Beorn:


Wrong.

Killmonger knew he's of royal blood and had the right to contest for the throne. He knew he's a Wakandian. He knew the traditions and knew he stood a chance in a fight with T'challa if his powers were removed according to the customs.

Beorn:


How are arguments of recent, bigotry? What exactly is the meaning of bigotry? Because the definition I know of doesn't tally with your description. Or are people meant to have linear thoughts and acceptance of opinions?

alexistaiwo:
Who sold blacks into slavery?

Don't write an essay.
Just answer the question point blank.

oyetpel:


Google it and check back koice and pryme pages back.

AfroSamurai:
damn. Love this movie even till this very moment.

Matilda and her powers. Was kinda hoping they would have done a sequel to the movie, but nope. It'd be nice to see a grown Matilda using her powers to save the world.

Girl was a genius.

KoiceReloaded:
Fire on guys, I'm enjoying the discussions. Good points, Beorn. Without the arguments, this thread will be very much like the tv series thread; a ghost town.


Btw, last night's UCL match between Spurs and City na fire. It's easily the match of the season IMO. 4 goals scored within the first 11 minutes. Madness.

JeromeBlack:


What about the last minute disallowed goal?
That match had more drama than Telemundo!!

JeromeBlack:



In the case of people like Jaja of Opobo, he was killed by whites because he did not allow slavery of his people. This is what is left out of history books.

Kindly look at your brother or family, would you sell them for gold? Many african tribes resisted slavery but they were killed or subdued into it.

While I accept that there were some tribes that sold their fellow black men into slavery, I will also point out that there were Jews who collaborated with Nazis. Think about that.

JeromeBlack:



cc Beorn, Afrosamurai, koicereloaded.

You see why I am very angry and abusive towards certain people here when it comes to race? Just look at the comment from Alexistaiwo, a tyrpical Nigerian that has never traveled out of his country- a toxic mixture of self-hatred and ignorance.

Look at all the nonsense that this guy has written in bold!

Let me summarize his foolishness

-Slavery was a luxury
-12 years of Jewish holocaust is worse than 300 years of slavery
-Jews were real victims because they did not have a history of being criminals like blacks (his own words)
-Blacks slaves had hope because despite slavery they were in a better country than shithole Africa


This guy is the kind of guy that will blame a black victim of police brutality for wearing dreadlocks or being "disrespectful"

JeromeBlack:

alexistaiwo:
I only abandoned the argument because you lack the IQ to understand the technicalities of the argument.


If Arabs have been dealing in using blacks as slave since genesis, it is because their fellow blacks were also dealing in the slave trade.
For there to be demand, there must be supply.

Blacks are the ones who sold their fellow blacks out.
Hope you are aware even though the conditions of the black slaves were inhumane, there was still a tiny light at the end of tunnel because they were leaving their shithole for the slim chance of better lives elsewhere.

Back to present day, truth is bitter but it must be said.
Blacks will more often than not engage in social vices (drugs, fraud and the likes) when they get to the white man's land then turn around when they are stereotyped (not excusing this).


Can the same be said for the Jews?
Jews weren't given such luxury to be slaves in hope of one day buying their way to freedom.
They were outrightly executed not because they have a long notorious history of being criminals like the blacks but because of pure hatred.

I don't have time to write any more epistle.

Some arguments are best left for real time discussion.

I am out

KoiceReloaded:


For real. It was hilarious. VAR somehow stole the show. The real MVP.

oyetpel:

Seems you are getting bored these days.

Beorn:


Some of the guys words were cringe worthy TBH. I couldn't believe he wrote about light at the end of the tunnel for people turned to slaves against their wills. Degraded, dehumanized, starved, killed, subjected to the worst form of inhumane treatment, had light at the end of which tunnel?

Beorn:


I was crying in my heart reading some of the ludicrous nonsense you typed. How could you type such tripe with a straight face? SMH.

KoiceReloaded:

Context?

oyetpel:

Google it and check back koice and pryme pages back.

oyetpel:

You know you know it.

JeromeBlack:



Stop arguing unnecessary. I did not mean that he didnt know that he had the right to contest for the throne.

My point is that he couldnt have known that he would win against T'challa. Or even going back, T'challa could choose not to honor traditions as Killmonger was already too late. He could have executed Killmonger on the spot. See game of thrones....

KoiceReloaded:

Know what?

oyetpel:

That you are bored

oyetpel post=77437499 :


Google it and check back koice and pryme pages back.

Beorn:


I had Googled it before asking you. What I saw are two people who wouldn't agree with each other but are still not bigots. Koice might sound condescending sometimes without him being aware of it, but he's not intolerant of people's opinion to the best of my knowledge. Boko haram and the legions of Nigerians that approve the killing or jailing of homosexuals are examples of bigots.

Beorn:


Yes, T'challa could've chosen not to honor the traditions, but that doesn't mean that Killmonger didn't know he'd be successful against T'challa without powers if he honors the tradition. T'challa without his powers is just like everyone one out there. Nothing special for a US black ops soldier like Killmonger to be afraid of.

Beorn:
JeromeBlack, I understand your umbrage about racism that blacks suffers. But I think you're letting your emotions cloud some factual reasoning.


While there were Africans that resisted the sale of blacks into slavery like Jaja of Opobo, there were other blacks that willingly sold their brothers for guns, money and other gifts the white could give them.

I'm not trying to absolve the whites of any wrong, but the blacks had their faults in that slavery horror story. The artifacts were looted as well when they took over our lands, but you can't count out that some dumb blacks must've exchanged some of them for some ammunitions, mirrors and other stuffs the white had to offer. But majority of them were forcefully stolen.

alexistaiwo:
If I want a lesson on history, I know where to look so save me the lecture.


My question is "who sold blacks into slavery? "

alexistaiwo:
That is why I said it is difficult to grasp the technicalities of the argument unless you can think objectively.




There are evils then there are EVILS


between living as a slave with a tiny hope of freedom and being sent to a concentration camp and subsequently gas chambers to be used as a mad man's lab rat.


I believe one of the two is a lesser evil and any reasonable person will know which is which.