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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:14am On Apr 15, 2019
samorobo:
Vaxx and the rest ghanians I don't think your fellow ghanians feel positive about this project.
One even called ghana a failed state. I thought y'all like you country with passion.I guess no one supports ghana except y'all
This is not the best way to debate. In every political sphere, there is always an opposition. They will never support what the other party do.

Beside what is wrong in taking a loan from china to have this project done. Abuja rail was constructed by china MONEY and so is lagos current project.

The good thing about the project is, Ghana is not paying back in cash but with resources worth 2 billion dollars.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:16am On Apr 15, 2019
jaycent:
Well I told them that, there's nothing in Ghana they thought I was joking. grin grin

This is even small. Go deep inside their forum and find news about Ghana. you will just stop arguing with this people on Nairaland here grin grin
what are you saying? So citizens SHOULD not criticize their Goverment?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:21am On Apr 15, 2019
JaceBlaze:
Who said she retired .She is a wizard that is never late nor early,she comes precisely when she means to cheesy .Wena just keep poking the hive with that stick and see what happens grin

she's super late these days. Usually she should have showed up guns blazing when we were pummeling you on xenophobia grin Look at how freely we did it against you and Xhosa. We had to go slow purely out of mercy and wisdom grin Even that kwerekwere called kumamoto had a free hand beating the hell out of SA grin

wena, i'll keep pummelling the hive till she shows up wink grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:24am On Apr 15, 2019
jaycent:
Tasha has been fvcked by a mad dog grin

That's why I called him Gindi Maria grin
grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:28am On Apr 15, 2019
donkizzydaboss:
Lagos light rail would really fit the city when completed. .Ghana learn
You think Ghana is sleeping. Just type on your Google tap: current infrastructure in Ghana.

Ghana needs to spend at least 1.5 billion dollar annually to close its infrastructure deficit, do you know how much Nigeria needs. This is to tell you how much Nigeria needs to go.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:30am On Apr 15, 2019
theenchanter:
u're actually d one getting ahead of urself, i was talking about power downtime which is 5hrs a day. I said I receive power at 12noon till 7am the following morning (19hrs) and no downtime on weekends.

whats the difference between what you're saying and what am saying? You get power from 12 noon to 7 am the following morning which means between 7 am and 12 noon you usually have no power. Like right now you have no power you are either in power saver mode or generator back up mode. I was simply focusing on the lack of power bit while you were focusing on the availability of power bit due (to our differences in perception of what makes news). We are saying the same thing. When you say 19 hrs of power (which is news to you) it means 5 hrs of no power, while when I say 5 hrs of no power (which is news to me) it automatically means 19 hrs of power (which + the 5 hrs is the norm in civilized societies and = no news). In my superhuman ethnic group they say when it is a case of dog bite man there's no news, BUT, if it is a case of man bite dog then thats news!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:32am On Apr 15, 2019
jaycent:
Tasha has been fvcked by a mad dog grin

That's why I called him Gindi Maria grin

See now the effect of watching too much dog porn gaykuma grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:10am On Apr 15, 2019
vaxx2:
This is not the best way to debate. In every political sphere, there is always an opposition. They will never support what the other party do.

Beside what is wrong in taking a loan from china to have this project done. Abuja rail was constructed by china MONEY and so is lagos current project.

The good thing about the project is, Ghana is not paying back in cash but with resources worth 2 billion dollars.
Ghana is not even paying with resources but with processed Aluminium

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 10:13am On Apr 15, 2019
Just30:
Ghana is not even paying with resources but with processed Aluminium
Is the project not part of the 15 billion dollar arrangement.. where bauxite are going to be exchange?

The process aluminium from valco right?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:31am On Apr 15, 2019
rvp2018:
Samrobo,
Kenya will be at South Africa current level in 10yrs - Nairobi by then will be Africa's Capital City (it already well under-way with most companies picking it her over Joburg).

Ten years ago - South Africa GDP was around 290B dollars - now at 2019 is projected to be around 370B.

Ten years ago - Kenya GDP was around 35B dollars - now at 2019 - it is projected to be 100B (3 times!! bigger).

We know Kenya's growth is broad-based, well diversified, has hit a sweatspot of 6% growth rate year on year and it about to reap demographic dividends - and unlike the oil or commodity dependant economies - like Nigeria or Angola - we can expect the momentum to be maintained.Kenya gov expect the economy to be around 150B by 2023.

South Africa medium-term economic prognosis is very bad - 1-2% growth rate - for next few years.

So 10 yrs from now - Kenya GDP will probably 300B - South Africa will be around 450B - around 2019.

By around 2032 - Kenya and South Africa will probably be around 500B - if Kenya won't have overtaken RSA at that point.

Nigeria probably won't exist as country then - Oil will be on it's way out - and Nigeria would be busy in civil war.


Todays Nation quotes the IMF saying our GDP will hit 10.1 trillion kshs! For some reason I can't find a link.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:50am On Apr 15, 2019
Afcon u-17

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:35am On Apr 15, 2019
Latest gem addition to Nairobi

Glass Walkway at 24 floors, Le' Mac Tower cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 11:40am On Apr 15, 2019
TayserMahri:


she's super late these days. Usually she should have showed up guns blazing when we were pummeling you on xenophobia grin Look at how freely we did it against you and Xhosa. We had to go slow purely out of mercy and wisdom grin Even that kwerekwere called kumamoto had a free hand beating the hell out of SA grin

wena, i'll keep pummelling the hive till she shows up wink grin grin
Perhaps she got important matters that require the highest degree of her attention than to worry about some e-battles that don't benefit anyone at the end of the day. wink

lol what did kumamoto (whoever the f*** that is) say that was worth noting regarding xenophobia?

Haha be careful what you wish for cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:58am On Apr 15, 2019
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-tips-Kenya-economy-to-hit-Sh10trn-this-year/539546-5072338-view-asAMP-14ls2qiz/index.html

kikuyu1:


Todays Nation quotes the IMF saying our GDP will hit 10.1 trillion kshs! For some reason I can't find a link.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:01pm On Apr 15, 2019
I know a lass friend of mine who would sh*t in her pants when made to walk through this suspended glass walkway!
TayserMahri:
Latest gem addition to Nairobi

Glass Walkway at 24 floors, Le' Mac Tower cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:06pm On Apr 15, 2019
With goodwill and just a slight change in our leadership style, we can do 7 percentile growth per annum or even more than that. But in a typical Kenyan way we will forever do the 5 and 6 percent!
rvp2018:
Samrobo,
Kenya will be at South Africa current level in 10yrs - Nairobi by then will be Africa's Capital City (it already well under-way with most companies picking it her over Joburg).

Ten years ago - South Africa GDP was around 290B dollars - now at 2019 is projected to be around 370B.

Ten years ago - Kenya GDP was around 35B dollars - now at 2019 - it is projected to be 100B (3 times!! bigger).

We know Kenya's growth is broad-based, well diversified, has hit a sweatspot of 6% growth rate year on year and it about to reap demographic dividends - and unlike the oil or commodity dependant economies - like Nigeria or Angola - we can expect the momentum to be maintained.Kenya gov expect the economy to be around 150B by 2023.

South Africa medium-term economic prognosis is very bad - 1-2% growth rate - for next few years.

So 10 yrs from now - Kenya GDP will probably 300B - South Africa will be around 450B - around 2019.

By around 2032 - Kenya and South Africa will probably be around 500B - if Kenya won't have overtaken RSA at that point.

Nigeria probably won't exist as country then - Oil will be on it's way out - and Nigeria would be busy in civil war.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:15pm On Apr 15, 2019
Fuel crisis hit nigerian hard. People are now quing up for petrol in nigeria like dogs right now.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:17pm On Apr 15, 2019
JaceBlaze:
Perhaps she got important matters that require the highest degree of her attention than to worry about some e-battles that don't benefit anyone at the end of the day. wink

lol what did kumamoto (whoever the f*** that is) say that was worth noting regarding xenophobia?

Haha be careful what you wish for cheesy

Sure she got important matters to attend to grin wink

Our mission and her mission were aligned for the most part (which was schooling the loud mouthed folksy), and it is already done and dusted. What remains now is stamping authority which we, and I in particular, are specialists grin

kumamoto said lots of things if I repeated them you would go for my jugular grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:18pm On Apr 15, 2019
Senegal's Sadio Mane is going to have a field day playing with us. The lad is a much gifted footballer.
TayserMahri:



Too bad. The area has not been having regular fires leading to massive buildup of fuel over decades so its def going to be hard to control with the steep cliffs and ready matter. Hope they have made good progress. Teams from Kenya, SA and France had arrived and Israelis arrived today from what I read. Henceforth, wendem, you need to invest on containing wildfires. Get those planes. In Kenya they are very crucial in containing the very first instances of fire typically within minutes before the fire reaches your magnitude.




Our group is tough with Algeria and Senegal. We can only hope for a draw with the two but thank goodness we were given Tanzania !!! Even before kickoff the Tanzanians are usually 1-0 down psychologically to us. If we scrap out a win against either Senegal or Algeria we would have a good chance. You have to consider that every team in the group has three points in the bag from the Tanzania game.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:21pm On Apr 15, 2019
I am getting first-hand report that people in nigeria are now suffering from all corners

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:21pm On Apr 15, 2019
Jonraid:
I know a lass friend of mine who would sh*t in her pants when made to walk through this suspended glass walkway!

Lol, even some males would sht their briefs wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:24pm On Apr 15, 2019
Jonraid:
Senegal's Sadio Mane is going to have a field day playing with us. The lad is a much gifted footballer.

Plus we have a very poor record against Senegal. We have a much better chance against Algeria. We share a 50-50 win rate with Algeria (3 wins each and one draw, all in competitive matches).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 12:25pm On Apr 15, 2019
TayserMahri:


Sure she got important matters to attend to grin wink

Our mission and her mission were aligned for the most part (which was schooling the loud mouthed folksy), and it is already done and dusted. What remains now is stamping authority which we, and I in particular, are specialists grin

kumamoto said lots of things if I repeated them you would go for my jugular grin
How is your your team Gor mahia?
Are they still stranded at the airport after failing to get money for a hotel rooms?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:30pm On Apr 15, 2019
So Kenya's president was in Mauritius and Mauritians are full of praise for Kenya's role in Africa's emancipation

>>>Article in one of their Daily Newspapers.

Digital Disruption in Kenya = African Emancipation

Think Kenya, and many of us will tend to think of electoral conflicts, ethnic violence, dynastic politics, pervasive corruption, drug trafficking, or even transnational security threats. These characteristics are both true and a caricature! While Kenya, like many other countries on the continent, is facing a daunting list of traditional challenges, digital platforms/social media are having a positive impact on its political life. In fact, Kenya can easily be classified as one of the most digitally developed countries in today’s Africa. There is so much we could, and should, learn from Africa’s “Silicon Savannah”..

Having worked for some time in Kenya, I knew about Ushahidi (an amazing crowd-sourcing platform for social activism), witnessed the popular use of M-Pesa (mobile money), but I only recently discovered the book Digital Democracy, Analogue Politics (first published in 2018) by the political scientist and Kenyan writer, Nanjala Nyabola, who splendidly depicts digital democracy from a Kenyan perspective. In this acclaimed research work, Nyabola challenges existing scholarship on African tech by exploring how state agency and “the politics of offline spaces” have consequences “for what happens online.”

The key question, Nyabola asks, is why are so many governments threatened by the widespread embrace of digital space? Kenya does give us an excellent sample of this because millions of Kenyans are active online. Many traditional discussions on technology adoption in the developing world have singled out Kenya as a place where there are possibilities for building a profitable digital and digitised democracy. “This country has everything to gain by consolidating a robust public sphere, but is also investing a great deal of time and money into policing online behaviour: what does that say about our ideas of digital democracy ?” argues Nanjala Nyabola, who clearly did not want to engage with the naive, optimistic view that more technology = more democracy. Were we to follow this simplistic equation, China would be perceived as the most democratic country on the planet...

Instead, Nyabola takes the Habermassian view that communication constitutes the basis for human behaviour. It is in the public sphere that ideas are negotiated and a national narrative is produced. “Whose voice counts in the public sphere? Is the public sphere restricted to the formal patriarchal political sphere, or do the ideas and opinions generated in other spheres that are shaped by social and cultural boundaries matter as well? If so, how are they made to matter?” are the questions that come to mind when one reads Nayabola’s fascinating account of Kenya’s digital and media landscape.

Kenyan media’s structure of ownership and its strong reliance on state-sponsored advertisements influence the narrative. Many stories, according to the author, fail to reflect the daily reality of most Kenyans.The first part of her book talks about the political conditions at the time of the Kenyan 2007 election, “which primed the country for digital change.” But when irregularities in the 2007 election were discovered, simmering tensions exploded. Live broadcasts were banned and there was a gagging order against the Kenyan press. “An educated, concerned diaspora and a public hungry for news were thus caught between the fury of an international press and the tame, self-censored Kenyan media. The internet served as a space for information dissemination during this critical period.”

In Part Two of her book, Nyabola focuses on the discourse created by the #KOT community: Kenyans on Twitter. Although she mentions the increasing use of other platforms such as Whatsapp, Facebook etc., Nyabola describes the ways in which KOT have exerted agency over the telling of their stories, such as “in pushing back against the specific framing of stories by foreign media with humour, creativity and satire, as well as against official narratives, thus holding the government accountable.”

Today, there are one million largely English-speaking, urban Kenyan Twitter users and 10 million Whatsapp users in a country of around 50 million.

Although Nyabola is quite optimistic about the political potential of Kenya’s digital space, she is not uncritical of the structure of the space itself. She recognises that many of the power hierarchies in offline spaces tend to be reproduced online: for example, women are still subject to more harassment online than men. Nyabola describes the organising of radical Kenyan feminists on the Internet on key issues such as domestic violence and the proper representation of women in Parliament in line with the Constitution.

But technology is never neutral. The platforms used by Kenyans and Mauritians are owned and controlled by profit-driven US companies. That is, people can fund these platforms: for example, “by creating bot farms to foist content on users, run smear campaigns, spread false information and shape users’ opinion without their consent.” Russia is suspected of engaging in such digital warfare during the 2016 US elections and 2018 Madagascar elections. Cambridge Analytica utilised the data from Facebook to shift public opinion during the Brexit referendum and Trump election in 2016. If the world had been paying attention to what Cambridge Analytica was doing in Kenya in 2013, Nyabola posits that “the current crises regarding interference in the US election and Brexit referendum might have been averted...”

”The only thing that is certain from 2007 to 2017 and everything in between is that Kenyans want agency over shaping that future, and will use whatever space they see in order to do that. But what matters is this: the underlying theme in the conversation is not conflict, it is agency”. Ultimately, democracy is about ideas. At the nexus between politics and technology, what ideas are pushed forward ? Which ideas are constrained? Who has the power to share ideas and who doesn’t?

Kenyans are more than ever determined to reclaim the agency to shape their own stories...This is indeed a great lesson for all of us!

https://www.lexpress.mu/node/350859

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:33pm On Apr 15, 2019
More Kenya Mauritius Business Summit...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:35pm On Apr 15, 2019
Kazikazi:
How is your your team Gor mahia?
Are they still stranded at the airport after failing to get money for a hotel rooms?
pwo pwo pwo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 12:41pm On Apr 15, 2019
Hohohohoho...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:41pm On Apr 15, 2019
Kumamoto, we told you you cant run a country like a kiosk.

Dominant

Kenya’s economy is expected to remain dominant in the region, staying ahead of its rivals in terms of overall size and the welfare of the average citizen as expressed in GDP per capita.

Ethiopia’s GDP, which was previously tipped to overtake Kenya’s economy, is now projected to grow 7.7 per cent to $90.9 billion (Sh9 trillion) this year.

That of Uganda is expected to expand 6.2 per cent to $30.3 billion (Sh3 trillion).

Tanzania is estimated to register the lowest growth rate of 3.9 per cent to $61 billion (Sh6.1 trillion), interrupting its recent rapid expansion that has stood at more than six per cent per annum.


https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-tips-Kenya-economy-to-hit-Sh10trn-this-year/539546-5072338-view-asAMP-14ls2qiz/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 12:42pm On Apr 15, 2019
TayserMahri:

pwo pwo pwo
That noise won't help u to pay for a hotel room!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:43pm On Apr 15, 2019
Kazikazi:
That noise won't help u to pay for a hotel room!

Neither will yours grow your economy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:06pm On Apr 15, 2019
I see IMF have raised their 2023 - If the IMF projections hold out, Kenya’s economy could grow to Sh15.7 trillion in 2023.

Previously they claimed kenya economy would be 12.8 kshs or 128B in 2023.

Look like Morrocco is the next - then maybe Algeria - and we can face the big giants of Egypt & South Africa - Nigeria

Jonraid:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-tips-Kenya-economy-to-hit-Sh10trn-this-year/539546-5072338-view-asAMP-14ls2qiz/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 1:14pm On Apr 15, 2019
TayserMahri:


Sure she got important matters to attend to grin wink

Our mission and her mission were aligned for the most part (which was schooling the loud mouthed folksy), and it is already done and dusted. What remains now is stamping authority which we, and I in particular, are specialists grin

kumamoto said lots of things if I repeated them you would go for my jugular grin
I'm not her advocate but I think she got tired of nairaland...just like I soon will be.

LMAO,then in conclusion we can say your mission was futile cause the "loud mouthed folksy" haven't learned anything as you can see their stupidity is at its apex.You think anyone who's stupid enough to sail the Mediterranean with a worn-out/rusty boat will heed these e-thrashings? cheesy grin .Give it up Tayser!!..I have given up.At least start by teaching them how to walk upright before you bombard their primate brains with human psyche angry

No,I don't have the energy for that,Tay.BTW,who the F is kumamoto

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