good gods who have themselves by their
imaginations made good afterlives thousands of
years before.

Toks2008:


Clap for yourself.

OtemAtum:
kpa kpa kpa... thanks. It's from the Book of Truth anyway.

Toks2008:


I hope you have accepted Christ sha...to avoid super story when you eventually find out after you die that indeed there is Hell.

If I were an Athiest i would simply believe in GOD and accept Jesus at least out of curiosity and considering the fact that I have nothing to lose if I die and realize there is no GOD or hell but will it not be share stupidity for me to be acting Voltron with GOD now and later die just to realize that indeed there is GOD and hell?

I honestly don't know what runs through the minds of Atheists.

OtemAtum:
There's no hell. Check the book of universal truth. Currently Yahweh your god is held in a spiritual cage.

Toks2008:

I honestly don't know what runs through the minds of Atheists.

Aaronsrod:


Atheists are fools!!

To avoid Hellfire I would believe in absolutely anything.

It is well.

Toks2008:
THIS IS ONE REASON WE MUST AVOID HELL AT ALL COST.

Luke 8:30-32
'' Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, “Legion”; because many demons had entered him. They continually begged Him not to command them to go into the abyss(HELLFIRE). Now a large herd of pigs was feeding there on the mountain. The demons begged Jesus to allow them to enter the pigs, and He gave them permission''

If demons can frantically beg JESUS not to send them out of a man to HELL then it must be so terrible a place that even Demons dread it. So If Demons who were never human but 100% evil spirit and by default should not fear hell dread it so much, why should we find ourselves there?

Think about it.

TVSA:

abyss is not hellfire

TVSA:
why did you then put hellfire in the passage you quoted? abyss has nothing to do with fire.

Toks2008:


The way some people argue just dey tire me. Please go and do your research. Hades, Abyss, hell,lake of fir, bottomless pit are interchangeably used scripturally.

TVSA:

abyss means a deep or a bottomless pit. In Hebrew lexicon, it's tehom, it has nothing to do with fire. In Greek it's abussos and again, it has nothing to do with fire. Tehom(deep) was used in Genesis 1:2 and Psalm 42:7. are those places talking about Fire too?

Quote Any version of the bible that uses hell or lake of fire in Luke 8:31.

Toks2008:


For the sake or viewers who want to learn,...Abyss means Hell in the bible especially in the new testament and on this note, i will hang this pendulous argument.

Toks2008:


No they are not fools but they are only ignorant in their reasoning.

They want to reason out GOD but unfortunately, GOD is too mysterious and he is beyond human comprehension.

So because they could not comprehend him, they say GOD does not exist.

They believe their shoes were made by someone, they believe their clothes were created by someone and they even agree that there is a force that brought this earth to be but they don't believe that force was created by an entity Called GOD.

Dantedasz:


Atheists are too dumb to understand that God is a mystery,they are too blind to realise his ways are not their ways. They are so blind to see that one billion years is like a second to God.
Just cast a glance around and gaze upon the perfection of Gods creations and tell me that God does not exist.
Demons fear hell fire that burns for eternity not to talk of ordinary Man of flesh and blood.
Atheists you have received enough warnings. Had I known is the brother of Mister-Too-late. Repent and accept Jesus born of the perpetual virgin Mary before you find yourself in perpetual burning incinerator.
A word is enough for the wise. I know the atheists are stiff necked people,they will continue to argue and argue blindly till the end up in the perpetual incinerator machine.
Remember this post will be marked against you atheists at the gates of heaven and hell. You have been warned...Repent and accept Jesus as your savior so that you can be with him in Paradise.......
..but what if Islam is the true religion?
Or
What if Orunmila is the true God??




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GScdUIYXglA

Toks2008:


Let us even leave emotions out of it and let's talk logic.

I keep saying that if I'm an Atheist, I will believe there is GOD not for any reason perse but the fact that it will cost me nothing.

In fact, out of curiosity i will gladly believe because the bible says we will know him more when we get to paradise so why not for the sake of curiosity just believe and if you die and realize GOD is a scam i bet you have nothing and i mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO LOSE so Wettin be the issue?, its not hat you will be punished if you die believing and realize he does not exist.

This is why I just conclude that Athiest have a vendetta against GOD as a result of a bad experience in their life and not that they have any logical reason for not believing in the existence of GOD.

Blockdock90:


Going by your logic, why then do you specifically believe in the Christian god? Why not all the other gods that exist across different cultures and religions around the world? These gods also have their own punishments for dead humans that didn't believe in them, and if fear of punishment for not believing is your reason for clinging on to a particular version of god, why aren't you afraid of going to the hells and terrible afterlifes of all the other hods you don't believe in?

Secondly you speak so much about god with a great degree of certainty. How are you so certain that your understanding of what god is is true? Even if there is a creator who created us and the world, how do you know the nature of this creator?

Toks2008:


Let us even leave emotions out of it and let's talk logic.

I keep saying that if I'm an Atheist, I will believe there is GOD not for any reason perse but the fact that it will cost me nothing.

In fact, out of curiosity i will gladly believe because the bible says we will know him more when we get to paradise so why not for the sake of curiosity just believe and if you die and realize GOD is a scam i bet you have nothing and i mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO LOSE so Wettin be the issue?, its not hat you will be punished if you die believing and realize he does not exist.

This is why I just conclude that Athiest have a vendetta against GOD as a result of a bad experience in their life and not that they have any logical reason for not believing in the existence of GOD.

Dantedasz:


Did you watch the animation at all?
The atheist has no vendetta against God,he only wants God to prove his existence rationally. The simple fact is there are thousands of religions with most of them having a stick and carrot system of punishment in hell and reward in heaven. So which religion is the right one? The thousands of religions CANNOT all be right. So that means if you choose the wrong religion you end up in hell. It is not a matter of believing in God alone-you have to believe in the correct God or you go to the endless incinerator machine.
By the way you should also consider the fact that if God does exist,he might actually want you to rationally question his existence. Have you ever reasoned that why would an omniscient,omnipotent creator being need you to sing praises to him/her before doing things for the creations he/she claims to love?

On a final note taking a risk to believe in one religion over the other as a mode of salvation sounds cute and nice,but the fact is ALL the religions could be WRONG about this concept of heaven and hell.

Toks2008:


Nice one.

But I have a simple answer to that...in a situation where 8 out of 10 people believe in same GOD I will rather go with the 8 and damn the consequence.

Statistically speaking, muslims and Christians make up the larger % IF the world's population Nd the two believe in one GOD CALLED JEHOVAH IN HEBREW AND ALLAH IN ARABIC.

Based on logic,i chose to believe in Jesus because both Bible and Qur'an believe in him.

I have also heard countless revelations of GOD and Jesus so I'm cool taking the risk with believing in GOD n Jesus but if I die and find out I am wrong, I'm ready to face the consequence with other several billions of people.

Toks2008:


Nice one.

But I have a simple answer to that...in a situation where 8 out of 10 people believe in same GOD I will rather go with the 8 and damn the consequence.

Statistically speaking, muslims and Christians make up the larger % IF the world's population Nd the two believe in one GOD CALLED JEHOVAH IN HEBREW AND ALLAH IN ARABIC.

Based on logic,i chose to believe in Jesus because both Bible and Qur'an believe in him.

I have also heard countless revelations of GOD and Jesus so I'm cool taking the risk with believing in GOD n Jesus but if I die and find out I am wrong, I'm ready to face the consequence with other several billions of people.

Toks2008:


Nice one.

But I have a simple answer to that...in a situation where 8 out of 10 people believe in same GOD I will rather go with the 8 and damn the consequence.

Statistically speaking, muslims and Christians make up the larger % IF the world's population Nd the two believe in one GOD CALLED JEHOVAH IN HEBREW AND ALLAH IN ARABIC.

Based on logic,i chose to believe in Jesus because both Bible and Qur'an believe in him.

I have also heard countless revelations of GOD and Jesus so I'm cool taking the risk with believing in GOD n Jesus but if I die and find out I am wrong, I'm ready to face the consequence with other several billions of people.

Blockdock90:


But you seem to be ignoring the historical contingencies that led to these two religions having the highest number of followers. The popularity of Christianity and Islam is predicated to a large degree on the fact that these religions were heavily endorsed by political powers who enjoyed conquest. The Muslims conquered many lands in the name of Allah, killing thousands of people, and converted millions of people to Islam, forcefully I must add. The christian empires of Europe also participated in conquest and used very forceful means to make sure the religion of Christianity was adhered to. Example: In the 4th century, the Roman Emperor Theodosius made Christianity the state religion and outlawed all other religions, punishing by death those who practised other religions. In the 10th ,11th and 12th century, the christian Roman empire embarked on a series of crusades killing mostly Jews and Muslims with the aim of securing the holy lands for Christianity. In the 15th century the Spanish Inquisition killed anyone who wasn't a Christian, burning alive thousands of people who refused to covert to Christianity. During the slave trade black slaves weren't allowed to receive education but had Christianity foisted upon them and they passed this religion on to their children. Hence why Christianity is still very popular among blacks in America. So you see, the preponderance of the religions of Christianity and Islam owes more to the way these religions were propagated and maintained by political powers than the legitimacy of the religions themselves.

Are you saying that your brand of logic dictates that the legitimacy of a belief system is proportional to the number of people practicing that belief system? If that's the case then if you were alive in 800AD when Hinduism and buddism had more followers than Christianity and Islam, would you then have being a Buddhist or a Hindu?

Toks2008:


My brodA ABEG let me stick to popular opinion that there is GOD...if I die and find out I'm wrong I will face the consequence.

Gambling that there is GOD is like staking my life earning on Messi making a goal attempt in at least one of his next 10 matches so it is a good gamble.

Blockdock90:


There is a difference between "THERE IS A GOD and "There is a God and I know he is the christian God." The first opens up more windows for understanding what God is and what it's true nature is, and also opens up the possibility of understanding the actual nature of reality due to it's open minded form of examination. But the later asserts to know what God is and what it wants from humans. It doesn't allow the possibility of exploring other pathways to understanding what God and it arrogantly asserts to know what the nature of reality is.

Toks2008:


My brodA ABEG let me stick to popular opinion that there is GOD...if I die and find out I'm wrong I will face the consequence.

Gambling that there is GOD is like staking my life earning on Messi making a goal attempt in at least one of his next 10 matches so it is a good gamble.

Funaki:

you are following popular opinion? you're not even sure of your believe. So if you were born in India, you'll have been following Hinduism. SMH

1 Peter 3:15 KJV
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear

Toks2008:


This is the problem....too much grammar.

Bro biko if you like believe in Amadioha nah your choice.

Me I believe in the ancient of days!
-The ageless GOD!
-The one that was crowned by nobody!
-The one that was never voted into power but has all powers!
-The one that has no beginning and no end!
-Who can show us his mother and father or origin?
-The one who incarnated,birthed and named himself!
-A mystery unchanged and the unsolvable mystery!
-The king that can never be dethroned!
-The one that sat on the throne in heaven yet manifested as man on earth.
-He that was before the heavens and earth were made and will still be when the earths and heavens pass away.
-Without his breath of life who can come alive?
-His power is endless and far beyond human comprehension!
-He that can dethrone any king and make them cease to live!
-He that does what he pleases and can not be questioned!
- Who can describe him by all his names?!
-There are not enough words to describe him because he is indescribable!
- The mighty warrior that goes ahead of us yet shields our backs from the enemy!
-Extremely heavy and forever brilliant in Majesty!
- The fearful shadow that turns away the day of death!
- He that destroys and saves at his discretion!
- The creator and owner of everything in heaven and on earth!
- Our everlasting mountain that never shifts!
- The fearless and immeasurable one!
- The stranger who storms the house of it's owner and the owner stands in awe!
- The possessor of inexhaustible blessings!
- The mighty protector of all!
-The one that unlocks the secrets of the heaven,the earth and everlasting places!
-He is the door, the inner chamber and the access to all things!
- The unbreakable word!
- Perfect in beauty and might!
- He is immeasurable,
invincible,unending!
- The independent holder of human destinies!
- The unfathomable one!

TO HIM BE ALL THE GLORY! HONOR! POWER! AND ADORATION FOREVER AND EVER...AMEN!