Segedinho:
...u brought in an hyperbolic statement nd still fighting it wen such hyperbole is used 2 flaw ur sentiment? ..
No go worse pass raumdeuter ooo
My bros



Our argument is abt now...who has been better so far bw hazard vs Salah. ...the argument is present not b4 d end of season or abt sallah reducing nd surpassing him stat wise after Huddersfield match. ...it is about now

If it was salah dat had 29 goal involvements and hazard had 26, there would be no need 4 back and forth argument since salah has more, but since d tables are turned they have changed it to hazard has only 3 GOAL INVOLVEMENTS more...

Make una continue sha, tuale...

thorrvik55:


OK.

I saw how u stylishly dodged this

I did not stylishly dodge anything. Ask the man if he didn't go back to edit his post.

And now that i've read it, the question is not even a trick question, it's willfully obtuse. We're discussing match winning actions, and someone is talking to me about a 2-2 draw.

Oya let me ask you, who won that match? Thunder fire you if 'u stylishly dodge this'

thorrvik55:


If it was salah dat had 29 goal involvements and hazard had 26, there would be no need 4 back and forth argument since salah has more, but since d tables are turned they have changed it to hazard has only 3 GOAL INVOLVEMENTS more...

Make una continue sha, tuale...

I'm just going to put this here in case you didn't read it earlier

HanksAnuku:


Hazard stat pads. Score 2 goals in a 5-0 demolition of huddersfield, and then stay silent when City pump us 6 kondo.


In all the games we've lost this season, Hazard did not contribute a goal or assist. SO you cant even say oh he tried, but defence let him down.

Individually Hazard has been brilliant, but have his goals and assists helped us, the same way Salah's output has helped Pool? I think the answer is no.

HanksAnuku:


I did not stylishly dodge anything. Ask the man if he didn't go back to edit his post.

And now that i've read it, the question is not even a trick question, it's willfully obtuse. We're discussing match winning actions, and someone is talking to me about a 2-2 draw.

Oya let me ask you, who won that match? Thunder fire you if 'u stylishly dodge this'

Edited fire...I only added some comments 2 it..
U were of the opinion that goals are different. .some are important and others are opposite so I brought in that question to show ur flaws...I was nd still waiting 4 d answer

HanksAnuku:


I'm just going to put this here in case you didn't read it earlier

where do u think Chelsea would have been had hazard not scored and assisted this much.His assist drew burnley. .his goal drew wolves. .his influence could earn us d top 4...
So wat are u talking about

HanksAnuku:


I did not stylishly dodge anything. Ask the man if he didn't go back to edit his post.

And now that i've read it, the question is not even a trick question, it's willfully obtuse. We're discussing match winning actions, and someone is talking to me about a 2-2 draw.

Oya let me ask you, who won that match? Thunder fire you if 'u stylishly dodge this'

So if the match was won 3-2, the most important goal would have been the 3rd goal and the other two goals dat made d scores level would be less important, right?

Goodness Me,people are just brandishing terms anyhow.
in clear terms, so if my team wins a match 2-1, and i scored the 2nd goal ,i scored the "match winning goal".now what would you term the equaliser or the 1st goal??."match saving goal?"?.
which is the most important goal "match winning" or "match saving".
N.B; Without the "match saving" goal(s) there would be no "match winning" goal,except in a 1-0 victory.

HanksAnuku:


I'm just going to put this here in case you didn't read it earlier

since hazard stat pads,would you be kind enough to provide the teams salah scored majority of his goals against last season??.Let's Us Check If He Did Not STATPAD.

simonjassy:
Goodness Me,people are just brandishing terms anyhow.
in clear terms, so if my team wins a match 2-1, and i scored the 2nd goal ,i scored the "match winning goal".now what would you term the equaliser or the 1st goal??."match saving goal?"?.
which is the most important goal "match winning" or "match saving".
N.B; Without the "match saving" goal(s) there would be no "match winning" goal,except in a 1-0 victory.

even in d 1 vs 0 goals. ..the "assister" could the person that sliced through several defenders only to release a tap in....so the match winning goal is nothing but a fluke.

Segedinho:
where do u think Chelsea would have been had hazard not scored and assisted this much.His assist drew burnley. .his goal drew wolves. .his influency could earn us d top 4...
So wat are u talking about

His assist did not draw Burnley bros.

Kante's goal did.

This is why i don't alway like bring assists into discussions like this, because it fails to take into account one simple fact. As soon as that ball left Hazard's leg, he had nothing to do with the outcome. It was up to Kante vs Heaton to sort out.

If we're influential players, we have to talk first and foremost about which actions Hazard personally did in that game.

See feedback from that Burnley game

Chelseafan1:


Not only defence jare, all of them were stupid, Hazard o, attack o, midfield, defence, Coach, asst, coach, owner, board, all of them are useless. I only pity those fans paying to watch our matches live.

We wey dey watch on TV sef, we are frustrated.

Grundig:
Guys, let's be honest, Hazard should do better.

For a world class player with so much talent, that guy is not consistent.

I hope he takes sarri along with him when he leaves for Madrid.

Ibime:


We have no single corner taker. Hazard cannot even cross road, I don't know why he's taking setpieces.

rationalmind:
But why does Hazard take corner kicks? He hardly beats the first man. When he does, he never finds his team mate

Greatihex:
Hazard is a complete fool. this nigga was busy playing rubbish yesternight, walking on the pitch with the ball. slowing down our attack with so much confidence, doing one thing again and again even after seeing that it is not working. what kind of nonsense is that?


for 90mins, this nigga never cut in to the right to take a shot. always hugging the touchline. i was so pissed with the fool yesternight.


what i don't know is between hazard, the club and sarri who is more foolish.

Greatihex:
no. you can't tell me that someone who could not cut in to the right to take a shot for 90 min had a good game. someone who continued to hug the touchline , walking with the ball, delivering weak setpieces had a good game. the only reasonable thing he did yesterday was that assist to kante.

Elnino4ladies:
Hazard is very poor in taking set pieces.... He wasted all our 8 corners SMH

Segedinho:
even in d 1 vs 0 goals. ..the "assister" could the person that sliced through several defenders only to release a tap in....so the match winning goal is nothing but a fluke.

Shebi, Now Hazard Stat Pads,who are those salah scored majority of his goals last season?
the double standard on this thread is mind boggling.

simonjassy:
Goodness Me,people are just brandishing terms anyhow.
in clear terms, so if my team wins a match 2-1, and i scored the 2nd goal ,i scored the "match winning goal".now what would you term the equaliser or the 1st goal??."match saving goal?"?.
which is the most important goal "match winning" or "match saving".
N.B; Without the "match saving" goal(s) there would be no "match winning" goal,except in a 1-0 victory.

The second goal you scored is the difference between a point and 3 points.

I would have thought that was simple common sense.

People showing their stupidity in broad day light while trying to berate Hazard in a useless team.

When some were faced with facts and benchmarks they've used in times past when it didn't favour Hazard, they've suddenly disaapared like Coogar of blessed memory

There's a reason none of our attackers except him got nominated.

Those who nominated him aren't stupid.

Swap Hazard and Salah this season, let's see how far Salah's goals will take Chelsea.

simonjassy:

since hazard stat pads,would you be kind enough to provide the teams salah scored majority of his goals against last season??.Let's Us Check If He Did Not STATPAD.

I'm not arguing about quality of opponents now. How many match winnig goals does hazard have.

Chelseafan1:


People showing their stupidity in broad day light while trying to berate Hazard in a useless team.

When some were faced with facts and benchmarks they've used in times past when it didn't favour Hazard, they've suddenly disaapared like Coogar of blessed memory

There's a reason none of our attackers except him got nominated.

Those who nominated him aren't stupid.

Swap Hazard and Salah this season, let's see how far Salah's goals will take Chelsea.

I can guarantee that we'll do better with Salah than with Hazard.

We'll definitely score more

Segedinho:

Edited fire...I only added some comments 2 it..
U were of the opinion that goals are different. .some are important and others are opposite so I brought in that question to show ur flaws...I was nd still waiting 4 d answer

Bros I gave you 2008/2009 season.

Manyoo chelsea same number of goals scored, same number conceded, yet 7 points difference.

Explain.

HanksAnuku:


His assist did not draw Burnley bros.

Kante's goal did.

This is why i don't alway like bring assists into discussions like this, because it fails to take into account one simple fact. As soon as that ball left Hazard's leg, he had nothing to do with the outcome. It was up to Kante vs Heaton to sort out.

If we're influential players, we have to talk first and foremost about which actions Hazard personally did in that game.

See feedback from that Burnley game

Would kante's goal have been possible without hazard's assist.

U are trying to belittle assists because it does not suit ur narrative, the season Chelsea won d league with mourinho and Costa scored 20 goals, most of those his goals would not be possible if Fabregas had not assisted him...

thorrvik55:


So if the match was won 3-2, the most important goal would have been the 3rd goal and the other two goals dat made d scores level would be less important, right?

Was the match won 3-2?

If that match was won 3-2 with Hazard scoring the winning goal, will chelseafan1 be calling Hazard stupid?

Simple question - who won that burnley match sir?

thorrvik55:


Would kante's goal have been possible without hazard's assist.

U are trying to belittle assists because it does not suit ur narrative, the season Chelsea won d league with mourinho and Costa scored 20 goals, most of those his goals would not be possible if Fabregas had not assisted him...

So kante needs Hazard to pass to him before he scores?

Or Kante could not have missed the goal.

The point was simple, but you're either incapable or unwilling to see it. Did Hazard possess Kante's mind and shoot with Kante's leg? So how can you say his assist delivered a draw?

Nah nigga Kante was the one who had to beat the keeper with a shot. Kante was the one who delivered the draw. Not Hazard.

Assists are important, but you need the guy on the other end to convert. You also need the keeper to miss. So basically, the assister is relying on two people to do somethng, so he can get some credit.

I've been talking about the niggas who scored match winning goals. Not the ones who passed and hoped it was not Morata on the other end of the pass.

There's a difference

HanksAnuku:


I can guarantee that we'll do better with Salah than with Hazard.

We'll definitely score more

Lemme laugh very hard cos deep down, u know this is almost impossible.

How many of Salah's matches did you watch this season sef, be honest?

I bet its not up to 10? Did u know how much people cursed him this season for wasting chances, losing balls, killing attacks?

Let's even agree Salah will score more than Hazard has scored with FBS, Odoi, Pedro, Fat Higuain as his fellow attackers, u expect him to also defend playing with Our useless Kepa, Alonso, Jorginho, Christensen and Luiz compared to the Liverpool defence.

I just laugh.

HanksAnuku:


His assist did not draw Burnley bros.

Kante's goal did.

This is why i don't alway like bring assists into discussions like this, because it fails to take into account one simple fact. As soon as that ball left Hazard's leg, he had nothing to do with the outcome. It was up to Kante vs Heaton to sort out.

If we're influential players, we have to talk first and foremost about which actions Hazard personally did in that game.

See feedback from that Burnley game

so wat u are saying now is assists are insignificant right.

So influencing a game is all about the goals and nothing more.?

So aguero is the most influential person in city

Aubameyang is the most influential person in arsenal

Paraventure u were talking abt d match winning
goals. ..does that mean that lacazette has bin more important in arsenal than aguero in city thus making him a better player..if ur answer is "NO" then judge urself. .

Mind u ..our argument is bw hazard vs Salah who is a better player this season...no 4get.

Chelseafan1:


Lemme laugh very hard cos deep down, u know this is almost impossible.

How many of Salah's matches did you watch this season sef, be honest?

I bet its not up to 10? Did u know how much people cursed him this season for wasting chances, losing balls, killing attacks?

Let's even agree Salah will score more than Hazard has scored with FBS, Odoi, Pedro, Fat Higuain as his fellow attackers, u expect him to also defend playing with Our useless Kepa, Alonso, Jorginho, Christensen and Luiz compared to the Liverpool defence.

I just laugh.

Go and look at the playing stats.

Hazard and Salah do not play in remotely the same way.

Salah is less reliant on try to create chances for fools like higuain, because he's busy making runs into space to recieve the ball and shoot

HanksAnuku:


I can guarantee that we'll do better with Salah than with Hazard.

We'll definitely score more

This statement still makes me laugh, I honestly wish you can prove how this will be possible? Like Salah wasn't useless when he was with us.

I really don't wanna keep making excuses for Hazard but i wish he has been in a team where things actually work with an attacking minded manager like Klopp, Zidane, Pep and obviously coaches who have a very huge spending power.

I'm sure we won't be having this discussion.

How many managers, attackers, Strikers have we changed in the last 10 years. Hazard has helped deliver the league for Chelsea more than once, we're still waiting on Salah to deliver one.

Segedinho:
so wat u are saying now is assists are insignificant right.

So influencing a game is all about the goals and nothing more.?

I did not say this.

I'm tired of you diving off on tangents fam.

HanksAnuku:


Was the match won 3-2?

If that match was won 3-2 with Hazard scoring the winning goal, will chelseafan1 be calling Hazard stupid?

Simple question - who won that burnley match sir?

I meant if Burnley had won d match 3-2, the 3rd goal would be more important, right? Even though we both know dat without an equalising goal, there would be no winning goal in dat match...

HanksAnuku:


Bros I gave you 2008/2009 season.

Manyoo chelsea same number of goals scored, same number conceded, yet 7 points difference.

Explain.

This is club vs club not a single player vs another
Lacazette according 2 u have the most winning goals but are they competing 4 d league..this shows how useless it is 2 justify influence

Go back and check who scored d most winning
goals..come back and tell us how d winning goals in 32 matches was used in winning d league

thorrvik55:


I meant if Burnley had won d match 3-2, the 3rd goal would be more important, right? Even though we both know dat without an equalising goal, there would be no winning goal in dat match...

This is not the question I asked you.

Who won the match between Burnley and Chelsea?

HanksAnuku:


Go and look at the playing stats.

Hazard and Salah do not play in remotely the same way.

Salah is less reliant on try to create chances for fools like higuain, because he's busy making runs into space to recieve the ball and shoot

That's because he has loads of sensible creative attackers and midfileders around him.

You'll find Hazard, most of the time in the midfield, trying to get the ball and working out something from deep, none of our players can even keep the ball on the feet for 15/10 secs like Hazard would .

I challenge you, get like 5 to 10 different matches of Liverpool and Chelsea matches this season, let your focus be on these two players, you'll discover that, Hazard is made to work way more than Salah does.

HanksAnuku:


I did not say this.

I'm tired of you diving off on tangents fam.

i agree u never said such. .wat was the meaning of Hazard's assist neva drew d burnley match..
Do u knw he could just play the ball 2 d opponent or better still kick 2 bar anyhow? ??why do u think assists are counted?

HanksAnuku:


The second goal you scored is the difference between a point and 3 points.

I would have thought that was simple common sense.

if there wasn't a first goal there would be no 2nd goal.I thought this was common sense

Segedinho:

This is club vs club not a single player vs another

You lack computational ability.

I've been telling you since morning that i'm looking at how Salah and Hazard have directly impacted their clubs ffs. Abi Do players score points?

When I said spoke about match winning goals securing points for a club, what the fvck did you think I was talking about?

You've been there chatting nonsense about how all goals are equally important.

Oya explain 2008/2009 season na?

Same goal difference, same goals scored, same goals conceded, but 7 points difference - That should tell you that some goals are just more important than others. I mean it's basic common sense!

HanksAnuku:


I'm not arguing about quality of opponents now. How many match winnig goals does hazard have.

na me you dey ask?