Beorn:


Both are evils, bro. While that of Jews might seen heftier to you, I'd like to let you thst the whites did more than just slavery, they looted our history, destroyed some of our cultures, massacred any of ud that stood up to them. Many slaves were thrown off the ships on their way to Europe. Many dies under hardships or lack of medical care. It's easy for you to see the Jews massacre as more deadly because of the statistics written. If you know the true numbers of blacks that died when the white invaded us, including those tortured or worked themselves to death, you won't be typing these opinions of yours.

The reason why you feel that blacks that were sold off are better off is because of how modernized and successful the whites have been, while our dumb leaders keep taking African backward. The blacks now in foreign country might be living in a much better and improved lifestyle than the blacks in this shithole country, but their forefathers paid for it with their lives, blood and sweat.

Preach on brother, preach!!

oyetpel:


That's extreme bigotry.

Me, I don't see the debate between Pryme and Koice as bigotry. Just two strong opinionated individuals that won't agree with each other. Maybe theirs is light bigotry.


Koice the bigot. Sounds funny.

Like I said earlier, some discussions are best left for real time.

Slavery has been around since time immemorial but to just wake up and start executing people because of their origin that is genocide (which is a different ball game).

Are blacks the only race sold into slavery?
Were Asians not also sold into slavery?

But today, the Asians are commanding more respect from the international community than blacks, sit down and ask yourself WHY?


I remember telling you about the Chinese the other day, Africans should stop playing the victim card and build your continent to a respectable standard where the whole world will sit up and take notice.
Your leaders will loot your continent blind and hide the funds in the white man land.
Your citizens will leave their continent for the white man land with the get or die trying mentality.
In your own country, you will give the white man unmerited preferential treatment over your more qualified fellow black man and later turn around to play the victim card forgetting that for every action, there is a corresponding reaction






I am not saying anything about this issue again.

JeromeBlack:
Alexistaiwo,

Speaking about not understanding the technicalities, I find it funny that you cannot see how flawed your "evidence" for Jews being more victimized is.

First is that there are black Jews and Muslims
Second is that "Jew" refers to both religion and race


Third is that the article adjusts for total percentages which is wrong in this case because of many statistical problems with definitions and parameters. When you look at the raw statistics from that 2015 FBI page, you will find that there have been 1,605 hate crime offenders against blacks and then only 387 hate crime offenders against Jews.

In short, that article is trash. I knew it before going to research it.

Beorn:


Both are evils, bro. While that of Jews might seen heftier to you, I'd like to let you thst the whites did more than just slavery, they looted our history, destroyed some of our cultures, massacred any of ud that stood up to them. Many slaves were thrown off the ships on their way to Europe. Many dies under hardships or lack of medical care. It's easy for you to see the Jews massacre as more deadly because of the statistics written. If you know the true numbers of blacks that died when the white invaded us, including those tortured or worked themselves to death, you won't be typing these opinions of yours.

The reason why you feel that blacks that were sold off are better off is because of how modernized and successful the whites have been, while our dumb leaders keep taking African backward. The blacks now in foreign country might be living in a much better and improved lifestyle than the blacks in this shithole country, but their forefathers paid for it with their lives, blood and sweat.

Beorn is on fire.

Beorn:


Me, I don't see the debate between Pryme and Koice as bigotry. Just two strong opinionated individuals that won't agree with each other. Maybe theirs is light bigotry.


Koice the bigot. Sounds funny.

I don't think the guy knows the practical definition of bigotry. He has a grudge against me sha.

JeromeBlack:


See this one talking. Can you beat that hulking beast called Mbaku? T'challa beat Mbaku

What if T'challa studied MMA/UFC? Do you know that most people, including marines cannot beat a professional UFC fighter?

For killmonger, it was a gamble.

LMAO. JeromeBlack, I swear you're confused sometimes. Weren't you the one some days talking about how "hulking beasts" type of humans don't stand a chance against "lean" type of humans in a fight/boxing?

Now that it's not Bale Batman being discussed, you've abandoned your support for Bale/Killmonger's physique and given the upper hand to the bulky Mbaku's physique that you overlooked before. Clown.

Oyetpel, why the beef na? What's the problem? Did I steal your woman? Chill bro.

alexistaiwo:
Like I said earlier, some discussions are best left for real time.

Slavery has been around since time immemorial but to just wake up and start executing people because of their origin that is genocide (which is a different ball game).

Are blacks the only race sold into slavery?
Were Asians not also sold into slavery?

But today, the Asians are commanding more respect from the international community than blacks, sit down and ask yourself WHY?


I remember telling you about the Chinese the other day, Africans should stop playing the victim card and build your continent to a respectable standard where the whole world will sit up and take notice.
Your leaders will loot your continent blind and hide the funds in the white man land.
Your citizens will leave their continent for the white man land with the get or die trying mentality.
In your own country, you will give the white man unmerited preferential treatment over your more qualified fellow black man and later turn around to play the victim card forgetting that for every action, there is a corresponding reaction






I am not saying anything about this issue again.

After Beorn has calmly corrected you, you still come back with this trash? I know that I can be very harsh/abusive sometimes and I felt Beorn's calm manner would get through to you. Sadly, you are block head. If you had a superpower, it would be the sheepish stubborness of a goat. Goatman.



Was any other race enslaved for 700 years? hmmm?

Na argue I argue, I no kee somebody na

JeromeBlack:



After Beorn has calmly corrected you, you still come back with this trash? I know that I can be very harsh/abusive sometimes and I felt Beorn's calm manner would get through to you. Sadly, you are block head. If you had a superpower, it would be the sheepish stubborness of a goat. Goatman.



Was any other race enslaved for 700 years? hmmm?

KoiceReloaded:

I don't think the guy knows the practical definition of bigotry. He has a grudge against me sha.

Koice the bigot.

Beorn:

Koice the bigot.

Just imagine.

Alextaiwo, sites will quickly tell you that about 3 million Jews were murdered, but none will give you the estimated number of blacks that have lost their lives to the white colonization and slavery. They don't have the statistics because if they'd do, you'll shocked at how many of us died back in Africa not to talk of in their countries.

A lot of us would prefer to die a free man than live as slaves. Killmonger's words should guide you.

KoiceReloaded:
Oyetpel, why the beef na? What's the problem? Did I steal your woman? Chill bro.

Was trying to clarify something, sorry for citing you into it.

JeromeBlack:



After Beorn has calmly corrected you, you still come back with this trash? I know that I can be very harsh/abusive sometimes and I felt Beorn's calm manner would get through to you. Sadly, you are block head. If you had a superpower, it would be the sheepish stubborness of a goat. Goatman.



Was any other race enslaved for 700 years? hmmm?

Savage raised to the power of murder.

Beorn:


LMAO. JeromeBlack, I swear you're confused sometimes. Weren't you the one some days talking about how "hulking beasts" type of humans don't stand a chance against "lean" type of humans in a fight/boxing?

Now that it's not Bale Batman being discussed, you've abandoned your support for Bale/Killmonger's physique and given the upper hand to the bulky Mbaku's physique that you overlooked before. Clown.

You are the one confusing arguments. I never said that hulking beasts do not stand a chance against lean fighters. The point was that lean guys are better suited to fighting with speed. Take for instance, the UFC champions are not usually hulking guys because speed matters a lot in ufc.

Hulking guys do have their advantages- they have reach and have crushing ability.


That being said...Mbaku did try to crush Tchalla.

JeromeBlack:


Whataboutery!

Please, stop talking out of point. For all we know, Killmonger could have been killed on sight in Wakanda. His father was killed by the king then, what stops the new king from seeing him as an enemy?

Killmonger went to fight for the throne. He had no way of knowing that he would be successful. After all, T'challa is a warrior on his own right.

Killmonger was determined to succeed in Africa despite the odds being against him. That is not a typical african american.

I said "a chance at the throne." I never implied he knew he was going to succeed. Besides he did his homework. You think he just randomly happened upon the Border tribe with Claue. There was a slimmer chance of him being executed or not gaining an audience, after turning up with one of Wakanda's most hated terrorists.

To even counteract the nonsense that you are arguing about if killmonger came from poor fishing family in somalia, I will point out that Akon went to Senegal to invest. He didnt come from rich family in Senegal.

Funny enough, I agree with you. There are too many fake "woke" people.

No one says that black people have monopoly of racist victimization. Stop trying to play strawmen and deviate from a discussion. Must I talk about Japanese anti-chinese racism whenever I talk about anti-black racism?

I'm not playing strawmen. I just don't understand why we all have to be obsessed with racism when there's many other problems affecting the black race. We're not saying racism doesn't exist or it doesn't affect us. But we also have, to our perspective, more pressing problems and issues to deal with currently.

Furthermore, blacks have suffered racism than any other race, even till today. Just look at how African Americans are treated in their own country. Cops being called on innocent blacks and getting shot.

Part of me feels this has to do with where the black man weighs on the global scale. The US is generally racist to all non-Caucasian races. Why then, is the black man bearing the brunt of most violent race crimes? I honestly feel maybe if one or more African countries had a real say in world matters, this could be curbed. Which brings me back to the importance of first resolving ethnic and tribal issues. How is the world supposed to value the life of the black man if the black man values not his own life? If Africans, with strategic relevance in world matters, denounced the violence against black people all over the world, I think that would make a lot of headway in solving this problem.

And who told you that Killmonger was not going to fight France or Belgium with Wakandas technology? Was it not hinted that his ambitions were global?

Just saying if he was more sympathetic to Africa's problems than his own personal issues, he would have less hate for the US and more the countries I mentioned.

Ogbeni, this is out of point. I could lecture you on why you should also be concerned about racism in the west but that is a conversation for another day.

I am concerned about racism in the West. It's just not at the top of my list of concerns.

I never compared tribalism here with racism abroad. You did that. I never mentioned anything about ignoring problems in Nigeria. You can acknowledge problems in Africa and still be concerned with problems in the West that indirectly affect Africa.

I don't remember comparing tribalism here with racism abroad. I just said we're more concerned with tribalism down here than racism miles away.

Spoken like an African monkey who swallows African history whitewashed by a white man. It is even recorded that the benin artifacts were looted (and therefore not traded)
https://qz.com/africa/1477656/british-museum-to-return-looted-benin-bronze-artifacts/


And just to let you know, there were many africans who resisted selling their brothers. They were killed. Only typical ignorant Nigerians believe that our ancestors just ran to the white man to sell their brothers.

Jaja of Opobo would be rolling in his grave

Coming from a Capuchin like you, that's a compliment.
If you weren't obsessed with your racist perspective, you could have at least noticed that I admitted some were looted. And last I checked, my grandparents couldn't read English so it's unlikely the things they told me were whitewashed by a white man.
Only a typical victim-minded person would ignore the part Africans played in the slave trade. They were already trading in slaves. The white man just paid better.

JeromeBlack:



After Beorn has calmly corrected you, you still come back with this trash? I know that I can be very harsh/abusive sometimes and I felt Beorn's calm manner would get through to you. Sadly, you are block head. If you had a superpower, it would be the sheepish stubborness of a goat. Goatman.



Was any other race enslaved for 700 years? hmmm?

This is too savagery for my health. I'm out.

When you see someone with sense, you will know.

Unlike those will use ladipo spare parts market beer parlour drunken talks to form opinion.

Kaycee7:


Part of me feels this has to do with where the black man weighs on the global scale. The US is generally racist to all non-Caucasian races. Why then, is the black man bearing the brunt of most violent race crimes?

I honestly feel maybe if one or more African countries had a real say in world matters, this could be curbed.

If Africans, with strategic relevance in world matters, denounced the violence against black people all over the world, I think that would make a lot of headway in solving this problem


Only a typical victim-minded person would ignore the part Africans played in the slave trade. They were already trading in slaves. The white man just paid better.

oyetpel:


Was trying to clarify something, sorry for citing you into it.

No, you're not. This is not the first time you tried to stain my reputation, and it won't be the last. You're only sorry cuz it's the first time I called you out on it. If you have a problem with me, tell it to my face and stop slinging slanderous claims against me. I don't like cowards.

Kaycee7:




Part of me feels this has to do with where the black man weighs on the global scale. The US is generally racist to all non-Caucasian races. Why then, is the black man bearing the brunt of most violent race crimes? I honestly feel maybe if one or more African countries had a real say in world matters, this could be curbed. Which brings me back to the importance of first resolving ethnic and tribal issues. How is the world supposed to value the life of the black man if the black man values not his own life? If Africans, with strategic relevance in world matters, denounced the violence against black people all over the world, I think that would make a lot of headway in solving this problem.

Just because of what you said in this quote, I will stop the argument. You have just given the answer to many black problems. That is the unadulterated truth- if African countries got their heads in a correct place and fixed their affairs, we would solve a lot of problems.

It seems that you are more reasonable than one goatman on this thread

I don't like parables.

If you want to call him a coward, say it without fear.


Is he a coward or not?

KoiceReloaded:


No, you're not. This is not the first time you tried to stain my reputation, and it won't be the last. You're only sorry cuz it's the first time I called you out on it. If you have a problem with me, tell it to my face and stop slinging slanderous claims against me. I don't like cowards.

Kaycee7:

Only a typical victim-minded person would ignore the part Africans played in the slave trade. They were already trading in slaves. The white man just paid better.

This is the problem right here. While there were some tribes that engaged in slave trade, many did not.

Why is it that people never mention the fact that there were Jewish people who collaborated with Nazis?

But we hear all the time about blacks who traded slaves with white men.

We never hear of those Africans who resisted slave trade

alexistaiwo:
When you see someone with sense, you will know.

Unlike those will use ladipo spare parts market beer parlour drunken talks to form opinion.

Sharrap, Goatman!

GAYbriel, have some respect!

JeromeBlack:


Sharrap, Goatman!

alexistaiwo:
I don't like parables.
If you want to call him a coward, say it without fear.

Is he a coward or not?

I can't hear you from my penthouse.

Now you are starting to act like a coward?

KoiceReloaded:


I can't hear you from my penthouse.

alexistaiwo:
Now you are starting to act like a coward?

I still can't hear you.

Our designated thread prefect cum madam in the house be presently looking at the thread like this......

Ishilove:

LMAO. If I should complain now some individuals here will come here to throw shades. I don taya. It's like a cyber _dick measuring contest.

I was hoping to get movies to watch this break, but clearly that's not gonna happen

Have you seen True Lies by Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Beorn:

Koice the bigot.

Good, that's how you do it.
You result to ridicule

KoiceReloaded:


No, you're not. This is not the first time you tried to stain my reputation, and it won't be the last. You're only sorry cuz it's the first time I called you out on it. If you have a problem with me, tell it to my face and stop slinging slanderous claims against me. I don't like cowards.

Nothing about slandering anybody i cited your argument with that guy as a perfect example, stop being pained.

pryme:


Have you seen True Lies by Arnold Schwarzenegger?

90s, right?