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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by larride(m): 9:08am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3: iuwe is using the time travel in Flashpoint as the standard which time travel must adhere to and he’s wrong. Even the time travel in Flashpoint is flawed. The moment you go back in time to change the past, the future you come from cease to exist. That means when Barry saved his mother from dieing, Flash seize to exist and there’s no future for him to return to as he has changed the course his entire life will follow. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:08am On May 01, 2019 |
larride: Thats what im saying...they just followed their set uo time rule when its convenient and then make some stuff uop when backed into a corner... I cant hold them tho cos no one has actually time travelled 1 Like |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:09am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3:Yes and in 2023 the avengers reverse the snap |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:10am On May 01, 2019 |
larride: Flashpoints time travel had more consequences and feels more realistic than endgames own |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:10am On May 01, 2019 |
larride:this is what I started with yesterday oo |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:13am On May 01, 2019 |
hulk616: Wait...hold on...now ure bringing possibilities of a time loop with this ![]() ![]() Man im done...till someone actually invents a time travel machine in real life ![]() |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by larride(m): 9:14am On May 01, 2019 |
philfearon: Did you watch the scene of Ancient one and Banner? When Ancient one was telling him the consequence of taking the stones away? They explained it that returning back the stones reverts the timeline back to the way it was and nothing will be changed. That’s basically what happened. I will go with their explanation of how the time travel works than go with my own explanation since no one has actually embark on time travel before. I’m saying according to what they did in the movie, the time travel make sense. 1 Like |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by larride(m): 9:14am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3: How? |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:14am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3:if you read the button by Joshua Williamson, the rebirth by Geoff Johns, wedding gifts by Tom king, current Doomsday clock, Mr Oz in Superman you will see the error in flashpoint that they corrected in 2015-2017 which is what endgame did. That's the reason I compared flashpoint and endgame because I can't use those corrections in favor of endgame |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:17am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3:not time loop |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:23am On May 01, 2019 |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:24am On May 01, 2019 |
hulk616: Dont you get? It will be a time loop cos everything will keep reoeating itself...think about it |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:26am On May 01, 2019 |
hulk616: I didnt say flashpoint was perfect with their time shenanigans(you can never be) im just saying it feels more legit than saying you cant change the future by going to the past(endgame) |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:38am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3:Nooo |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:39am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3:that is what those DC writers established in their stories go and read them |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:40am On May 01, 2019 |
larride:the past they went back two, thor ragnarok has not happened and thus asgard was still a place a d not the people. The future changed cause thank didn't snap again. They looked for alternate way. In the future thanos was supposed to find the stone but now he didn't. Instead he can back from the past. So thanos future was changed immediately thanos came to earth before the actual prophecy. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:41am On May 01, 2019 |
hulk616:It was never stated if she died, and I still don't believe she did. yes now we are going somewhere. Then when hulk travelled back in time and met the ancient one she said removing the infinity stones will create alternate timeline. Lets use the corrected flashpoint storyline, when flash was back in time and saved his mother a new timeline was formed with the help of reverse flash, then when flash went back to prevent himself for travelling back in time in the first place he did not return to his timeline because of what Dr Manhattan did. But that timeline(flashpoint) was still running before Dr Manhattan finally erased it in the button. And you know this whole rebirth is about connecting the pre new 52 and rebirth lines.Firstly, the ancient one told hulk that if the stones weren't return back to their time point, it would create an alternate reality, then the hulk replied that he would return the stone back making it look like it was never taken in the first place. If they hadn't returned the stone back, it would create another timeline but they did so no new timeline was created. So, all this while the avengers was fighting Thanos in their own timeline. Killing 2014 Thanos means there should not be a 2018 thanks. Secondly, reverse flash didn't help the flash create flashpoint. Infact when they met, reverse flash was amazed at what flash did to the timeline and since they both are faster than time itself they both knew of both realities. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:49am On May 01, 2019 |
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 9:50am On May 01, 2019 |
hulk616: Gimme link to them |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:04am On May 01, 2019 |
pu7pl3:Google it posting links and pictures usually get me banned |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by larride(m): 10:04am On May 01, 2019 |
CHESTER48: Yet at the end of the movie, Asgard remained destroyed. Dr Strange is now sorcerer supreme instead of ancient one. If the future changed, then There should be no Spider-Man in the MCU and the guardians of the galaxy never met Thor when Asgard was destroyed and know about the avengers. Think about it, the future remained unchanged, they didn’t go to the past to stop Thanos from getting the stones, they went to take the stone to undo the snap and return the stone back. Everything before the snap remained the same. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by larride(m): 10:07am On May 01, 2019 |
iuwe: You are confusing yourself. They didn’t return the stone until Thanos was killed in the current timeline, Thanos was stopping them from returning the stones because he knew he can’t change the past. What has happened has happened. The moment they returned the stones, the timeline revert back to the way it was. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by philfearon(m): 10:09am On May 01, 2019 |
larride:No, it doesn't make sense. According to the same movie, Thanos told the Avengers he has destroyed the Infinity Stones. Therefore, how could the Infinity Stones still exist and work in the same Universe and timeline which they have been destroyed? Care to enlighten me? |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:10am On May 01, 2019 |
iuwe:Nooooooooo. Please watch the movie again. I m so tired. I dont understand why DC fans don't get it. All my explanation and even understand of endgame time travel is the information from flashpoint corrected storyline. SMH |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by philfearon(m): 10:12am On May 01, 2019 |
CHESTER48:Exactly. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Afobear: 10:13am On May 01, 2019 |
Raalsalghul: Nightmares became his Bed ...Marvel please make this man sane again
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Collinz2(m): 10:14am On May 01, 2019 |
HRwells:Arab! I've watched different movies that time travel occurred and they are all the same as in the butterfly effect. Going back in time in the first place changes the future (in case you don't come back) and changing anything there means you step on a butterfly which cause the butterfly effect as a result it changes the future (creating a similar timeline). The Avengers going back in time changes the future and killing the past Thanos of 2014 will change a lot of things like people that Thanos killed will be alive and more. I still dont understand Alternate reality Marvel is referring to. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:14am On May 01, 2019 |
philfearon:the infinity stones were not destroyed through out the entire timeline!!!!!! If you kill a cow on Friday that cow doesn't exist again but the cow existed on Thursday, Wednesday, Tuesday.....etc !!!! 1 Like |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by larride(m): 10:15am On May 01, 2019 |
philfearon: That’s why it called time travel, they went back in time to get the stones before Thanos destroyed it and used it to undo the snap. They didn’t change anything from the past, they didn’t stop Thanos from getting the stones, rather they took the stones from the past to their own timeline to undo what Thanos did. So taking back the stones to where we they were before effectively means everything reverts back to the way they were. If Thanos 2014 had not come in contact with Nebula 2023, the plan was to get the stones, undo the snap then return the stones back to where they took it. Everything that happened already happened. They can’t change that. That’s the reason those that was brought back to life still had the memory of what happened before the snap. 1 Like |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by philfearon(m): 10:16am On May 01, 2019 |
larride:Bro, which movie did you watch please? Because I'm beginning to doubt it's Avengers: Endgame!!! |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by philfearon(m): 10:17am On May 01, 2019 |
hulk616:You are now lending credence to what i have been saying. It was one timeline until the Time travel ish which messed up everything. |
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:19am On May 01, 2019 |
philfearon:noo |
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