Ksslib:

Pls & pls I beg you in the name of the old, new & fairly-used gods, let's stop. Let's just stop.

Sansa can never know Cersei more than Tyrion, presently, pastly or futuristically. You guys are beginning to give that girl too much credit and it's annoying.

Sansa's base for concluding that Cersie won't play ball is ONLY based on her PAST HISTORY with Cersie. She knows Cersei is a cold hearted bitch and that's all. Tyrion, however, knows Cersei on a more deeper level. Asides that, he knows that even the devil can have something to live for . Are we also forgetting the fact that he had a private meeting with Cersei we are yet to get a glimpse of?

Since we all want to analyze, oya na.

Sansa's statement to Tyrion was made out of nothing but assumption - which luckily for her dumb @ss, turned out correct. It was a quick, impulsive conclusion. Sansa never made that conclusion from a strategic or logical point of view. It was a sharp sharp conclusion made from nothing but past emotion. Is that how you want to win the war, ehh madam Lady of Winterfell?

So because Cersei is a cold-hearted bittch, is that enough reason to just assume and conclude Cersei will rather just sit back and not send her troops to support a war that will keep her alive? Only an illogical person will just assume that a bad and evil person will always remain evil in every situation. This difference in reasoning is why Tyrion is the Queen's hand while Sansa will soon become the Queen's burnt offering, or even better, the Night King's next Archimedes spiral if she doesn't tone-down this so-called new "smartness" she picked on the ground.

So Sansa now sees the future? She sat down and was like "nah nah, that evil, cold b1tch Cersie will rather remain in King's Landing and fight the white-walkers herself without needing our help even though we have two dragons?".

Once again, clear proof that the show writers are beginning to intervene. If no, then what other reason does Sansa have for believing Cersei will not join them? She should tell us. Afterall, she's the Lady of Winterfell and the fate of the lives of multitudes will boil down in part to her decision making. Sansa should tell us, maybe after that, we'll start giving her the full respect she deserves. Till then, she should swerve and the producers too, should behave.

And again, Tyrion is not God. He's bound to make mistakes just like every normal human being. Even almighty Night King that is not human made a costly mistake that could have effectively won him the War when he miscalculated the physics & flight trajectory of his second arrow that could have brought down drogon + Dany in season 7 when she rode to save Johnny boy & co from the white walkers.

A simple extrapolation of Newton's second law of motion keeping in mind that the flight of an arrow is parabolic, hence his initial throw-velocity V(¢×) will have to account for air drag (¶ ) & acceleration due to gravity (g) , could have won him the war. But I don't see anybody mocking him for that.

In Tyrion's case, however, it was CLEARLY implied that he had a change of heart after that private meeting with Cersie. A meeting we are yet to see. Something tells me an apology from Sansa, ya'll, or the producers is not too far off. Somebody must apologise to Tyrion, period. Let's watch & see.

I apologise for the long epistle though. It's a curse I carry.

And for God's sake, Arya. What was she thinking when she called Sansa the smartest person she's ever met. And you agree? Lmao..

That girl is two more statements away from entering the dumb list. A girl has no name, agreed!! A girl now has no brain?? Wtf!!

As for the producers, I swear in the name of old, new & fairly-used gods, if you fffuck this show up for me I will stop watching Game of thrones immidiately after the last episode...

Guy relax abeg! First and foremost, we all have to pause and let this fact sink in; A Song of Ice and Fire is exclusively George Ray Richard Martin's intellectual property, so he reserves the right to state emphatically what's what and what's not. Every other person's opinion is subject to discussion based on facts let on by the books and the show.

If you've read the books and followed the series you will know that Tyrion wasn't born smart. Read about the circumstances surrounding his first marriage to Tysha and discover how silly and naive he once was. He also went through some character development to become your infallible intellectual giant.

So, I'm not the one giving Sansa credit, the show is. Cersei didn't just fool Tyrion, she fooled everyone at the meeting; Jon, Dany, Sandor, Davos et al. The blame is just more on Tyrion because he is supposed to be the smartest guy around and like you rightly stated, he had a one on one with his sister, came out and convinced everyone-audience inclusive that Cersei was in. Logic or folly, the fact remains that Tyrion's character was served some bull and he swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Sansa's statement was not borne out of assumption it came from a deep knowledge of how Cersei's mind works. Remember she told Arya in S7 that the parchment was Cersie's ploy to divide them and gain the upper hand. She was also right about the workings of Ramsey's mind and was able contribute positively to winning back Winterfell and she equally defeated Baelish at his own game.

Please read your write-up again. You repeatedly made excuses for Tyrion's shortcomings while seizing every opportunity to disparage Sansa.

Yes, we all love Tyrion. He is the 'T' in GOT if you ask me but any unbiased gender-tolerant viewer will agree that Sansa has undergone tremendous mental development.

So please deal with your prejudice for Sansa or the Starks in general and watch the show with an open mind. You can't tell the producers what to do cos we don't control the story.

9jaBloke:


You missed the joke

But on a serious note, if a lady is in control of her man's 'time to

come', then she'll always feel like 'returning his coins.'

Dope!!!

oliidell:



Guy relax abeg! First and foremost, we all have to pause and let this fact sink in; A Song of Ice and Fire is exclusively George Ray Richard Martin's intellectual property, so he reserves the right to state emphatically what's what and what's not. Every other person's opinion is subjected to discussion based on facts let on by the books and the show.

If you've read the books and followed the series you will know that Tyrion wasn't born smart. Read about the circumstances surrounding his first marriage to Tysha and discover how silly and naive he once was. He also went through some character development to become your infallible intellectual giant.

So, I'm not the one giving Sansa credit, the show is. Cersei didn't just fool Tyrion, she fooled everyone at the meeting; Jon, Dany, Sandor, Davos et al. The blame is just more on Tyrion because he is supposed to be the smartest guy around and like you rightly stated, he had a one on one with his sister, came out and convinced everyone-audience inclusive that Cersei was in. Logic or folly, the fact remains that Tyrion's character was served some bull and he swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Sansa's statement was not borne out of assumption it came from a deep knowledge of how Cersei's mind works. Remember she told Arya in S7 that the parchment was Cersie's ploy to divide them and gain the upper hand. She was also right about the workings of Ramsey's mind and was able contribute positively to winning back Winterfell and defeat Baelish at his own game.

Please read your write-up again. You repeatedly made excuses for Tyrion's shortcomings while seizing every opportunity to disparage Sansa.

Yes, we all love Tyrion. He is the 'T' in GOT if you ask me but any unbiased gender-tolerant viewer will agree that Sansa has undergone tremendous mental development.

So please deal with your prejudice for Sansa or the Starks in general and watch the show with an open mind. You can't tell the producers what to do cos we don't control the story.

"But any unbiased gender-tolerant viewer will agree Sansa has undergone tremendous mental development"

As a matter of fact, one of my first season 8 posts here was me alluding that even though I still hold reservations, Sansa has undergone some level of growth.

As for that gender-tolerant part, it automatically deleted the rest of what I wanted to say.

Can't be having a discussion with somebody who thinks like Season 1 Sansa. Have a nice day.

Ksslib:



Can't be having a discussion with somebody who thinks like Season 1 Sansa. Have a nice day.

Thanks, Season 7 Lord Baelish, you too.

Please enough of all this Sansa is stupid, wise bull crap.


What does the Night King want?

To conquer life & summer

oliidell:


& what makes you so certain? It's a good point but if it was part of the plot, the show would have given us a glimpse or a hint in that direction. Guys cut Sansa some slack and accept her character development. We didn't write the story.

I have never brought down her character in this thread. I love her person.
You said the show wud have given us a glimpse or hint concerning that, but lemme draw your attention to the charges levelled against Lord Baelish at the great room.
How come she knew everything that ever happened when she was reeling out those charges to little finger.
Your guess is as good as mine.

oliidell:



Guy relax abeg! First and foremost, we all have to pause and let this fact sink in; A Song of Ice and Fire is exclusively George Ray Richard Martin's intellectual property, so he reserves the right to state emphatically what's what and what's not. Every other person's opinion is subject to discussion based on facts let on by the books and the show.

If you've read the books and followed the series you will know that Tyrion wasn't born smart. Read about the circumstances surrounding his first marriage to Tysha and discover how silly and naive he once was. He also went through some character development to become your infallible intellectual giant.

So, I'm not the one giving Sansa credit, the show is. Cersei didn't just fool Tyrion, she fooled everyone at the meeting; Jon, Dany, Sandor, Davos et al. The blame is just more on Tyrion because he is supposed to be the smartest guy around and like you rightly stated, he had a one on one with his sister, came out and convinced everyone-audience inclusive that Cersei was in. Logic or folly, the fact remains that Tyrion's character was served some bull and he swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Sansa's statement was not borne out of assumption it came from a deep knowledge of how Cersei's mind works. Remember she told Arya in S7 that the parchment was Cersie's ploy to divide them and gain the upper hand. She was also right about the workings of Ramsey's mind and was able contribute positively to winning back Winterfell and she equally defeated Baelish at his own game.

Please read your write-up again. You repeatedly made excuses for Tyrion's shortcomings while seizing every opportunity to disparage Sansa.

Yes, we all love Tyrion. He is the 'T' in GOT if you ask me but any unbiased gender-tolerant viewer will agree that Sansa has undergone tremendous mental development.

So please deal with your prejudice for Sansa or the Starks in general and watch the show with an open mind. You can't tell the producers what to do cos we don't control the story.

Thank you for this

GMan650:
Please enough of all this Sansa is stupid, wise bull crap.


What does the Night King want?

Wait till the next episode. You'll know

Sasquatch:

Ok

Please can you send all the books to ayobami996@gmail.com

9jaBloke:
To conquer life & summer

There's more to it than that!

Good Pm Sir's and Ma's in the house. Please I'll be glad if I can get a download link or a direction to where I'll be able to download the series Games of Thrones with Eng sub. I was using index before but I don't know what happened, I just can't access it. Please house, help your boy.

I stopped at Season 1 episode 5.

Endy10:


Wait till the next episode. You'll know

Can't we analyze that instead of all this Sansa talk?

I don't think any of the perceived 'Sansa-hate' has anything to do with gender (speaking for myself)

I've rooted for Dany from s01 even though she's sliding more and more into her family tradition of megalomania. (sobs)

I rooted for Olenna and Margaery long before they killed that coont called Joffery.

I cheered when Dany formed a 'female coalition' (Olenna Tyrell, Yara Greyjoy, Ellaria Sand) to defeat Cersei.

I think her character development is ok but the showrunners undermining key characters just to elevate hers.

[Good Pm Sir's and Ma's in the house. Please I'll be glad if I can get a download link or a direction to where I'll be able to download the series Games of Thrones with Eng sub. I was using index before but I don't know what happened, I just can't access it. Please house, help your boy.

I stopped at Season 1 episode 5. [/quote]

GMan650:
Please enough of all this Sansa is stupid, wise bull crap.


What does the Night King want?

NK wants to freeze, kill and destroy.

Chaiii una too argue

Maybe tomorrow we'll discuss the opening credits. It totally changed from what it used to be so some clues may be there.

Emphasis were laid on the great Hall of Winterfell and the crypts.

Also the 'plaque' now has a man holding the head of a Wolf. [ I don't have the images...it would've made more sense].

meforkene:


But wait o, it's Ser Jorah you guys are calling Friendzone It's not fair o. Wonder how the guy feels when right under his nose Dario came and collected...now Jon is collecting. Love is wicked.

I feel for the guy though. He had to even look for a Dany-lookalike hore when he was exiled. Poor man.

meforkene:
Maybe tomorrow we'll discuss the opening credits. It totally changed from what it used to be so some clues may be there.

Emphasis were laid on the great Hall of Winterfell and the crypts.

Also the 'plaque' now has a man holding the head of a Wolf. [ I don't have the images...it would've made more sense].

It is discussed in detail here

time.com/5570838/game-of-thrones-opening-credits-changes-meaning/

I hope showing the crypts doesn't mean a brutal end for House Stark.

Ksslib:

Pls & pls I beg you in the name of the old, new & fairly-used gods, let's stop. Let's just stop.

Sansa can never know Cersei more than Tyrion, presently, pastly or futuristically. You guys are beginning to give that girl too much credit and it's annoying.

Sansa's base for concluding that Cersie won't play ball is ONLY based on her PAST HISTORY with Cersie. She knows Cersei is a cold hearted bitch and that's all. Tyrion, however, knows Cersei on a more deeper level. Asides that, he knows that even the devil can have something to live for . Are we also forgetting the fact that he had a private meeting with Cersei we are yet to get a glimpse of?

Since we all want to analyze, oya na.

Sansa's statement to Tyrion was made out of nothing but assumption - which luckily for her dumb @ss, turned out correct. It was a quick, impulsive conclusion. Sansa never made that conclusion from a strategic or logical point of view. It was a sharp sharp conclusion made from nothing but past emotion. Is that how you want to win the war, ehh madam Lady of Winterfell?

So because Cersei is a cold-hearted bittch, is that enough reason to just assume and conclude Cersei will rather just sit back and not send her troops to support a war that will keep her alive? Only an illogical person will just assume that a bad and evil person will always remain evil in every situation. This difference in reasoning is why Tyrion is the Queen's hand while Sansa will soon become the Queen's burnt offering, or even better, the Night King's next Archimedes spiral if she doesn't tone-down this so-called new "smartness" she picked on the ground.

So Sansa now sees the future? She sat down and was like "nah nah, that evil, cold b1tch Cersie will rather remain in King's Landing and fight the white-walkers herself without needing our help even though we have two dragons?".

Once again, clear proof that the show writers are beginning to intervene. If no, then what other reason does Sansa have for believing Cersei will not join them? She should tell us. Afterall, she's the Lady of Winterfell and the fate of the lives of multitudes will boil down in part to her decision making. Sansa should tell us, maybe after that, we'll start giving her the full respect she deserves. Till then, she should swerve and the producers too, should behave.

And again, Tyrion is not God. He's bound to make mistakes just like every normal human being. Even almighty Night King that is not human made a costly mistake that could have effectively won him the War when he miscalculated the physics & flight trajectory of his second arrow that could have brought down drogon + Dany in season 7 when she rode to save Johnny boy & co from the white walkers.

A simple extrapolation of Newton's second law of motion keeping in mind that the flight of an arrow is parabolic, hence his initial throw-velocity V(¢×) will have to account for air drag (¶ ) & acceleration due to gravity (g) , could have won him the war. But I don't see anybody mocking him for that.

In Tyrion's case, however, it was CLEARLY implied that he had a change of heart after that private meeting with Cersie. A meeting we are yet to see. Something tells me an apology from Sansa, ya'll, or the producers is not too far off. Somebody must apologise to Tyrion, period. Let's watch & see.

I apologise for the long epistle though. It's a curse I carry.

And for God's sake, Arya. What was she thinking when she called Sansa the smartest person she's ever met. And you agree? Lmao..

That girl is two more statements away from entering the dumb list. A girl has no name, agreed!! A girl now has no brain?? Wtf!!

As for the producers, I swear in the name of old, new & fairly-used gods, if you fffuck this show up for me I will stop watching Game of thrones immidiately after the last episode...

Oh my world!! which one is fairly uses gods again and did you just say you will stop watching after the last episode

Arya making that statement to me is more like she is pleading with Jon to have a lil faith in Sansa and hear her out sometimes. She doesn't mean it deep down

iamharkinwaley:



I just did Sir, I think is for movies not series.

No sir... Search game of thrones... That app is an encyclopedia of movies, series, shows etc.

I'm currently rewatching Nikita on the app

LeSulk:


NK wants to freeze, kill and destroy.

If that's all, why then did they not freeze Sam at the Fist of the first men.

Also, the bro of the nights watch in the beginning of Season 1 Episode 1(Cared) was also spared.

melodyogonna:

night walkers?

I guess. The walkers are the dangerous ones. The wights will be burnt to Ash.

GMan650:


If that's all, why then did they not freeze Sam at the Fist of the first men.

Also, the bro of the nights watch in the beginning of Season 1 Episode 1(Cared) was also spared.

I'm guessing they were spared to spread the word i.e FEAR. That topic been well debated by fans.

CecyAdrian:


Oh my world!! which one is fairly uses gods again and did you just say you will stop watching after the last episode

Arya making that statement to me is more like she is pleading with Jon to have a lil faith in Sansa and hear her out sometimes. She doesn't mean it deep down

Sure she doesn't? because the Arya I saw in season 8 episode 1 will kill Jon - if it comes to that - to defend her family, Sansa.

LeSulk:


I'm guessing they were spared to spread the word i.e FEAR. That topic been well debated by fans.

I don't think the night walkers kill people that does not seem a threat to them, especially if you are unarmed and afraid.
The night walkers I said, not the wights

Ksslib:


"But any unbiased gender-tolerant viewer will agree Sansa has undergone tremendous mental development"

As a matter of fact, one of my first season 8 posts here was me alluding that even though I still hold reservations, Sansa has undergone some level of growth.

As for that gender-tolerant part, it automatically deleted the rest of what I wanted to say.

Can't be having a discussion with somebody who thinks like Season 1 Sansa. Have a nice day.

If you have read the books then you would know that little finger trained her, taught her how to think, talk and react to events so she won't be as hopeless as her father in the game of thrones. One or two of the lessons happened in the show, the most notable being the one that got little finger killed.

Arya to John: "I'm defending our family, so is she(Sansa)"

Jon: "I'm her family too " .. **( the brief pause, the look on Jon's face before he said this was sad.. like really really sad it touched me)

Arya: "Don't forget that"

*Earlier on*

Dany to Johnny boy: " She doesn't need to be my friend, but I'm her queen, if she can't respect me...... " *dothrakis interrupt before she completes statement**

I just hope the producers are not smoking the same weed I'm smoking, ELSE ........

Arya is forced to defend her family(Sansa) from Dany. Johnny boy is forced to defend his NEW family too. Arya somehow kills Dany. Johnny boy - as painful as it was - kills Arya in the process too. Sansa kills Jon in the process too. War is over. All hail the new queen Sansa.

*Two days later after the final episode*

The whole world turns upside down, chaos everywhere. Riots in the streets. Donald Trump resigns. There's a national manhunt for the producers of game of thrones. They seek asylum in Venezuela.

*Two years later, the world is still yet to recover*

But there's good news. Scientists at Stanford have catalysed a serum called Life-bringer that wipes certain parts of the memory. Military helicopters deliver life-bringer to every major city in the world.

Finally the pain is over. The world is now back to normal. People now smile & laugh like they used to. The sun comes up for the first time in 23 months. Plants begin to show sign of life.

David Benioff & D. Weiss start writing the script for another fresh season 8 from their prison cells under the close supervision of the CIA.