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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:36am On Apr 30, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Title contenders Manchester City and Liverpool target 19-year-old Villarreal winger Samuel Chukwueze
I say go to Liverpool, at least he go play and I think they'll really need him, a team that has Origi and Chamberlain, Samu has a big chance there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 6:16am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Very tough choice but I say he goes to City and work with Guardiola. There would be a lot of competition there but his tactical acumen will improve greatly and his work rate will be phenomenal.

Also, it was Guardiola's former team mate, Emmanuel Amunike who discovered him. So Chukwueze has already played with similar ideas tactically. Coupled with coming from Spain where the tactics are similar. City to me is the best choice for him.

Chukwueze is Mahrez type of player and you know what Pep does to those who shoot instead of pass

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 6:51am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Very tough choice but I say he goes to City and work with Guardiola. There would be a lot of competition there but his tactical acumen will improve greatly and his work rate will be phenomenal.

Also, it was Guardiola's former team mate, Emmanuel Amunike who discovered him. So Chukwueze has already played with similar ideas tactically. Coupled with coming from Spain where the tactics are similar. City to me is the best choice for him.
City!!! Under Pep Guardiola?... If he joins city, that will be the beginning of the end of his career.
There's no way Pep is going to play him... He won't even make match day squads, he'll get "drilled" on the training ground for a full season, and he'll get so "good" that he won't even be able to dribble past a cripple man anymore and then be sold to Huddersfield town, stoke city or Leicester city.
Samu should for the love of God go to a team where he'll play or stay put at Villarreal. Iheanacho was drilled for a full season and his life was never the same again, we knew the player he was, now we know the player he his.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 7:00am On Apr 30, 2019
Hanibal:
City!!! Under Pep Guardiola?... If he joins city, that will be the beginning of the end of his career.
There's no way Pep is going to play him... He won't even make match day squads, he'll get "drilled" on the training ground for a full season, and he'll get so "good" that he won't even be able to dribble past a cripple man anymore and then be sold to Huddersfield town, stoke city or Leicester city.
Samu should for the love of God go to a team where he'll play or stay put at Villarreal. Iheanacho was drilled for a full season and his life was never the same again, we knew the player he was, now we know the player he his.

The only Nigerian player that can fit into city is Nwakali, the guy can pass all day
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:22am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Very tough choice but I say he goes to City and work with Guardiola. There would be a lot of competition there but his tactical acumen will improve greatly and his work rate will be phenomenal.

Also, it was Guardiola's former team mate, Emmanuel Amunike who discovered him. So Chukwueze has already played with similar ideas tactically. Coupled with coming from Spain where the tactics are similar. City to me is the best choice for him.
Honestly I'm starting to think Pep suppresses individual brilliance in players. He turns them all to system players and they don't get the necessary freedom some require to thrive.
He might be good for Samu at this young age to get the fundamentals right - but I'll prefer he plays under a manager like Klopp.
He's better off in Villarreal sef if we're being honest.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:23am On Apr 30, 2019
Earthquake3:


The only Nigerian player that can fit into city is Nwakali, the guy can pass all day
Kelechi or his older brother?? I heard he rated Chidi back when he was in city.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:25am On Apr 30, 2019
edi287:

Kelechi or his older brother?? I heard he rated Chidi back when he was in city.

Kelechi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:52am On Apr 30, 2019
BascoVanVeli:


Did arsenal release Ovie Ejeria? Didn't they call him back? There have been tons of kids called back by their clubs if you say this is strange then you are lying. This is the time that youth competitions are getting hot a Chelsea youth won't be looking for a competition to play in because they are there enough.

Arsenal released Ovie because they didn't tate him.

He went to Liverpool at 16 claimed position and the rest is history. He has played a few first team games but very far from being a regular.

As far as l know Arsenal did not call him back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:55am On Apr 30, 2019
tbaba1234:
Big scandal surrounding Aigbogun. I hear from reliable sources that players are paying between 2 million and 10 million to join the under 20 team to the WC. It is really tragic what i have heard.

ANS is reporting it as well.




Open Question yo everyone, is anybody SHOCKED

Is it unexpected, l do not think so.

In the NFF there is what you know and what you can prove. Because l can not prove does not mean it's not true.

Taking advantage of desperate Nigerian footballers who consider this as a lifetime chance yo change thier life situations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:58am On Apr 30, 2019
Humility017:


Bro. ..I am not surprised....
these men are stinky corrupt.

Historically, Intrinsically, Perpetually, Shamelessly, Unrepentantly CORRUPT

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:02am On Apr 30, 2019
edi287:

Honestly I'm starting to think Pep suppresses individual brilliance in players. He turns them all to system players and they don't get the necessary freedom some require to thrive.
He might be good for Samu at this young age to get the fundamentals right - but I'll prefer he plays under a manager like Klopp.
He's better off in Villarreal sef if we're being honest.

Yes, Pep suppresses individual brilliance but it also aids in matured team work in the players. At such, they become better players working towards a common goal than players playing to the gallery.

That knowledge improves the players tactical acumen, which in turn makes the player more efficient.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:07am On Apr 30, 2019
Hanibal:
City!!! Under Pep Guardiola?... If he joins city, that will be the beginning of the end of his career.
There's no way Pep is going to play him... He won't even make match day squads, he'll get "drilled" on the training ground for a full season, and he'll get so "good" that he won't even be able to dribble past a cripple man anymore and then be sold to Huddersfield town, stoke city or Leicester city.
Samu should for the love of God go to a team where he'll play or stay put at Villarreal. Iheanacho was drilled for a full season and his life was never the same again, we knew the player he was, now we know the player he his.

Iheanacho was eager to leave City for more money. He was not hungry for the knowledge he could get from Guardiola which would in turn make him better than he already was.

Rodgers has already explained that Nacho will flourish if given a run of games, which unfortunately he has not gotten.

Luckily, he is under a very bright manager in Rodgers and I hope he can keep his head down and soak in as much knowledge as he can. The game time will come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:10am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Yes, Pep suppresses individual brilliance but it also aids in matured team work in the players. At such, they become better players working towards a common goal than players playing to the gallery.

That knowledge improves the players tactical acumen, which in turn makes the player more efficient.
Makes everything Robotic, crap if you ask me...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:14am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Yes, Pep suppresses individual brilliance but it also aids in matured team work in the players. At such, they become better players working towards a common goal than players playing to the gallery.

That knowledge improves the players tactical acumen, which in turn makes the player more efficient.
True but some players require that freedom. I think it's one of the reasons Mahrez isn't doing well.
It's sort of similar to Van Gaal. Both like working with young players too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:14am On Apr 30, 2019
Earthquake3:


Chukwueze is Mahrez type of player and you know what Pep does to those who shoot instead of pass

Actually, I disagree with the comparison between Chukwueze and Mahrez. The challenge Mahrez is facing is that he does not play with pace, which has been instrumental in the success of Sterling and Bernardo Silva. To a less extent, Leroy Sane.

Pace is what Chukwueze has and if Pep refines other parts of his game, we would have a monster.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:15am On Apr 30, 2019
edi287:

True but some players require that freedom. I think it's one of the reasons Mahrez isn't doing well.
It's sort of similar to Van Gaal. Both like working with young players too.

Mahrez is just taking time to assimilate the message but if he continues soaking in the lessons, he will excel. The signs are showing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:16am On Apr 30, 2019
Odunayaw:
Makes everything Robotic, crap if you ask me...

The robotic system is actually the brilliance. They break down the complex nature of the game into a simple formula.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 9:37am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho was eager to leave City for more money. He was not hungry for the knowledge he could get from Guardiola which would in turn make him better than he already was.

Rodgers has already explained that Nacho will flourished if giving a run of games, which unfortunately he has not gotten.

Luckily, he is under a very bright manager in Rodgers and I hope he can keep his head down and soak in as much knowledge as he can. The game time will come.
So you'll advice Samu to go from being one of the first names on the team sheet to not making match day squads just so that he can "soak" in knowledge ehn
Let me add that what fans of sexy football like yourself call "football knowledge " domiciled in your beloved coaches like Guardiola, Rogers, Tuchel and the likes is actually boring to some of us... Some of us actually find Guardiola's style too scientific, too dogmatic to be exciting.
Some of us find a match where one team has 70% of the ball boring, some of us hate it when one coach buys the whole planet and win all available trophies.
Heck some us find it boring when one team wins the league with 5games to spare.
No ,we are not enemies of success or whatever you'll call it, we just love football to be competitive, breathtaking, unpredictable.
My point is not every soccer player is built to play the "Guardiola way", if a player that isn't built for Guardiola (especially when he is African) decides to sign for a Guardiola team... My brother, that will amount to career suicide.we've lost Iheanacho on the alter of Guardiola's overly scientific football, Samu doesn't need his type of knowledge to have a successful career.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 9:41am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Actually, I disagree with the comparison between Chukwueze and Mahrez. The challenge Mahrez is facing is that he does not play with pace, which has been instrumental in the success of Sterling and Bernardo Silva. To a less extent, Leroy Sane.

Pace is what Chukwueze has and if Pep refines other parts of his game, we would have a monster.
imagine Mahrez still needs to be "refined" at this stage of his career before he can play for Lord Guardiola. Lol.
You know what I think Mahrez's number 1 problem at city is?
HE IS FROM AFRICA.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 9:49am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Yes, Pep suppresses individual brilliance but it also aids in matured team work in the players. At such, they become better players working towards a common goal than players playing to the gallery.

That knowledge improves the players tactical acumen, which in turn makes the player more efficient.
And when he succeeds in suppressing the individual brilliance in you, and after one season he finds another shiny player in the market, he buys the player and confines you to the bench or totally frozen out of the squad for no reason... You get frustrated and want a transfer forgetting that all your individual brilliance has been coached out in favor of working in the" Guardiola system" now the system doesn't want you anymore, and you've become useless outside of it, unknown to you.
You get to a new club and you can't find your brilliance anymore, you become useless to the new team too...
Guardiola fans will now come around to laugh in your face: "I told you so! " you should have stayed on the training pitch to learn proper lessons under Lord Pep when you had the chance!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:03am On Apr 30, 2019
komekn:


Arsenal released Ovie because they didn't tate him.

He went to Liverpool at 16 claimed position and the rest is history. He has played a few first team games but very far from being a regular.

As far as l know Arsenal did not call him back.


He didn't play for us so somebody must have called him.

But do you think Chelsea would release a player who scored 30+ goals and 20+ assists in a season?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:14am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


The robotic system is actually the brilliance. They break down the complex nature of the game into a simple formula.
Yes, if we were playing Rugby, hockey or some other sport!

Football is only complex to those who worry too much. This is not mathematics or some weird fluid mechanics.
What's football without individual brilliance?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:42am On Apr 30, 2019
Which Nwakali? Lol
Earthquake3:


The only Nigerian player that can fit into city is Nwakali, the guy can pass all day
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:54am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Actually, I disagree with the comparison between Chukwueze and Mahrez. The challenge Mahrez is facing is that he does not play with pace, which has been instrumental in the success of Sterling and Bernardo Silva. To a less extent, Leroy Sane.

Pace is what Chukwueze has and if Pep refines other parts of his game, we would have a monster.

Pep does not like pace why do you think Sane is almost always on the bench, why do you think Sterling changed his style of play to passing type

Pep likes passing the ball into the net, Chukwueze is also a little selfish which Pep doesn't like to hear
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:55am On Apr 30, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:21am On Apr 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho was eager to leave City for more money. He was not hungry for the knowledge he could get from Guardiola which would in turn make him better than he already was.

Rodgers has already explained that Nacho will flourished if giving a run of games, which unfortunately he has not gotten.

Luckily, he is under a very bright manager in Rodgers and I hope he can keep his head down and soak in as much knowledge as he can. The game time will come.


excuse me , he leave city for more money?,

hmmmmm oga sufre oooo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 12:00pm On Apr 30, 2019
put this guy and uzoho beside each other and who is older
tbaba1234:
Under 20 player,

19 year old Henry Offia..

God help us.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 12:11pm On Apr 30, 2019
Those shouting corruption...hum....are we not all here when even Rohr defended Salisu?

Where is the case today? Do not be surprised....we have seen winter in Nigeria....Agents,coaches-local and national,academies connive to do these things...they protect each other s back...At a time we questioned the invitation of about six below average players to the Super Eagle..ALL MANAGED BY ONE AGENT that is friendly with the coach....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:12pm On Apr 30, 2019
If I were chukwueze, I would advise he chooses Liverpool. He has a better chance of playing more there and he will surely improve under Klopp

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:15pm On Apr 30, 2019
do4luv14:



excuse me , he leave city for more money?,

hmmmmm oga sufre oooo

Manchester City were not going to pay Iheanacho £70,000 a week. Leicester City were able to meet the demands. So he left.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:24pm On Apr 30, 2019
Earthquake3:


Pep does not like pace why do you think Sane is almost always on the bench, why do you think Sterling changed his style of play to passing type

Pep likes passing the ball into the net, Chukwueze is also a little selfish which Pep doesn't like to hear

That is what a lot of people are missing. Pep is obsessed with pace but that is when the team without the ball. Sterling, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, to some extent, David Silva work extremely hard and fast when we do not have the ball to win it back. Especially when we lose the ball at the attacking end.

Sane, even though I hate to admit it does not tell t work hard enough when we lose the ball. Even though he is gracious and fast with the ball, Guardiola wants it both ways, which in turn makes the player better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:25pm On Apr 30, 2019
Odunayaw:
Yes, if we were playing Rugby, hockey or some other sport!

Football is only complex to those who worry too much. This is not mathematics or some weird fluid mechanics.
What's football without individual brilliance?

There comes a time for individual brilliance but the game now has advanced from individual brilliance to team brilliance. Making every work with their best capacity towards team success.

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