tactius:


Well, the guy I quoted is an atheist who does not beleive Jesus is the son of God nor does he believe that Jesus did any miracles, or whatever.

However, he believes in a guy who was called Jesus, and existed.And has used his proof.

(By the way, I had this answer brought to my attention by another Quoran I follow who happens to be an atheist, and who highly recommended the answer)

Just read the article. You may learn something. Have gone through all the 'Jesus is a myth' and the responses to them in my 15 years on the web, so nothing shocks me anymore.

Are you kidding me? So you call that proof? SMH. Let say that only a mere mortal called Jesus existed, does that make christianity true? Please go read up on history.

I'm shocked at some of the writeups here, most people here don't believe that God exists. Anybody that don't accept the existence of God must be a joker.

When you study the universe very well (not earth) you will see the existence of God. If you study the universe well there is a point where even the so called astrophysicist will get confused and will just cook up any story there because they have reached the human limit

Coming to the church matter. The Bible is one of the the oldest book on earth yet the most up-to-date. Christ existed for those who are Thomas, you have so many evidence, even in the Quran there is a trace of Christ. The problem we have is church, I'm a Christian but don't I don't go to church, I worship in my house. I can't stand the manipulation of all this church.
Suggest any church and I will give you 5 concrete reasons why you should not attend that church

Martinez39:
Jesus never existed. He was a version of early mythical figures. This is just a tourist scam.

It seems the leftover weed you took last night is paying off. Weldon. You can also try SK and tramadol this morning, perhaps this time around you'll discover that death is also a mythical creature

hopefulLandlord:


How are you doing?

Fine

Martinez39:
Jesus never existed. He was a version of early mythical figures. This is just a tourist scam.

I pray you have the Acts 9 experience

Westsida:
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Where are you going? On which day?

The day the long awaited trumpet shall sound

tactius:


Well, the guy I quoted is an atheist who does not beleive Jesus is the son of God nor does he believe that Jesus did any miracles, or whatever.

However, he believes in a guy who was called Jesus, and existed.And has used his proof.

(By the way, I had this answer brought to my attention by another Quoran I follow who happens to be an atheist, and who highly recommended the answer)

Just read the article. You may learn something. Have gone through all the 'Jesus is a myth' and the responses to them in my 15 years on the web, so nothing shocks me anymore.

I believe a guy called Jesus must have existed too. I believe he was just a teacher of morals in his time. Just like there were many other teachers at that same time too. Unfortunately his desperate followers have corrupted his teaching and his history. And everything written about him are mostly impossible nonsense. Most of them were trying to copy stories about other mythical and historic figured before him to lend weight to his teaching. That's why they adapted his virgin birth story from that of other older religions. And also talked about him being hunted by Herod when he was born to make him seem like a saviour of Moses's stature.

I think this is the argument Martinez39 is trying to make. Though his atheism makes him likely to favour total mythicism of Jesus considering the dearth of evidence to the contrary.

Martinez39:
Are you kidding me? So you call that proof? SMH. Let say that only a mere mortal called Jesus existed, does that make christianity true? Please go read up on history.

I have read my history.

If you don't want to read the article I posted...which by the way was written by an expert, who is an atheist like you, i(not poor old me) that's fine.

I just thought that since most atheists I have come into contact are at the very least intelligent, one might be interested in what an expert in the field has to say about the whole Jesus myth

But since you are not interested, good morning to you.

our own DEMON will go there now.kiss d step,climb,pray,snap pics and come online to fight,use the same mouth to spew rubbish.Rhino Omokirikiri

MrPENIS:
I pity people who insists that God and his son Jesus christ do not Exist.
They shall cry blood when they're left behind.
I wish i could just look at their faces on that day, but damn i wont be with them either

Out of curiosity, I'd like to know what prompted your choice of moniker

Griezwoman:
The Holy Stairs Jesus 'climbed before being sentenced to crucifixion' are unveiled after 300 years as pilgrims flock to see marble steps 'stained with Christ's blood'

The marble was covered some 300 years ago on the orders of pope Innocent XIII amid fears it was getting worn down by the hands and knees of worshipers, who caused a dip in the stone of 15cm in some parts.
The 28 steps were believed to be part of Pontius Pilate's palace in Jerusalem and were moved to Rome in the fourth century AD by Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine, who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Now, after a year-long restoration, the staircase has been opened to pilgrims. It will stay open to the public for 60 days, covering the Easter period, ending on June 9.

See more: https://zenithnaija.com/the-holy-stairs-jesus-climbed-before-crucifixion-unveiled-after-300-years-pics/

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fisheryems:


I hate to say this but only you can tell if your great grand parents are myths too.

May God have mercy on your soul.
P.S.. God is not a Christian and he doesn't go to church so don't make the assertion that church misconception is what makes Jesus a myth. Religion is the problem of the world Sir.

Who is God?

NPComplete:


I believe a guy called Jesus must have existed too. I believe he was just a teacher of morals in his time. Just like there were many other teachers at that same time too. Unfortunately his desperate followers have corrupted his teaching and his history. And everything written about him are mostly impossible nonsense. Most of them were trying to copy stories about other mythical and historic figured before him to lend weight to his teaching. That's why they adapted his virgin birth story from that of other older religions. And also talked about him being hunted by Herod when he was born to make him seem like a saviour of Mose's stature.

I think this is the argument Martinez39 is trying to make. Though his atheism makes him likely to favour total mythicism of Jesus considering the dearth of evidence to the contrary.

Are you minding tactius? How can a man as powerful as Jesus have existed without a shred of evidence? Do you know what it means to have the power to perform miracles? Do you know the fame such a person would have? How come there are contemporary accounts of such person?

People are just stupid and love to kid themselves. Jesus of the bible never existed.

When bros J de come

NPComplete:


I believe a guy called Jesus must have existed too. I believe he was just a teacher of morals in his time. Just like there were many other teachers at that same time too. Unfortunately his desperate followers have corrupted his teaching and his history. And everything written about him are mostly impossible nonsense. Most of them were trying to copy stories about other mythical and historic figured before him to lend weight to his teaching. That's why they adapted his virgin birth story from that of other older religions. And also talked about him being hunted by Herod when he was born to make him seem like a saviour of Mose's stature.

I think this is the argument Martinez39 is trying to make. Though his atheism makes him likely to favour total mythicism of Jesus considering the dearth of evidence to the contrary.

I doubt it. He is in essence saying that 'Jesus NEVER EVER ' existed , even the concept of Jesus as a good moral teacher? Never existed.

The beleif has been around for a long period of time. It is based on the 'argument from silence' and it is an argument I don't like...because at the end of the day, you would be arguing that historical figures like Hannibal did not exist because 'we have no contemporary reports from neutral writers about them'

The answer I posted link for is in essence NOT an argument for Jesus as Son of God (I think that is what martinez thinks I am up to...although I am a Chrstian and I beleive in the divinity of Jesus) but an argument against the fake idea that 'Because contemporary figure X did not mention Jesus...therefore Jesus is a myth....which I don't like.

dazzlingd:
By the time these whites finish with Africans ehnnnn

was it unveiled bcoz of Africans or Christians....if u have nothing reasonable to say can't u shut up....

observing....

oh no!another scam\fraud

Africa why ?

Griezwoman:
The Holy Stairs Jesus 'climbed before being sentenced to crucifixion' are unveiled after 300 years as pilgrims flock to see marble steps 'stained with Christ's blood'

The marble was covered some 300 years ago on the orders of pope Innocent XIII amid fears it was getting worn down by the hands and knees of worshipers, who caused a dip in the stone of 15cm in some parts.
The 28 steps were believed to be part of Pontius Pilate's palace in Jerusalem and were moved to Rome in the fourth century AD by Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine, who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Now, after a year-long restoration, the staircase has been opened to pilgrims. It will stay open to the public for 60 days, covering the Easter period, ending on June 9.

See more: https://zenithnaija.com/the-holy-stairs-jesus-climbed-before-crucifixion-unveiled-after-300-years-pics/

The step is in Rome.

Christianity is a Roman religion.

Martinez39:
Are you minding tactius? How can a man as powerful as Jesus have existed without a shred of evidence? Do you know what it means to have the power to perform miracles? Do you know the fame such a person would have? How come there are contemporary accounts of such person?

People are just stupid and love to kid themselves.

You obviously have not read what I posted.

Go and read it. It is not an argument for Jesus the miracle worker. It is an argument for his actual existence.(not whether he did miracles).

And your argument from silence is a flawed one. Most of the evidence we have for many historical figures comes from sources written centuries after they existed. If we took your argument to its logical conclusion, you would end up with riddiculous assertions. Like 'Hannibal Barca never existed because no contemporary writer mentions him"

NPComplete:
Religion is big business I swear. All these guys need do is get any random staircase anywhere and put it in the Vatican and claim it was the staircase of Jesus and religious morons will just come and be kissing it.

These priests know religion is just a tool to control the masses and these relics are another set of tools to manipulate adherents of the religion. Control access to relics and control the people. Keep them in a perpetual cold-turkey mode like crackheads itching for a cocaine fix. LMAO.

They know religion is a scam. They just don't care. That's why they make u all come and kiss stairs while they just keep fvcking the altar-boys.

Same thing with Pentecostals. The pastors tell u u are working for God. Collect ur tithes and build up mansions and businesses for themselves on earth. Show off their wealth they got by manipulating u. Then entice ur daughters with that wealth and sleep with your wives and aunts in hotels and beds paid for with your money.

Man I love religion!!!

Just because the religion of today isn't what religion was in the era of our savior christ jesus and the early apostles according to James 1:27, does not mean that modest, noble, and sincere servants of GOD don't exist.

Yes this is a tourists scan. What about the roads Jesus trekked on when he was alive. Where are the Holy Roads? The Holy Houses he entered. The Holy food he ate. However, Jesus existed. Don't get it twisted. He is my Lord and Saviour. I believe in Him. Give it a shot; you may like it.

Martinez39:
Jesus never existed. He was a version of early mythical figures. This is just a tourist scam.

Dayoara:
You are speaking from a mind that is yet to know God.... I pray the Lord will reveal himself to you.

Must be believe In ur God? Do u believe in his own God?

tactius:


I doubt it. He is in essence saying that 'Jesus NEVER EVER ' existed , even the concept of Jesus as a good moral teacher? Never existed.

The beleif has been around for a long period of time. It is based on the 'argument from silence' and it is an argument I don't like...because at the end of the day, you would be arguing that historical figures like Hannibal did not exist because 'we have no contemporary reports from neutral writers about them'

The answer I posted link for is in essence NOT an argument for Jesus as Son of God (I think that is what martinez thinks I am up to...although I am a Chrstian and I beleive in the divinity of Jesus) but an argument against the fake idea that 'Because contemporary figure X did not mention Jesus...therefore Jesus is a myth....which I don't like.

Why are you acting like evidence for a mere man named Jesus is equivalent to evidence for Jesus the son of god?

"It is based on the 'argument from silence'"
Okay, if you think it's an argument from silence, then you should be inconclusive on whether Jesus of the bible existed or not. To say Jesus of the bible existed, you must have prove. So where is your proof that Jesus of the bible existed? Remember, evidence for a mere mortal named Jesus is not equivalent to the evidence of Jesus the god because both are mutually exclusive.

If a mere mortal named Jesus is shown to exist, it doesn't mean that Jesus the son of god existed and vice versa. So where is you proof for the existence of Jesus the son of god?

You'll really like this song by Xpol. http://www.naijapals.com/music/Basabasa_Rough_Rough__Xpol-92755

tactius:


I doubt it. He is in essence saying that 'Jesus NEVER EVER ' existed , even the concept of Jesus as a good moral teacher? Never existed.

The beleif has been around for a long period of time. It is based on the 'argument from silence' and it is an argument I don't like...because at the end of the day, you would be arguing that historical figures like Hannibal did not exist because 'we have no contemporary reports from neutral writers about them'

The answer I posted link for is in essence NOT an argument for Jesus as Son of God (I think that is what martinez thinks I am up to...although I am a Chrstian and I beleive in the divinity of Jesus) but an argument against the fake idea that 'Because contemporary figure X did not mention Jesus...therefore Jesus is a myth....which I don't like.

What sort of strawman is this?
Hannibal existed. And we know this because of numerous accounts by different people about him. The Romans, his enemy, wrote about him too. Thosesame Romans didnt even mention Jesus. You would think someone like that with that much power and recognition would be known by great Roman historians who were documenting thoroughly the wonders they discovered in conquered lands. Even modern day Barcelona was named after Hannibal's father Hamilcar Barca.

So it is sad that Hannibal who existed years before Jesus has a lot more evidence for his existence amongst his contemporaries than Jesus did. Very sad. So someone must be lying.

See as atheist full thread chaii
Well as for me and my family we will serve the Lord God of Host if u ain't happy with that u can all go to hell
To those that serve Jesus gather here for selfie

NPComplete:


What sort of strawman is this?
Hannibal existed. And we know this because of numerous accounts by different people about him. Even modern day Barcelona was named after his father Hamilcar Barca.

So it is sad that Hannibal who existed years before Jesus has a lot more evidence for his existence amongst his contemporaries than Jesus did. Very sad. So someone must be lying.

No, most sources we have for Hannibal were written centuries after he lived.

You guys should read the link I posted earlier. Then we can talk.

Martinez39:
Jesus never existed. He was a version of early mythical figures. This is just a tourist scam.

Its all about Sun worship on 25th Christmas, Sun worship was well established before the birth of Christ. Google it please.

MrPENIS:
The day the long awaited trumpet shall sound

Says a person whose moniker is MrPenis.

Martinez39:
Jesus never existed. He was a version of early mythical figures. This is just a tourist scam.

Psalm 14. A fool said to himself, there is no God... May God have mercy on u.