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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:35pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:okayyy. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:36pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Oga u are just confused. Now there is jara goal...so d 1st goal nao is the most important goal not d goal after a 1 vs 1 draw ![]() Confused people just 2 many here 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 3:40pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Remove his penalty goals and calculate it, shebi na u dey disect goals scored. Then compare 13 assists with just 2 assists. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 3:41pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Guy just shut up. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:48pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Just learnt something from u now ...#thanks On the other hand what is the significance of these goals in the chase of the most important player in a game? ??or how does it depict a player influencing a game. Using ur definition of match winning goals. .... Hazard's match winning goals is exactly 9.... 1st goal or 1 goal winning matches were he scored d last... ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 3:57pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
popizaino:Lol, I was about going this lane also b4 I saw yours. I could not believe they discredited all those drogba's goal saying he wasn't so good but overhyped and they brought his total goal of 9 seasons. Now those "important goals" is now very important in justifying salah over hazard this season. Lol 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:57pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: To apari Raumdeuter liverpool site is not reliable. It's on nairaland you read stupid things from stupid people. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 3:58pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Yes. If the equalising goal leads to a winning goal. Oya answer my own. Can you score a winning goal without scoring an equalising goal? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 3:59pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Oya, show us that of Mane and Hazard and let's see who's the better player. Remember, all season you've insulted Hazard but Salah who has just one goal difference better than Hazard is the next big thing according to you. Can u see how foolish you truly are in broad day light. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 3:59pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: The other goals are not insignificant, but we need to apply context in every discussion. Ronaldo was scoring 40, 50 goals in Madrid without winning a spoon. It doesn't mean that Aguero with 20 goals is better than him because he won EPL etc. The volume in output is still too great. But if Aguero and Ororo both score 40/50 goals, then we now enter the realms of oya who your goal epp. That's why regardless of drought, Ororo is only ever compared to Messi. So guy calm down. there's some nuance to this, not just black and white. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:01pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Weyrey fe sa lo.....come back here, you're not going anywhere till you tell us who's better between Hazard and Mane this season using goals + assists stats as you've always done in seasons past ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 4:05pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
thorrvik55: Show me a game that ended 2-2 and a team got 3 points
This is a very stupid question. Who equalised in a 1-0 win? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:05pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Help your friend answer this question, he's currently on the hot seat to win 200m but he's obviously confused as hell. ![]() Hazard has 29 goals plus assists, Mane that we've all been hailing has 20 goals plus assists, please, who the better player? Hanksanuku, aka Nihilstjnr, Nihilist, U are free to phone 2 friends, A40 and Afrodoc ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 4:05pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:So why is ur analyses of sallah being better than hazard this season hinged on match winning goals,disputing other widely acclaimed nd important stats like assists n big chances? ![]() Despite both haven't won anything this season? ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 4:16pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Liverpool are doing better than Chelsea this year, and Salah has been more instrumental in helping pool this season. That's all I'm saying. like I said before Hazard has also been brilliant this year |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 4:17pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1: i will never interfere in family matters between you and your uncle ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 4:20pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1:Lol they will say Mane is competing for the title, whereas I remembered in our EPL win then with Conte, they rubbished Hazard performance while giving KDB all credit cos of goals and assists. Let’s see their explanation this time. The level of double standard is alarming. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:21pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
simonjassy: Let me ask you Do you think Milivojevic is at par with Son and Firmino since they all have the same 12 goals? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:22pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: I have shown you my source of truth, Liverpool website only shows what premier league site does |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:22pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:let us put this your winning goal talk to test, shall we? As important as winning goals can be sometimes, it can be deceiving and also dependent on other factors. Now, i am going to use the both leg matches of Chelsea and Liverpool as an instance for what I want to bring to light. In the first leg, hazard scored a goal that looked like a winning goal for almost 90 min until a short kepa allow a Sturridge equalizer. [hazard winning goal that should have won 3 points became 1 point goal]. Also, salah was useless throughout and i think was subbed early. Second leg, Liverpool were winning with one goal from Mane before salah scored the second. Mane's goal by right is the winning goal, while Salah's can be termed stat padding. But, Do you know that if alisson had mistakenly failed to keep out that hazard second 1vs1 effort and the ball went in, salah's goal that looked meaningless would have automatically turned to a winning goal? Now you see, as much sensible you think winning goal sounds in this argument, it can also sound senseless. Like i said earlier, i don't use some of this less important stats alone to rate players. I don't use goals and assists alone also, but even if we go that lane, hazard still comes out top. BTW, you have not answered the question i asked you last night. You are talking about winning goals, what about equalizing goals. Goals that won 1 point. Have you considered that? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:24pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1: When a player a fellow attacker has more goals than you, like Mane and Salah has over Hazard, you sit down Assists only come into it after goals have been sorted out 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 4:24pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:How do u define being instrumental? ![]() Is it the match winning goals or ur totality which is reflected in stats? ?? Liverpool is competing very well ..kudos 2 d coach Chelsea isn't nd u knw how the coach has been useless So when judging any player ...take out the team and go head 2 head with the players. . U can't say Henderson is better than Erikson just cos Liverpool is competing even when Erikson has 12 assists. . Judge urself 4 once 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 4:27pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Ur answer is rather stupid... The context we are referring to is when a team is losing 2-1 and u acknowledged did in ur first answer, so why are u bringing up 1-0 when we have been referring to a scenario where a team is losing 2-1 since 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:28pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:so, using this your argument, we can now say that Salah has been better than Mane this season? Please don't go to the big game talk. We know what the big games are and we know how both have performed in them. BTW, why are we talking about goals alone, what happened to assists? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: They key thing these shekpetedos dont understand |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:30pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1: Goals are higher than assists in importnce, its when goals are equal we can consider assists |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 4:32pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
airmark:Man will go any length if the stats are against him. raumdeuter:Liverpool FC said 7 assists Premier league said 7 assists FIFA said 7 assists Transfermarket said 10 assists So which should we believe? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:32pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Thecassanova: These Shekpetedos sha, Very ignorant and always lying WHen you won the EPL under Mourinho, KDB was not even in the EPL but you must just lie sha when you lie that often your lips become swollen like airmark own 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 4:33pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Greatihex: You have a valid point. My counter to that is frequency. Your absolutely right that a goal pulled back automatically changes ownership of the winning goal to the next scorer. But why does Salah have so many of such goals? Why does Hazard not have as many? This is where the stats are open for interpretation. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:33pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Thecassanova: Transfermarkt is the source of truth, a neutral website that is always consistent |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 4:35pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter:A mistake, I was referring to the first season with Conte. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 4:36pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Okay, so now topping assist chart as an attacker is not necessary ba. I thought it was how many goals + assists now the criteria has changed to just goals ba... |
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