ednut1:
Why not focus on how u go enter heaven na. And live matter . People are doing it and u cant stop them

Reference:
As long as God can raise up stones, shows that he does not partake in the discrimination and ridiculous laws and sentiments of men. God is in a real hurry to save mankind. I seriously doubt if He will be picky as to who does His Works.

QuickStandard:
I have no time now to into details, cos am on my way to church.

But if you take a deeper look, from the scripture you quoted, you will see that Paul only expressed his own human views

Dokitadotun:
There are positions that Apostle Paul took because of Jewish religion. A close example was when he had Timothy, a greek christian, circumscised for acceptance among the Jews even though he himself said that circumscision avails nothing before God. Judaism forbids woman from ministering in the sanctuary hence many early Christians find it hard to accept a woman ministering in the sanctuary. In fact Paul himself wrote that Man and woman are equal. However, because of peace he said woman should not minister. Remember we minister to God in the spirit and not the flesh. God is a spirit and we relate with him with our spirit and in the spirit there is no male nor female.

Kdon2:


Ministering in spirit is different from ministering to congregation abeg? Don't get it twisted

Richy4:
But Deborah was a woman... She was one of the judges in Israel...They should have said haba!! Madam u are a woman, u should be quite..

Women where the first that proclaimed the resurrection of Jesus while their male counterparts were sleeping or hiding...
That temple veil that slits in half when Jesus gave up the ghost got lots significance...including what we are talking about on this thread...

midolian:
I think we should stop trying hard to justify what is not...

It is clearly stated in Corinthians that it is a shame for women to speak in church. Whatever questions they have to ask, they should ask their husbands at home...but these days, their husbands will even be seated in church listening to their bitter sermons and nodding their heads to show they are proud of their wives. If Daddy freeze start now, Una go say he is anti-christ..

If the man on the pulpit sees a verse that does not go down well with him, he reads the entire Bible in search of what looks like a counter verse to justify his disobedience of the word of "God"..or go outside the testament if need be. When it comes to matters of tithes, they wee say "Old testament or New testament, all na testament"

Truth is, the verses of the Bible are selectively followed.

Note; I am not an atheist. Just a blunt and logical believer

danhiels:
I think this is the opinion of Paul and the time he lived in(traditionally women where deemed inferior by men at that time) see I believe the bible was inspired by God but it was not written by God so men wrote what they believe in their time just like some of our pastors say what they believe now (doesn't mean the apostles intend to deceive don't. know about pastors of now) my point:Deborah became a judge over all the tribes of Israel given anointing and authority by God we would he change over time and say women are not allowed to lead or rule or preach in the church or anywhere else ...God does not change nor lie for he OS not a man that he should be sorry

Dokitadotun:

First and foremost bro, you are ministering to God!! Not to people. It is the Holy spirit that touches peoples heart and not you the minister, more so it is not a social gathering but spiritual

Kdon2:


My brother, no where in Israel can a woman lead a congregation it's a sacriledge. The Bible says so. Stop rearranging God's order!

kareemkamil:


See you, those Muslims you are seen, are the true believers.

midolian:
I think we should stop trying hard to justify what is not...

It is clearly stated in Corinthians that it is a shame for women to speak in church. Whatever questions they have to ask, they should ask their husbands at home...but these days, their husbands will even be seated in church listening to their bitter sermons and nodding their heads to show they are proud of their wives. If Daddy freeze start now, Una go say he is anti-christ..

If the man on the pulpit sees a verse that does not go down well with him, he reads the entire Bible in search of what looks like a counter verse to justify his disobedience of the word of "God"..or go outside the testament if need be. When it comes to matters of tithes, they wee say "Old testament or New testament, all na testament"

Truth is, the verses of the Bible are selectively followed.

Note; I am not an atheist. Just a blunt and logical believer

Akuruoulo:
was there aircraft ? will the Asians and Africans travel to Europe by foot ? use ur head

midolian:

Go and read your Bible and stop making a f00l of yourself..

Bible fall on you!

Satan66:

I lie?
Mentioned a passage where a black man was mentioned
We blacks have being slaves since the beginning.

CandidSeeker:
Judges 4:4-5 KJV
And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Beth-el in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.


Galatians 3:27-28 KJV
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

-Peace.

simple as it can be

Satan66:

Exactly because blacks were being enslaved
You worship and praise a man that did nothing to save your ancestors.
You believe he died for your sins while your ancestors were being used servants and human toys.
Funny
All of Jesus disciples were white, no black, no Asian.

Satan66:

I lie?
Mentioned a passage where a black man was mentioned
We blacks have being slaves since the beginning.

Greatzeus:
Most of us still don't understand what great sacrifice Jesus made on our behalf,and what he achieved,when we do,we will then truly be as gods.
In Christianity,there is no tribe,no race,no gender discrimination before God. Jesus didn't pay more price for males than females and vice versa. A woman can old any position in church just as men do,as long as she is qualified.

Kdon2:


Se na copycat quran be religious book? All na history of Israelites (jews) not even Arab has 10% there!

Dokitadotun:

First and foremost bro, you are ministering to God!! Not to people. It is the Holy spirit that touches peoples heart and not you the minister, more so it is not a social gathering but spiritual

HitSong:

Lol
This one doesn't even know how the Jews detests Christians. I just laugh when the ignorant fools here celebrate Isreal. Christians population in Israel is not even up to 5%.
Till today, the Jews don't give a fùck about your Jesus. They still think that he's a liar and a hypocrite.

Richy4:


You don't know your bible man... Go to the book of judges... and look it up...

I wish you understand English properly... U will see that 1 Tim 2 vs 12, Paul was making use of " I" I DO NOT PERMIT IT..". meaning that it was Paul himself that was saying he will not premit women to speak... not the holyspirit.. or something. . Just simple english language... u should learn to read your bible and distinguish when a character in it was speaking in his own accord and when he was lead by the spirit... I am guessing that it's not every thing the pastor says that u believed right? So also Paul is human like u....

HeyCorleone:



So by your analysis of "writing what they believe in their time", should we then allow the practice of homosexuality, because, you know, the writers condemning it in the Bible were writing what they believed in their time, when homosexuality was unthinkable?

kareemkamil:


See you, those Muslims you are seen, are the true believers.

Kdon2:


That's your problem. Do jews care about Islam either.? No. Israel is the origin of Christianity. Deal with it.