Fellow NL, as you may have heard, Nigeria ruling party APC claimed that His Excellency Alh. Atiku Abuakar GCON, GCFR former Vice President of Nigeria (1999 - 2007). Waziri Adanawa, a former chieftain of same APC snd recently presidential candidate of PDP is not a Nigerisn, but a Camerounian.

Of note is the fact that Atiku holds a Nigerian Passport, Nigerian National ID card. His town which is in Adamawa in NE Nigeria is in Nigerian territory. He was Comptroller General of Nigeria customs. Former Governor-elect of Adamawa State, whose business interest, family, etc. are well known in Nigeria.

For me, for such a person to be labelled a foreigner is not only STUPID but highly libellous and subject to litigation and stupendous reparation from the APC. This claim just proves that APC leadership is full of BLOCK HEADS.

I can describe such claim by APC as LUDICROUS!
Pls give your own description of this APC claim in just one worx!

One m.or.on somewhere woke up one day and said;
A General,
A President, does not have a certificate, after obtaining certificates that can be equated to a degree outside the shores of Nigeria, and decided to challenge that in the tribunal instead of the allegation of rigging and you think you'll are sane?

You don't have the monopoly of stupidity. If you think you can be senseless, some people can also see if it is lucrative.

Two can play the game!

Amitez:
Fellow NL, as you may have heard, Nigeria ruling party APC claimed that His Excellency Alh. Atiku Abuakar GCON, GCFR former Vice President of Nigeria (1999 - 2007). Waziri Adanawa, a former chieftain of same APC snd recently presidential candidate of PDP is not a Nigerisn, but a Camerounian.

Of note is the fact that Atiku holds a Nigerian Passport, Nigerian National ID card. His town which is in Adamawa in NE Nigeria is in Nigerian territory. He was Comptroller General of Nigeria customs. Former Governor-elect of Adamawa State, whose business interest, family, etc. are well known in Nigeria.

For me, for such a person to be labelled a foreigner is not only STUPID but highly libellous and subject to litigation and stupendous reparation from the APC. This claim just proves that APC leadership is full of BLOCK HEADS.

I can describe such claim by APC as LUDICROUS!
Pls give your own description of this APC claim in just one worx!

iberiberism...mumurism...stupiddism...nonsensitism...imbecilism...confusionsism...infact i dont understand how we can a have a government with buffoons...well we are buffoons ourselves, because we let them in and have their way...

Its a legal battle so expect anything , the Apc lawyers wouldnt mind if this matter is dragged for four years

political immaturity

nnamdi kanu

It shows that Nnamdi Kanu is way smarter than them.

Dannyset:
One slowpoke somewhere woke up one day and said;
A General,
A President, does not have a certificate, after obtaining certificates that can be equated to a degree outside the shores of Nigeria, and decided to challenge that in the tribunal instead of the allegation of rigging and you think you'll are sane?

You don't have the monopoly of stupidity. If you think you can be senseless, some people can also see if it is lucrative.

Two can play the game!

Do you even realise how stupid APC petition is? Lets assume howbeit "foolishly" that Atiku was a Camerounian. Those votes belong to PDP, suppose APC loses at the tribunal and PDP is adjudged winner of the election, the votes reverts to PDP vice presidential candidate ìf Atiku was to be a Camerounian. You can see the stupidity in this oetition. I now know that Keyamo guy actually got his SAN from the backdoor. APC is a monumental disaster, honestly!

Amitez:
Fellow NL, as you may have heard, Nigeria ruling party APC claimed that His Excellency Alh. Atiku Abuakar GCON, GCFR former Vice President of Nigeria (1999 - 2007). Waziri Adanawa, a former chieftain of same APC snd recently presidential candidate of PDP is not a Nigerisn, but a Camerounian.

Of note is the fact that Atiku holds a Nigerian Passport, Nigerian National ID card. His town which is in Adamawa in NE Nigeria is in Nigerian territory. He was Comptroller General of Nigeria customs. Former Governor-elect of Adamawa State, whose business interest, family, etc. are well known in Nigeria.

For me, for such a person to be labelled a foreigner is not only STUPID but highly libellous and subject to litigation and stupendous reparation from the APC. This claim just proves that APC leadership is full of BLOCK HEADS.

I can describe such claim by APC as LUDICROUS!
Pls give your own description of this APC claim in just one worx!

Atiku's citizenship is not the issue here, everybody knows he is a Nigerian citizen. The issue is what the law says about running for president. The law says that in order to run for the office president, one must be a Nigerian citizen "by birth". Atiku was initially born a Cameroonian and only became a Nigerian in 1961 when the area of Adamawa joined Nigeria after a referendum

Ultimately, it will be the courts that will decide if Atiku is/was eligible to run for president

gidgiddy:


Atiku's citizenship is not the issue here, everybody knows he is a Nigerian citizen. The issue is what the law says about running for president. The law says that in order to run for the office president, one must be a Nigerian citizen "by birth". Atiku was initially born a Cameroonian and only became a Nigerian in 1961 when the area of Adamawa joined Nigeria after a referendum

Ultimately, it will be the courts that will decide if Atiku is/was eligible to run for president

So how does Buhari whose birth predates Nigeria become eligible for same office? Was the present grograohical entity in existebce when Buhari was born?
Again, how does the constitution define Nigeria? Is it the 1914 geogrsohical entity or 1960 or 1999 geogrsphical entity? So by your assertion, the people of Bakassi are still Nigerians basis your constitutional analogy? Stop showcasing your ignorance sir.

Dannyset:
One slowpoke somewhere woke up one day and said;
A General,
A President, does not have a certificate, after obtaining certificates that can be equated to a degree outside the shores of Nigeria, and decided to challenge that in the tribunal instead of the allegation of rigging and you think you'll are sane?

You don't have the monopoly of stupidity. If you think you can be senseless, some people can also see if it is lucrative.

Two can play the game!

look at this one...now we know the people we are dealing with...

Dannyset:
One slowpoke somewhere woke up one day and said;
A General,
A President, does not have a certificate, after obtaining certificates that can be equated to a degree outside the shores of Nigeria, and decided to challenge that in the tribunal instead of the allegation of rigging and you think you'll are sane?

You don't have the monopoly of stupidity. If you think you can be senseless, some people can also see if it is lucrative.

Two can play the game!

You dont have monopoly of stupidity. So its your turn now abi..lol

Amitez:

So how does Buhari whose birth predates Nigeria become eligible for same office? Was the present grograohical entity in existebce when Buhari was born?
Again, how does the constitution define Nigeria? Is it the 1914 geogrsohical entity or 1960 or 1999 geogrsphical entity? So by your assertion, the people of Bakassi are still Nigerians basis your constitutional analogy? Stop showcasing your ignorance sir.

Apc counter claim is smart.buhari and his parents were born in the former british colony called nigeria.it was a colony then.was atiku or his parents born in colonial nigeria

More sensible than PDP claim of Buhari being from Sudan but foolish idiots that have problem with APC claim on Atiku wont be able to see that.

Only PDP supporters will reason as pathetically as this OP. It is okay for PDP to claim Buhari is from Sudan after he was a former governor, minister then a president. We all know no part of Katsina was ever seceded to any country yet hopeless PDP as the effrontery to make such a claim but one foolishly hopeless nitwit think it is wrong for APC to claim Atiku is not a Nigerian when we know his mother was formerly from Cameroon with no one able to disclose his father’s hometown n the village he claims to come from was a former colony under Cameroon.

Awon Oloriburuku dede !

Amitez:
Fellow NL, as you may have heard, Nigeria ruling party APC claimed that His Excellency Alh. Atiku Abuakar GCON, GCFR former Vice President of Nigeria (1999 - 2007). Waziri Adanawa, a former chieftain of same APC snd recently presidential candidate of PDP is not a Nigerisn, but a Camerounian.

Of note is the fact that Atiku holds a Nigerian Passport, Nigerian National ID card. His town which is in Adamawa in NE Nigeria is in Nigerian territory. He was Comptroller General of Nigeria customs. Former Governor-elect of Adamawa State, whose business interest, family, etc. are well known in Nigeria.

For me, for such a person to be labelled a foreigner is not only STUPID but highly libellous and subject to litigation and stupendous reparation from the APC. This claim just proves that APC leadership is full of BLOCK HEADS.

I can describe such claim by APC as LUDICROUS!
Pls give your own description of this APC claim in just one worx!

What you guys are seeing is just testing microphone. It is just to rubbish Atiku cos that's who he is. The real defense will be mindboggling. He will be knocked out on technical ground.
So you all can reserve your cry for later days.

Amitez:

Do you even realise how stupid APC petition is? Lets assume howbeit "foolishly" that Atiku was a Camerounian. Those votes belong to PDP, suppose APC loses at the tribunal and PDP is adjudged winner of the election, the votes reverts to PDP vice presidential candidate ìf Atiku was to be a Camerounian. You can see the stupidity in this oetition. I now know that Keyamo guy actually got his SAN from the backdoor. APC is a monumental disaster, honestly!

The votes go to Tambuwal and he can pick anyone he wants as VP.

garfield1:

Apc counter claim is smart.buhari and his parents were born in the former british colony called nigeria.it was a colony then.was atiku or his parents born in colonial nigeria

Stop disgracing yourself.

The election was conducted based on the 1999 constitution and Section 36 of the Nigerian constitution confers retrospective jurisdiction on all Nigerian laws.

So APC's counter-claim is null and void. It will only apply to people that were born after the enactment of that act.

The same set of people who think it is cool to question the president’s secondary school qualification despite the public presentation of his result attestation by the head of WAEC council are the same people crying over APC’s decision to question Atiku’s citizenship.

They even believed Buhari is Jubril from Sudan but can’t stomach the fact that Atiku is an illegal immigrant in Nigeria.

See guys, nobody has monopoly over being stupid and ridiculous. PDP cretins have been flying the kite of silliness all over the place since 2015. There is no big deal if APC indelges in similar silliness that PDP has mastered over the years.

ChristianNorth:

The votes go to Tambuwal and he can pick anyone he wants as VP.

According to which law?

Dannyset:
What you guys are seeing is just testing microphone. It is just to rubbish Atiku cos that's who he is. The real defense will be mindboggling. He will be knocked out on technical ground.
So you all can reserve your cry for later days.

You make counterclaims on technical ground, so what technical grounds are you talking about?

Oga, legal proceeding is procedural. It is not an agbero park where arguments are not moderated. APC have filed their response and nothing again, unless they apply for leave to amend which PDP can argue against and that leave is at the discretion of the court to grant.

There is nothing like mindboggling again.

Again, APC claim against Atiku is faulty because they drew its strength on the present constitution which was enacted in 1999 and the section 36 of the same constitution grant retrospective jurisdiction on all Nigerian laws.

This means you can't be tried with a law that was passed before the crime was committed.

If Mr A commits terrorism in 2009, he can't be tried with an Anti-terrorism Act that was passed in 2011. You have to try him with the extant law during the time of the crime.

Unfortunately for APC, the election was conducted based on the 4th republic constitution.

Simple case to win.

seunmsg:

According to which law?

According to Supreme court precedents.

ChristianNorth:

According to Supreme court precedents.

Wrong. The Supreme Court judgement in the case of Faleke vs Yahaya Bello only applies when the victorious party had a valid candidate. If APC can prove that Atiku is an alien and not eligible to stand for election, PDP’s participation in the last presidential election will be null and void in the face of the law. By implication, PDP did not participate at all in the election not to talk about winning.

Amitez:

So how does Buhari whose birth predates Nigeria become eligible for same office? Was the present grograohical entity in existebce when Buhari was born?
Again, how does the constitution define Nigeria? Is it the 1914 geogrsohical entity or 1960 or 1999 geogrsphical entity? So by your assertion, the people of Bakassi are still Nigerians basis your constitutional analogy? Stop showcasing your ignorance sir.

I'm no Lawyer, but my understanding of the geographical make up of Nigeria is the boundary it had as at October 1st 1960. Atiku became a Nigerian after independence in 1961. Since the present constitution says that the president must be Nigerian "by birth", it means that Atiku may be eligible to seek the office of president since he comes from a territory that was not part of Nigeria as at 1st October 1960.

Something a bit similar happend some years ago when there was debate if Obama could run for president of America because the law is that an American president must be born inside America. Obama was born in Hawaii which is outside mainland America but it was later determined that Obama could run because Hawaii was already become a territory of America as at the time Obama was born and the law was enacted

So Atiku could argue that while he was not born a Nigerian, the territory of Adamawa had become part of Nigeria long before the 1999 constitution was enacted

The case has merits and demerits. It is constitutional Lawyers who know better

ChristianNorth:

You make counterclaims on technical ground, so what technical grounds are you talking about?

Oga, legal proceeding is procedural. It is not an agbero park where arguments are not moderated. APC have filed their response and nothing again, unless they apply for leave to amend which PDP can argue against and that leave is at the discretion of the court to grant.

There is nothing like mindboggling again.

Again, APC claim against Atiku is faulty because they drew its strength on the present constitution which was enacted in 1999 and the section 36 of the same constitution grant retrospective jurisdiction on all Nigerian laws.

This means you can't be tried with a law that was passed before the crime was committed.

If Mr A commits terrorism in 2009, he can't be tried with an Anti-terrorism Act that was passed in 2011. You have to try him with the extant law during the time of the crime.

Unfortunately for APC, the election was conducted based on the 4th republic constitution.

Simple case to win.

I think you're giving out too much for so little. Educating mofos on nairaland should not worth anything. You don't need to respond to every counterclaim, as most of these jobless mofos just want to troll for no reason, except to find something to keep busy. I saw how you were logically decimating one mofo on the other thread, at some point the guy started abusing you - not worth it if you ask me. Maka ndu gi STOP IT!

Coveteousness.

Dannyset:
One m.or.on somewhere woke up one day and said;
A General,
A President, does not have a certificate, after obtaining certificates that can be equated to a degree outside the shores of Nigeria, and decided to challenge that in the tribunal instead of the allegation of rigging and you think you'll are sane?

You don't have the monopoly of stupidity. If you think you can be senseless, some people can also see if it is lucrative.

Two can play the game!

My exact thoughts.
Its tit for tat - anyone can play that game.

#PukkaCameroun

Birther's Theory

Atiku was born on November 25, 1946, a Cameroonian citizen with a birth certificate issued by the Cameroonian government.; Northern Cameroon amalgamated with Nigeria through votes cast in 1959. Only people born on or after 1959 union could claim Nigeria's birthright and birth certificates; those before ( like Atiku) became Nigeria citizens as a result of the amalgamation BUT with a birth certificate of Cameroon.

Nigeria Constitution is explicit enough on who can contest the position of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Those who were born as Nigerians ( not those who benefited from amalgamation, nationalization or honorary citizenship).

No nation re-issues a birth certificate previously issued by another country of birth to accommodate privileges derived as a result of amalgamation, nationalization, etc to a person.

Atiku has a birth certificate that pre-dated Northern Cameroon- Nigeria amalgamation of 1959. Nothing can change that fact.

However, from 1959 onwards Atiku enjoys the citizenship of a Nigerian.but his birthright and birth certificate remain that of a Cameroonian. Nobody is entitled to two birth certificates including Abubakar Atiku. This is his birther theory.

ChristianNorth:

The votes go to Tambuwal and he can pick anyone he wants as VP.

Stop dreaming, your assertion is pre election matter and that was why Apc was silent about it before the election. Now, the issue at hand now is post election matter. Which Constitutional interpretation means PDP didn't present a Nigerian as their Presidential candidate.

When you said Buhari is Jubril from Sudan, we did not put up long faces; we are telling you now that ATIKU is from Cameroon and you cannot take the heat. This small heat.
Shameful.

Afamed:

Stop dreaming, your assertion is pre election matter and that was why Apc was silent about it before the election. Now, the issue at hand now is post election matter. Which Constitutional interpretation means PDP didn't present a Nigerian as their Presidential candidate.

The way you guys interprets the constitution is funny.

The votes are not to Atiku but to PDP. The Supreme Court has already established that precedent and ruled on that multiple times.

Trapping:



I think you're giving out too much for so little. Educating mofos on nairaland should not worth anything. You don't need to respond to every counterclaim, as most of these jobless mofos just want to troll for no reason, except to find something to keep busy. I saw how you were logically decimating one mofo on the other thread, at some point the guy started abusing you - not worth it if you ask me. Maka ndu gi STOP IT!

Thanks