MeetDx:
The serpent was a humanoid before it was cursed to crawl on its belly after deceiving Eve and Adam to disobey God; Genesis 3:14

Emmaxx:
NO CHRISTIAN SHOULD BELIEVE THIS UNSCRIPTURAL STATEMENT. The Last Days agents are here to mislead many into heresy!

jesusjnr:
Good we agree on something.

OLAADEGBU:


I knew this was the kind of heretical teaching the OP will fall into if he continues to believe and teach this erroneous teaching.

jesusjnr:
Adaptation to lust more like!

God forbid!

Children are getting raped and abused in a daily and you call it adaptation?

Hope the adaptation according to you never happens to your own child.

jesusjnr:
Breasts, Pen!s, Nipples, Hips, Ovaries, Sperm, Scrotum, Uterus, Vagina, Testicles, Ova, Vulva, Hymen, Clitoris, buttocks and em, em...

Are you still there?

If yes, how do you feel hearing or rather seeing these words?

If uncomfortable, awkward, uneasy and jittery etc., as if you entered the wrong place and about to take off, then there is only one word responsible for that feeling, and it is called lust.

Because all those things I mentioned there are normal things for there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, but it's only lust that makes them to seem otherwise and as though they were evil and of the devil, and meant to cause harm and damage.

For before the coming of lust into the equation of God's creation, it was said:

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Now of course, I had to embolden the word everything for emphasis, for everything that God had made in the beginning inclusive of all those sexual and reproductive organs etc., i mentioned above was not just good in the sight of God but very good.

And that was not only so in God's sight but also the view of man and woman when God first created them, for all those parts were very good in their sight and that's why it was said of them:

Genesis 2:25 (KJV)

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

So the reason they were not ashamed of those body parts, even though they were naked was because they didn't see it as evil or a bad thing but as a good thing.

Therefore it was a good thing until lust happened as it was said:

Genesis 3:7 (KJV)


And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

So that was the moment they began to see those said parts of their body as a bad and evil thing, and hence something to be ashamed of. And it was lust that was responsible for that change in their view about those said body parts, that the once good thing in their sight now appeared to them to be evil.

Of course lust was a consequence of their disobedience of the commandment of God, and it was so bad to the extent that even when God their Creator sought for them, it was said:

Genesis 3:8-10 (KJV)

And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, "Where art thou?"
And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

So lust had made them to not only be ashamed of such body parts before themselves, for now extented the resulting shame to God their Creator, even the one who made those said parts of their body, that they were now hiding themselves from Him.

So it shouldn't be surprising the extent of the disappointment of their Creator to such a development that led Him to asked them this very question:

"...Who told thee that thou wast naked?..." Genesis 3:11 (KJV)

The simple answer to that question is, it was lust.

To be continued.

Emmaxx:
Is it possible for a married man to lust after his wife( female he's legally married to)? If the answer is yes pls, explain how, using the Holy scripture to back up your points. Thanks.

jesusjnr:
I would just explain it to you and you can confirm it for yourself.

Now Adam was married to Eve right?

And these summed up his attitude towards his wife before lust "bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh", while these summed up his attitude towards his wife after lust, "the woman you gave me"

Can you notice the difference?

Now i just did this so that you be able to see the damage and hostility that lust could bring to a marriage, for although she was yet his wife but his attitude towards the same woman changed from one of love, respect and friendship to that of hostility, disregard and hatred.

Now imagine that Adam had other women available for him to chose from as those of this day do, what do you think would have happened to that marriage, but divorce or adultery etc., as it usually is the case today even among married church leaders, and it would have been the consequence of lust.

When Jesus would say that 'he that looks upon a woman to lust after her in his heart, has committed adultery with her in his heart', He very well knew what He was talking about, for lust was never meant to be a factor in marriage, when God first created Adam and Eve.

So the lesser the extent of lust in a marriage as God intended for it to be in the beginning, the better it is for the marriage.

BookEditor:



You are wrong op.

This is based on your own human knowledge, thinking and mind manipulations.

Pornography is the problem also, not just lust alone.

Stop teaching what you don't understand just so that people can praise you.

Very wrong teaching indeed. Everybody wants to be a teacher. If you don't understand the word of the Lord, don't teach it and don't appoint yourself a teacher and start teaching wrong concepts and misleading people.

All your teachings from the beginning of this thread are completely wrong and questionable.

jesusjnr:
I've heard your own opinion of my teachings here concerning lust and nudity, now you should hear what I think of your own opinion.

I think you are entitled to your own opinion just as i am entitled to mine, but in my own opinion your opinion is a product of the extent of your spiritual blindness and ignorance, hence your highly erroneous judgment of my opinion to this extent.

Thank God it's not up to you to determine who is qualified to teach God's Word, otherwise someone as Jesus who taught that "any man who looks upon a woman to lust after her, has already committed adultery in his heart" would not qualify to teach.

Maybe you are happy with the extent of lust in the society where people are raping babies and little children all over the place, and you think that it's because of nudity?

Lust is the problem, and if you can't see it, then that should reveal to you the extent of your blindness.

Image123:


You cannot commit adultery with your wife, duh. You can't commit idolatry by bowing to God. You cannot steal your own property. Are you a kid. Every pornographic picture, film, movie, actor, director knows that unclothedness and its suggestions feed lust. It is a wonder that you don't know this and will claim to have the Holy Spirit of wisdom.

BookEditor:


Lust and nudity and Pornography are the problem. Not lust alone. Don't focus only on lust. Are you trying to say women should open their bodies and dress any how as they do now because it's only when you lust after them that you will look at them? Pornography leads to lust because the eyes are attracted to and moved by what they see. That's what I said.

Stop teaching what you don't understand. You can never know everything. If truly you're a man of God as you claim, you will not use the above words for me. If truly you're doing the work of God, you won't even attack anyone who criticizes you.

Stop twisting my words. The problem is not lust alone. Both Pornography, nudity and lust are not good.

OLAADEGBU:


Would you then say that every married man who lusts after his wife has sinned and should therefore repent?

Emotionss:
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How can you lust after your wife ?

You don't lust after your wife . you DESIRE your wife.

Lust are for those you have ONLY sexual feelings for.

OLAADEGBU:


What will you call it if a husband happens to rape his wife, desire?

Image123:



1Pe 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men.

jesusjnr:
Didn't even realize that this image123 was the same lust "adaptation" moniker.

Let someone ask image123 when I ever said someone can commit adultery with his wife?

You are really adapting to your spiritual blindness and ignorance, Lol!

A man can lust after his wife, that's why a man can rape his own wife, or tell me can a man not rape his own wife, even though he is married to her?

Maybe such a "rape" would also be called adaptation to you, as you seem to see everything via your adaptation lenses.

You are gloating over your extent of ignorance, for you don't even know that lust cannot be fed, if there's no lust to feed.

You can learn more from the thread provided below to see if you could adapt your erroneous mentality to the truth, for there you would be able to see that what you know concerning lust is indeed ignorance compared to what has been revealed to me by the Spirit of Truth, for it's not by noise making but person wey pass you, pass you.

https://www.nairaland.com/5119713/say-no-spread-lust-virus

When Jesus would say that 'he that looks upon a woman to lust after her in his heart, has committed adultery with her in his heart', He very well knew what He was talking about, for lust was never meant to be a factor in marriage, when God first created Adam and Eve.

So the lesser the extent of lust in a marriage as God intended for it to be in the beginning, the better it is for the marriage.

Image123:


Who is this, your twin?

You said and i quote.


Your post implies that since the fall, there is lust inside marriage, and you quoted Jesus talking about lust leading to adultery. If that is not what you mean, then you need to work on ability to pass across your message, or on your grammar.
BTW, i did not explain about adaptation to lust but about adaptation to nudity/unclothedness. Except you have now reversed to say that lust=nudity. You're one confused fellow.

Pentasoft1978:


Please don't be confused...listen....he says looks upon a woman lustfully....what does that mean, it means looking at a woman and imagining her nudeness...looking at a woman and imagining how good her unclothedness will be on bed......so nudity is the problem.....stop thinking nudity, stop imagining nudity.

Emotionss:
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NO RIGHT THINKING man will ever think of rapping his wife. For a man to do such shows that something is wrong with him Both mentally and emotionally.

jesusjnr:
As confused as you say that I am, you seem to be even more confused than I am, for I asked you a simple question when did i say that a man lusting after his wife has committed adultery?

And you went ahead boldly provide my quoting of Jesus saying, to prove that I said so, even though Jesus Himself did not even say so.

So maybe now my quoting of you, means i am the one that said what you said, but what is even the point of what you're saying?

If you had judged me for saying that a man could lust after his wife, i'd be guilty as charged and raise my hands up, because that was the exact point I made there in order to prove that lust is not perfect even in marriage, as it could damage things, and Jesus saying to denounce all forms of lust, even that which is of the heart, justified that position.

But of course you are so desperate to pin your figment upon me that I said that a man could commit adultery with his wife, so rejoice and be glad in your confusion.

p.s. The conclusion of the matter on all your adaptation ideas is that it is simply an endorsement of lust.

Image123:



SMH, you need God to help you.

jesusjnr:
Maybe the god that has helped you to adapt to lust! SMH too!

Image123:


Evidently among what you need help for is comprehension. You are deliberately twisting what i said? Do you think God saw that? Oh, you believe in God? My bad.

femarse:


while u are right majority of the text , u are wrong in some aspect , first of all , lust is the problem not nudity but from my point of view , since Adam and Eve eat the fruit , lust becomes a factor in every single man and woman , it becomes a significant factor that can never and ever be eradicated which is why God introduce clothing as a stop gap solution which is also why we must all cover up at all times to prevent lust

femarse:


1 lust is automatically in every man and woman (a typical example is if u said u conquer the problem of lust and if a lady is to stay with u for a month and thru out the month she was naked , will u be able to resist the lust? let's assumed u were able to because u no longer have lust in you , does that also apply to everyone in the street who will see the same lady going about her business fully naked?

femarse:


when God introduce clothing , I believe his foolishness is wiser than any man wisdom and since the time of eating the fruit , man has freedom of choice , the cloth is to reduce what man can see and hence affect his decision/judgement, the cloth is to bring back morality , for man to see woman from love point of view and not from lust point of view, the cloth act in a way Adam was seeing eve before they ate the fruit, even with this, women have been sowing cloth in a way that sidestep the original plan of cloth itself by sowing cloth that almost equate nudity bringing back the original Lust God was trying to cover

femarse:


women especially has been trying hard this days to go back to nudity even in cloth but to what ends? exactly why do u think every female on Instagram is either semi naked or fully naked ? because they are comfortable in nudity ? no but because they are lustful not for sex but for money and sex is one way to bring money

lust is mostly associated with sex but on many occasions it's not sex the primary reason but money .

femarse:


Yes Jesus was trying to remove the original sin "lust" but even him walk around in cloth because if he remove his cloth because he want to set example so we could actually do away with lust , there are people who will try to rape him (men/women) which in so doing has made those people to sin because of his own behavior

femarse:


in a nutshell we can not pretend nudity is not a factor , it's a very big factor and no matter who u are , nudity can affect your judgement, God is so wise when he introduced clothing , why did u think nudity is the most sellable product in the world ? even when u have shaded ur mind from nudity , u can still fall for it , because lust is in you , but with moderation from everyone , it can be conquer , if u conquer it , can I? can the numerous people on this forum ?