larride:


That’s why it called time travel, they went back in time to get the stones before Thanos destroyed it and used it to undo the snap.


They didn’t change anything from the past, they didn’t stop Thanos from getting the stones, rather they took the stones from the past to their own timeline to undo what Thanos did. So taking back the stones to where we they were before effectively means everything reverts back to the way they were.

If Thanos 2014 had not come in contact with Nebula 2023, the plan was to get the stones, undo the snap then return the stones back to where they took it. Everything that happened already happened. They can’t change that. That’s the reason those that was brought back to life still had the memory of what happened before the snap.

Except he did come in contact with her, and the Thanos that would have developed to cause the havoc in Infinity War didn't happen. His trajectory changed, therefore Infinity War never happened and neither does the Snap... Do you now understand it?

philfearon:

Bro, which movie did you watch please? Because I'm beginning to doubt it's Avengers: Endgame!!!

Let me make it simpler for you.

In 2014, there’s no;
Dr. Strange, Ancient one is still the sorcerer supreme
Spider-man is not yet part of the MCU
Quill and his guardian of the galaxy does not know anything about the Avengers on earth.
Asgard was not yet destroyed.

At the end of Endgame;
Dr Strange is the sorcerer supreme
Spider-Man is part of the MCU
Quill and the guardian of the galaxy knows how the avengers are
Asgard was destroyed.

Now, this is what I’m pointing at;

If Thanos 2014 coming to the current timeline changed the future then;

Ancient one will still be the Sorcerer Supreme because what happened in 2016 to make Dr. Strange sorcerer supreme won’t have occurred.

Quill and his guardian of the galaxy won’t have met Thor when Thanos destroyed their ship in IW 2018

Spider-Man won’t have met Iron man and won’t be part of the MCU

Asgard will still remain a place and not a people it currently is.

Loki will still be alive, Thanos won’t have killed him in IW.

They didn’t alter anything from the past. According to the movie, everything that happened before Endgame has happened, nothing can change it except the snap that was undo with the stones.

Do you understand now?

philfearon:

Except he did come in contact with her, and the Thanos that would have developed to cause the havoc in Infinity War didn't happen. His trajectory changed, therefore Infinity War never happened and neither does the Snap... Do you now understand it?

That means you weren’t paying attention.

How come Dr Strange and Spider-Man still remembered what happened before the snap?

How come Asgard remained destroyed? (Thor ragnarok)

How come Loki remained dead?

Pay attention to details!!!

larride:


That means you weren’t paying attention.

How come Dr Strange and Spider-Man still remembered what happened before the snap?

How come Asgard remained destroyed? (Thor ragnarok)

How come Loki remained dead?

Pay attention to details!!!

You are not even getting the argument. The issue is not about what happened in the movie or what the Directors showed in the movie, the argument is that their explanation of events in the movie does not hold water when weighed with events in the movie.
Since you are saying that everything is intact and nothing changed, Why is Gamora still alive?
And who said Loki is dead? Or did you forget that his timeline has changed too?
Guy, I'm tired abeg!

philfearon:

You are not even getting the argument. The issue is not about what happened in the movie or what the Directors showed in the movie, the argument is that their explanation of events in the movie does not hold water when weighed with events in the movie.
Since you are saying that everything is intact and nothing changed, Why is Gamora still alive?
And who said Loki is dead? Or did you forget that his timeline has changed too?
Guy, I'm tired abeg!

How is Gamora alive? Did you see her after Thanos and her army were wished away? Or is it because Quill saw her? The same Quill that didn’t know it was the Gamora from the past?

If Loki is not dead, how come he’s not in the movie? How come Valkyrie is now the Queen of Asgard in far away Norway?

Everything was explained in the movie but you know more than the directors of the movie. Go n direct it the way you want.

larride:


How is Gamora alive? Did you see her after Thanos and her army were wished away? Or is it because Quill saw her? The same Quill that didn’t know it was the Gamora from the past?

If Loki is not dead, how come he’s not in the movie? How come Valkyrie is now the Queen of Asgard in far away Norway?

Everything was explained in the movie but you know more than the directors of the movie. Go n direct it the way you want.

DC fans are very stubborn

waywardpikin:
So apparently, Thanos gave Hulk such an asś whooping in Infinity War that it drove him back to sanity. Compare the Hulk of New York in 2012 to Endgame Prof Hulk. That guy was neutered mehn, they chopped the green man's balls off and gave him to eat.


First he got his asś whooped like a toddler by Tony Stark in AoU, then nearly got killed by Thor in Ragnarok, then was decimated by Thanos in Infinity War. In Endgame, he was just like a domesticated animal that anyone could play with and take selfies with.

My question is, why does Marvel hate the Hulk so much?

Why? Why? Why??

He deserved better abeg!

I'm with you on this... I've been complaining since the first avengers movie. The nefred Hulk like mad. IM using the hulkbuster to beat the Hulk was what made me angry the most. Something that the Hulk would have ripped apart normally. Well, I understand why Marvel did it tho... But I'm still pissed about it.

In the comics, hulk is almost indestructible. Hardly will anyone beat him in his Hulk form. Most times, it's when he reverts back to Banner that he suffers.

Raalsalghul:
[b]When I call the MCU...Marvel Confused Universe, fan boys get pissed like a baby whose milk has been snatched.
Shebi you'll were basking in the 1.2 billion dollars weekend opening.
Some mofos even called it the best film ever...

But as I've said before Marvel films don't start the test of time.
They may wow you with the effects and spectacle on first viewing, but it wears off as you descend the steps of the Cineplex.
The much touted endgame hasn't even stayed up to a week, yet I can see some fan boys in a back and forth banter as regards the time travelling antics.

What does that tell you?
It says a lot about a studio that doesn't know how to get shit together.
However, they are experts at costuming, fight scenes, special effects and cheap humor.
Of course, they know that audiences are dumb as referenced by the likes of Mjgoat (Mjbolt ), the semi-zombie (Hulk616), the lackey (Shittaakeem) and the jobless postdigger Afonama(Afobear ).


They also know that same numbnuts will cough 1 billion dollars for that travesty captain whatever-her-name-is. I don't care!
But I will only take a Marvel film serious when they break into the first 50 highly rated films on IMDB.
Oh you thought I was gonna say RT.
Same platform you bribed to improved audience's review for dull blondie.
Never!


Little wonder they don't have all their characters.
But when other studios adapt them into good movies, they claim them as their own a la Into the spiderverse.
I wonder if they'll do the same for a film like Xmen Origins: the wolverine.
Infact, have these dunces ever wondered why their talents are jumping over to the other side.
Maybe they've not heard about the recent. one: David Dastmalchian.

I'll repeat again.
I'll rather deactivate for a diseased street dog than these folks!


Until then lackeys.
Stay zombified!
Regards
Raz al' Ghul
(The Demon Head)[/b]

raalsalghul is a comedian now DC fans are not using RT again it's IMDB. I hope when we beat you there you won't move to nani6666 rating

MrDojo:


I'm with you on this... I've been complaining since the first avengers movie. The nefred Hulk like mad. IM using the hulkbuster to beat the Hulk was what made me angry the most. Something that the Hulk would have ripped apart normally. Well, I understand why Marvel did it tho... But I'm still pissed about it.

In the comics, hulk is almost indestructible. Hardly will anyone beat him in his Hulk form. Most times, it's when he reverts back to Banner that he suffers.

blame universal

hulk616:
blame universal

Nah... The blame is on Marvel. Although they have a weird thing going with the right to use the Hulk, it does not mean they have to nerf him.

Like I said earlier, I understand why they did it. If they had made him too powerful, hardly would anyone threaten the avengers.

larride:


iuwe is using the time travel in Flashpoint as the standard which time travel must adhere to and he’s wrong.

Even the time travel in Flashpoint is flawed. The moment you go back in time to change the past, the future you come from cease to exist. That means when Barry saved his mother from dieing, Flash seize to exist and there’s no future for him to return to as he has changed the course his entire life will follow.

Nah... Time travel in Flashpoint doesn't work like that... Yes, it is flawed, but it also makes sense in its own right.

hulk616:
Google it posting links and pictures usually get me banned

No fear...gimme link nothing will happen

MrDojo:


I'm with you on this... I've been complaining since the first avengers movie. The nefred Hulk like mad. IM using the hulkbuster to beat the Hulk was what made me angry the most. Something that the Hulk would have ripped apart normally. Well, I understand why Marvel did it tho... But I'm still pissed about it.

In the comics, hulk is almost indestructible. Hardly will anyone beat him in his Hulk form. Most times, it's when he reverts back to Banner that he suffers.

Exactly!

MrDojo:


Nah... Time travel in Flashpoint doesn't work like that... Yes, it is flawed, but it also makes sense in its own right.

So what made you think time travel in Flashpoint is better than time travel in Endgame? Who set the standard?

waywardpikin:
So apparently, Thanos gave Hulk such an asś whooping in Infinity War that it drove him back to sanity. Compare the Hulk of New York in 2012 to Endgame Prof Hulk. That guy was neutered mehn, they chopped the green man's balls off and gave him to eat.


First he got his asś whooped like a toddler by Tony Stark in AoU, then nearly got killed by Thor in Ragnarok, then was decimated by Thanos in Infinity War. In Endgame, he was just like a domesticated animal that anyone could play with and take selfies with.

My question is, why does Marvel hate the Hulk so much?

Why? Why? Why??

He deserved better abeg!

It shows that hulk is nothing but a pucci that's why marvel hates hulk616

larride:


So what made you think time travel in Flashpoint is better than time travel in Endgame? Who set the standard?

Did I state in my previous post that TT in Flashpoint was better than EG?

I said, in the context of the story, Flashpoint's TT made a lot of sense. I did not compare it to EG. If you have read back, you will see where I told hulk6116 that EG's TT looks more realistic to me. Although it has its own flaws, too.

MrDojo:


Nah... The blame is on Marvel. Although they have a weird thing going with the right to use the Hulk, it does not mean they have to nerf him.

Like I said earlier, I understand why they did it. If they had made him too powerful, hardly would anyone threaten the avengers.

there are many stories when hulk was very powerful and he was still defeated

pu7pl3:


No fear...gimme link nothing will happen

experience is key

TheKingIsHere:


It shows that hulk is nothing but a pucci that's why marvel hates hulk616

no proof

MrDojo:


Did I state in my previous post that TT in Flashpoint was better than EG?

I said, in the context of the story, Flashpoint's TT made a lot of sense. I did not compare it to EG. If you have read back, you will see where I told hulk6116 that EG's TT looks more realistic to me. Although it has its own flaws, too.

it's hulk616 be careful don't warp me out of reality

hulk616:
there are many stories when hulk was very powerful and he was still defeated

Yes, I know. But he lost like a beast, not like a pussy. I don't know if you get what I'm saying.

hulk616:
it's hulk616 be careful don't warp me out of reality

I added the extra 1, because I did not want you to get an unnecessary mention.

larride:


How is Gamora alive? Did you see her after Thanos and her army were wished away? Or is it because Quill saw her? The same Quill that didn’t know it was the Gamora from the past?

If Loki is not dead, how come he’s not in the movie? How come Valkyrie is now the Queen of Asgard in far away Norway?

Everything was explained in the movie but you know more than the directors of the movie. Go n direct it the way you want.

Please keep believing what you believe okay... And keep seeing the things you are seeing...

Word of advice though, you are flirting your ignorance and myopic perspectives in front of the public!

hulk616:
experience is key

Lol...once bitten forever shy

MrDojo:


Yes, I know. But he lost like a beast, not like a pussy. I don't know if you get what I'm saying.

But wait how was hulk made to look weak in endgame?

That snap was a great feat if you ask me and he has healing abilities soo expect his arm to be back to normal in no time plus he also held up the wreckage with one good arm before antman came and rescued them

Speaking of antman...he also had interesting feats on the power scale too

pu7pl3:


But wait how was hulk made to look weak in endgame?

That snap was a great feat if you ask me and he has healing abilities soo expect his arm to be back to normal in no time plus he also held up the wreckage with one good arm before antman came and rescued them

Speaking of antman...he also had interesting feats on the power scale too

Lol antman was a boss in this one. I dare say he was the/an MVP because he rallied the troops when all hope was lost.

And all hope was fùcking lost, Thor being the personification of said shìt. Pardon my Latin.

The endgame left us with so many questions. My main anger is what they have done to Hulk but still I enjoyed the movie.

Like a rat actually saved everyone
Tony didn't feel the effect of the gauntlet like hulk felt it, well Tony died but I'm talking about when he first put it on. Lazy writing if you should ask me
So basically the only use of the new avenger was to save Tony in space. She also took down the space ship thanos was using. Common we all know Thor could have done that

waywardpikin:


Lol antman was a boss in this one. I dare say he was the/an MVP because he rallied the troops when all hope was lost.

And all hope was fùcking lost, Thor being the personification of said shìt. Pardon my Latin.

Yea thats what i was telling hulk616...the man deserves more credit...him and that stray rat
Plus he k.oed that mechanical flying worm with one punch and just stepped on that guy that was beating ironman and spiderman in infinity war...mad awesome

pu7pl3:


Yea thats what i was telling hulk616...the man deserves more credit...him and that stray rat
Plus he k.oed that mechanical flying worm with one punch and just stepped on that guy that was beating ironman and spiderman in infinity war...mad awesome

Yeah that worm went down one time. The final act was badass. I found the first act intriguing, felt a little tired around the second act cos it was mad late. But by the final act my eyes were wide open. Left the cinema around 1:30am. The 3 hour runtime no be small tin o

NeededGist:
The endgame left us with so many questions. My main anger is what they have done to Hulk but still I enjoyed the movie.

Like a rat actually saved everyone
Tony didn't feel the effect of the gauntlet like hulk felt it, well Tony died but I'm talking about when he first put it on. Lazy writing if you should ask me
So basically the only use of the new avenger was to save Tony in space. She also took down the space ship thanos was using. Common we all know Thor could have done that

another DC cry baby for your information captain marvel is still beating and destroying the failure called Shazam in box office

pu7pl3:


Yea thats what i was telling hulk616...the man deserves more credit...him and that stray rat
Plus he k.oed that mechanical flying worm with one punch and just stepped on that guy that was beating ironman and spiderman in infinity war...mad awesome

yes he deserves more credit but as I said before Tony death and captain America overshadowed him

waywardpikin:


Yeah that worm went down one time. The final act was badass. I found the first act intriguing, felt a little tired around the second act cos it was mad late. But by the final act my eyes were wide open. Left the cinema around 1:30am. The 3 hour runtime no be small tin o

whatever it takes