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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 11:21am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:Games are determined by how w teams plays. ..u knw how many goals Chelsea scored vs d big games.This is to show Chelsea mediocrity was in play wen they went shoulder 2 shoulder vs oda top guns. All goals are important. .noting like a goal is less important dan d oda.... Effectiveness of a player is the total contribution of d said player in any match..this mini reward is shown by the MOM. So how come lacazette n Salah won less MOM wen thier goals were d most important. Liverpool despite thier scintillating form vs Chelsea Salah's goals=1 Hazard goals=2 Oh!!! I remember salah's goals was a shot outside the box and it is termed more important goal. ..judge urself |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 11:24am On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: if you score 200 goals in one match, you do not get more than 3 points. If you score 500 goals in 10 matches, and lose the remaining 28 by 1-0 scoreline, FA will not look at your goal difference abd put you into top 4. If you win all your league matches by a 1-0 Scoreline, you would have won the league with only 38 goals. Burnley and Southampton are currently engaged in a relegation battle despite having scored 44 and 41 goals respectively This tells you that the quantity of goals is of minimal importance. The most important goal is the one that secures a win, every other goal after that is jara. So for impact, I'm looking for the player who is guaranteeing his team the 3 points with his efforts, not then player that is merely improving his own stats. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 11:28am On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: man of the match is an opinion not a fact. Anybody can give man of the match, infact for every game each media platform give their own man of the match and they often pick different players despite watching the same match. Nah fam. That ain't it for me. I don't argue opinions, I argue facts. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 11:30am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:...if I created a 100 goal scoring chances nd my attacker scorescore 80.nd u were able no score 25 creating 20 goals scoring opportunities. ... Who would win d tournaments assuming both clubs went head 2 head. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:33am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: This guy, this statement is funny sha. I cussed Hazard cus I expected him to do more in our last game, that doesn't mean overall he wasn't better than Salah this season. Do you know how many times I cursed Salah this season, there are so many Pool games he was totally useless this season. I wasn't the only one, people cursed him a lot at the viewing centre I go to, most of them are Liverpool fans. Hazard did more for Chelsea than Salah did for Liverpool, I'm sure if they were to swap teams, teammates and Coach this season, Hazard will be heads above heels better than him, by a very far distance. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:34am On Apr 26, 2019 |
Honestly,I can relate with whatever nollywood actor hanksanuku is saying but my problem here is that soccer cankerworm we have on this thread who is not here to come and disagree and call everything poppycock cus I remembered making this same point in defence of Didier Drogba when egbon dayo ridiculed the striker's league goals.Telling him those low amount of goals Drogba's scored had more significant contributions to our league triumph . |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 11:36am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:Man of the match to a large extent points our the most valuable and hardest worker in a match.... All goals are important. ..nothing like 1 goal is more important than d next 1.....or wch will u call d most important goal bw tom hearton nd Barnes goal wen burnley visited Chelsea? ? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:39am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:At this point of the season where goal difference might possibly decide who makes it to the UCL or not, every goal is of importance. Talking about the stats, it's only now that I'm seeing folks look deeper than what the stats suggest all because Hazard is involved, when Dayo and his minions were brandishing stats (goals + assist) last season, nobody asked to know how many of those goals actually won points. I assure you next season, the table will turn and you'll see guys turn this argument on its head. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 11:42am On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: This is actually a very stùpid question France Wales and Belgium were the highest scoring teams in Euro 2016 if I recall correctly, but Portugal won the tournament without even scoring a single goal in regulation time during the knockout stages...and This was after qualifying as best loser. When we won the league in 14/15, Man City scored 10 more goals than us. When we won the league in 04/5, Arsenal scored 15 more goals than us. When Manyoo won the league in 08/09 they scored 68 and conceded 24. Chelsea also scored exactly 68 goals and conceded 24. But they finished 1st with 90 points, and we finished 3rd with 83. Same goals scored, same goals conceded, same goal difference, but 7 points difference on the log. Not all goals matter equally. Some goals are more equal than others ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 11:48am On Apr 26, 2019 |
patrickmuf: nobody says goals and assists are not important. But when Hazard and Salah have very similar output this season, what do you use to differentiate them? The only difference between them is 3 goal involvements. Salah is playing Huddersfield tonight and could easily cover that. That's 3 goal involvement gap is not enough to say Hazrd is better I'm trying to make a more discerning judgement but making a qualitative comparison of both players who have similar stats. Key phrase - Similar stats. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 11:56am On Apr 26, 2019 |
popizaino:Liverpool vs big guns this season 1 goal vs Chelsea Penalty goals vs arsenal Drogba was more dan this ...let's not talk abt Drogba's influence in the defence department |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:04pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: The emphasis is on when they go head 2 head.. Points are actually accumulated by goals scored irrespective of who scored it......influencing a game could be d person doing d dirty jobs 4 an easy tap in..the more reason "influencing a game" is hinged on an individual output through assists ..chances created nd goals... Debruyne was city's most influential person last season not cos of d num of goals scored...or rather the match winning goals (ur term)... U haven't told me d most important goals bw Heaton nd barnes's when burnley visited Chelsea |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:06pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Wait till that one with obsessive hazard disorder tells you something else. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:08pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:09pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: But Salah is miles ahead abi, using this same stats U do know that, Hazard delivered better than Mane? What do you have to say, is Hazard on 29 goals + assists better than Mane on 20 goals + assists? individually Airmark, Hensben, make una kon see my Uncle's reply. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 12:11pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Points are not accumulated by goals scored. Points are accumulated by not losing and you don't even have to score to not lose If you draw 0-0 you get a point. if you lose 501-500, you get no points. If Hazard scores the whole 500 goals in that game, and Salah only scored the 501st goal, he was the one that delivered the points for his team...not hazard. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 12:14pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: U guys are just making assists look irrelevant just because hazard is topping d assist charts... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 12:15pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
thorrvik55: That's what you took away from that post? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 12:19pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Salah is on 7 assists |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:19pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:And if hazard score 500 goals and gave 200more assists nd sallah scored 510 goals with 50 assists ![]() Don't u see how u are disparaging the strength of assist just because hazard in involve in d highest assists? ?? Mind u d EPL hasn't been won yet by any this season ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:20pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku what do you mean I can't play Pro football because of my pot belly? See Higuain and Gary Taylor-Fletcher ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 12:21pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: U said d difference between d two is 3 goals involvement only without mentioning assists... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 12:28pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Even ur source of truth (world football) says salah has 7 assists so I wonder where u conjured those 3 extra assists from... 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibukzy: 12:33pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:44pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Ibukzy: Same tin here. 1 is a midfielder nd d other an attacker
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 12:46pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
thorrvik55:GOAL INVOLVEMENTS obviously that includes assists |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 12:50pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: The current gap is 3 goal involvements, not 150. Calm down if you don't understand how to use hyperbole. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:54pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku Abeg share your opinion on that akpola make you leave this people and hazard abeg. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:56pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:...u brought in an hyperbolic statement nd still fighting it wen such hyperbole is used 2 flaw ur sentiment? ![]() No go worse pass raumdeuter ooo My bros ![]() ![]() Our argument is abt now...who has been better so far bw hazard vs Salah. ...the argument is present not b4 d end of season or abt sallah reducing nd surpassing him stat wise after Huddersfield match. ...it is about now |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 1:00pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: OK. I saw how u stylishly dodged this Segedinho: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 1:07pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
chelsea fans wondering if raumdeuter as taken over hanksanuku moniker ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 1:07pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: If you dont understand hyperbole rest. I made a statement saying a team can: A, earn a point without scoring in a 0-0 draw, B, win 1-0 and take 3 points, or, C, lose 500 -501 and leave with no points in support of my assertion that quality rather than quantity of goals is what we should be looking at. You came and started talking about Hazard 200 assists and Salah 50 - is this the case? Is the gap anywhere close to that? How does this relate? It's like i might have to avoid using any figure of speech because that might be too difficult for you to understand. |
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