rottennaija:


Just like the one before from jw. Org

Don't tell me you have just made use of an ANTI-JW WEBSITE. Hahahahahaha!

This particular WEBSITE must be ONE of those HALF TRUTH WEBSITES? Isn't it? Oga rottennaija.

achorladey:


Did you attempt the question? No!

When you answer it you will identify them?

Another one for you, who is the LION of the tribe of JUDAH.

Who did LION OF JUDAH ask us to follow? Or be a follower of?

Well i have identified them and until you're able to parade a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP,all your write~ups remains PONITLESS and NONE SUBSTANTIAL!

achorladey:



Don't tell me you have just made use of an ANTI-JW WEBSITE. Hahahahahaha!

This particular WEBSITE must be ONE of those HALF TRUTH WEBSITES? Isn't it? Oga rottennaija.

Well, according to Jozzy4, it must be

Maximus69:
Well i have identified them and until you're able to parade a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP,all your write~ups remains PONITLESS and NONE SUBSTANTIAL!

Please Maximus, during PHISICAL warfare
*Is it compulsory you IDENTIFY your team mates?
*Any forms of IDENTIFYING marks?
*What about a soldier found without the marks?

achorladey:


You still have not seen it? Hahahahaha! Go back and read.

It cost you nothing to state, does it ?
For the records Rev 5:9,10 quoted by you in your half baked response you called post, state that those brought from earth TO HEAVEN actually RULE over EARTH


It says nothing about Earth inhabit ruling over others , which shows they are not kings

Once again, if they are kings according to your theology, kindly show me whom those on earth rule Over ?

Maximus69:
Well i have identified them and until you're able to parade a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP,all your write~ups remains PONITLESS and NONE SUBSTANTIAL!

Those guys are not intellectual, actually many of the bible verses and articles he post up and down are the work of a certain silly website . all he does is go there to copy and paste anytime you chat them . but as it is, they are divided. They can't Even prove those on earth are rulers, that achorladey even tried bringing an half baked idea that was dead on arrival I.e ruling over unrighteous ones. But since no scripture to defend that and his pastor on the other website didn't provide details on that. He was shut down. You can see how they are even divided on this thread . every kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.


Let me tell you something funny, while many of this websites attack Jehovah's people, they are divided on topics like Trinity, Hellfire and immortal soul. Some after leaving Gods people feel they should embrace those topics again, but others Still agreed those are false. So even apostates are divided. some feel they should even abandon religion altogether


Tell me how a kingdom divided against itself can stand ?

TATIME:
Please Maximus, during PHISICAL warfare
*Is it compulsory you IDENTIFY your team mates?
*Any forms of IDENTIFYING marks?
*What about a soldier found without the marks?

Highly compulsory, Jesus himself state " whoever is not against you, is for you " . know your Group

So which translate that whoever is against you, is not for you.

So maximus69 was right when he said they are not brothers, simply because he who is against you, isn't for you .

Maximus69:
Well i have identified them and until you're able to parade a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP,all your write~ups remains PONITLESS and NONE SUBSTANTIAL!

Maximus69: Well i have identified them

Achorladey: You have identified them. Good for you

Maximus69: and until you're able to parade a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP,

Achorladey: But you are already in a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP. Keep serving as CHRIST SOLDIER there. Did I ask you to LEAVE?

After all since yours is better, it means definitely others are GOOD. Hahahahahaha
or are they BAD?

Maximus69: all your write~ups remains PONITLESS and NONE SUBSTANTIAL!

Achorladey: They are POINTLESS and NONE SUBSTANTIAL and you can't even respond to any of the question asked. Whatever, na your ANALOGY, when thrown back at you, it is either it becomes NONE SUBSTANTIAL or POINTLESS!

Jozzy4:


It cost you nothing to state, does it ?
For the records Rev 5:9,10 quoted by you in your half baked response you called post, state that those brought from earth TO HEAVEN actually RULE over EARTH


It says nothing about Earth inhabit ruling over others , which shows they are not kings

Once again, if they are kings according to your theology, kindly show me whom those on earth rule Over ?

Jozzy4: It cost you nothing to state, does it ?

Achorladey: Haven't I?

Jozzy4: For the records Rev 5:9,10 quoted by you in your half baked response you called post,

Achorladey: HALF BAKED RESPONSE and WACK. Hahaha. The answer you seek is there go back and check.

Jozzy4: state that those brought from earth TO HEAVEN actually RULE over EARTH.

Achorladey: Did they REIGN on the EARTH or NOT?

Jozzy4: It says nothing about Earth inhabit ruling over others,

Achorladey: Who are the EARTH INHABITANTS once AGAIN?

Jozzy4: which shows they are not kings

Achorladey: Because they are not in HEAVEN ABI?

Jozzy4: Once again, if they are kings according to your theology, kindly show me whom those on earth rule Over ?

Achorladey: You have the answer already. You even went ahead to ask for scriptures to support it which I have equally given.

rottennaija:

Well, according to Jozzy4, it must be

I don't think you have another way to answer the question though.

achorladey:



Jozzy4: It cost you nothing to state, does it ?

Achorladey: Haven't I?

Jozzy4: For the records Rev 5:9,10 quoted by you in your half baked response you called post,

Achorladey: HALF BAKED RESPONSE and WACK. Hahaha. The answer you seek is there go back and check.

Jozzy4: state that those brought from earth TO HEAVEN actually RULE over EARTH.

Achorladey: Did they REIGN on the EARTH or NOT?

Jozzy4: It says nothing about Earth inhabit ruling over others,

Achorladey: Who are the EARTH INHABITANTS once AGAIN?

Jozzy4: which shows they are not kings

Achorladey: Because they are not in HEAVEN ABI?

Jozzy4: Once again, if they are kings according to your theology, kindly show me whom those on earth rule Over ?

Achorladey: You have the answer already. You even went ahead to ask for scriptures to support it which I have equally given.

No, you need help ? Let me assist

The bold reigning on Earth ARE IN HEAVEN. ( Rev 20:6 should help you should in case you don't know the " THEY" are in heaven)

So state where those living on earth are called rulers ?

TATIME:
Please Maximus, during PHISICAL warfare
*Is it compulsory you IDENTIFY your team mates?
*Any forms of IDENTIFYING marks?
*What about a soldier found without the marks?

Good morning Sir!
¤Any sign of feelings for a none team member is viewed as a weakness in a soldier, you must identify your team mates as FRIENDS and none team members as FOES. If your team members or commander finds out that you're having any kind of feeling for one of the opposite team, an order is issued immediately to FIRE you as in KILL you!
¤ It's a terrible and horrible thing to be at the war front, you'll see people killing people massively like pests, soldiers only spare you if you're having their IDENTIFYING mark as a friend, the only thing that could help in making you a none target is when you're unharmed. So with weapons on you, their must be an IDENTIFYING mark!
¤Such a soldier is wasted immediately without delay! Both sides won't spare him/her due to suspicion, if he/she manages to escape to a team he/she needs to quickly IDENTIFY him/herself to avoid been fired! At war we only know our superior with the ranks,all uniforms are exactly the same with all the features to identify our team mates.
That's why i decided to know how Christians who are never to raise up physical weapons could have the mentality of soldiers. All those characteristics are found in the JWs, so without any doubt only the JWs could be rightly called SOLDIERS in CHRIST!

@Tatime.
All what these critics are trying to say is 'there shouldn't be such psychological,spiritual and social fence separating people simply because of religion' but as for me, i know what it means to be in a team and what opposition truthfully means.
What they failed to realise is that even while Jesus won't raise his hands to destroy a soul, yet he made it clear that there MUST be identifying marks for family members to differentiate them from none family members SPIRITUALLY speaking! Matthew 12:47-50
Well that's exactly what the GB of the JWs have been able to achieve without the use of force or physical weapons so i'll always give them kudos for that!

achorladey:


I don't think you have another way to answer the question though.

You know, Jws are like parent who will reject the child they promise to love no matter what immediately the child renounces their religion. Even if the child is a toddler.

How much more so their own literature? Even if you show them from their own website, they will must certainly view it with suspicion. So, I was only looking at it from their perspective, how they think and see things.

Jozzy4:


It cost you nothing to state, does it ?
For the records Rev 5:9,10 quoted by you in your half baked response you called post, state that those brought from earth TO HEAVEN actually RULE over EARTH


It says nothing about Earth inhabit ruling over others , which shows they are not kings

Once again, if they are kings according to your theology, kindly show me whom those on earth rule Over ?

Re 5:9,10, the word there is bought, not brought

rottennaija:


You know, Jws are like parent who will reject the child they promise to love no matter what immediately the child renounces their religion. Even if the child is a toddler.

How much more so their own literature? Even if you show them from their own website, they will must certainly view it with suspicion. So, I was only looking at it from their perspective, how they think and see things.

You need not worry yourself about the JWs Sir!
A soldier will always be a soldier no matter what you say, there is that mentality in the REAL children of God. Remember he is Jehovah of armies! So don't expect his children to be weak in decision making over taking sides! James 4:7,8
Whoever finds his/her way out of the organization at that is simply not a REAL soldier at heart! Matthew 10:37

Maximus69:
You need not worry yourself about the JWs Sir!
A soldier will always be a soldier no matter what you say, there is that mentality in the REAL children of God. Remember he is Jehovah of armies! So don't expect his children to be weak in decision making over taking sides! James 4:7,8
Whoever finds his/her way out of the organization at that is simply not a REAL soldier at heart! Matthew 10:37

Are Jws real children of God?

Maximus69:
Good morning Sir!
¤Any sign of feelings for a none team member is viewed as a weakness in a soldier, you must identify your team mates as FRIENDS and none team members as FOES. If your team members or commander finds out that you're having any kind of feeling for one of the opposite team, an order is issued immediately to FIRE you as in KILL you!
¤ It's a terrible and horrible thing to be at the war front, you'll see people killing people massively like pests, soldiers only spare you if you're having their IDENTIFYING mark as a friend, the only thing that could help in making you a none target is when you're unharmed. So with weapons on you, their must be an IDENTIFYING mark!
¤Such a soldier is wasted immediately without delay! Both sides won't spare him/her due to suspicion, if he/she manages to escape to a team he/she needs to quickly IDENTIFY him/herself to avoid been fired! At war we only know our superior with the ranks,all uniforms are exactly the same with all the features to identify our team mates.
That's why i decided to know how Christians who are never to raise up physical weapons could have the mentality of soldiers. All those characteristics are found in the JWs, so without any doubt only the JWs could be rightly called SOLDIERS in CHRIST!

Future GB member, I'm sure in your time Jws will start bearing arms, maybe very small ones. Quite possibly, they will be required to have a unique membership number and the jw.org logo with them always.

Maximus69:
Good morning Sir!
¤Any sign of feelings for a none team member is viewed as a weakness in a soldier, you must identify your team mates as FRIENDS and none team members as FOES. If your team members or commander finds out that you're having any kind of feeling for one of the opposite team, an order is issued immediately to FIRE you as in KILL you!
¤ It's a terrible and horrible thing to be at the war front, you'll see people killing people massively like pests, soldiers only spare you if you're having their IDENTIFYING mark as a friend, the only thing that could help in making you a none target is when you're unharmed. So with weapons on you, their must be an IDENTIFYING mark!
¤Such a soldier is wasted immediately without delay! Both sides won't spare him/her due to suspicion, if he/she manages to escape to a team he/she needs to quickly IDENTIFY him/herself to avoid been fired! At war we only know our superior with the ranks,all uniforms are exactly the same with all the features to identify our team mates.
That's why i decided to know how Christians who are never to raise up physical weapons could have the mentality of soldiers. All those characteristics are found in the JWs, so without any doubt only the JWs could be rightly called SOLDIERS in CHRIST!

Have you attended any other religion and become a full member aside from Jw before?

rottennaija:


Have you attended any other religion and become a full member aside from Jw before?

Hmmm,
Instead of continually asking questions, why not just get yourself a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP and forget all about the JWs? Or form a GROUP of ex~JWs and start doing things right to help people SEE how Christianity ought to be!
You once said Catholics and SDA are equally performing well as Christians, so why worry yourself over the JWs since the organization is made up of believers in GB instead of believers in Christ as you thought it supposed to be?
Well Jesus said his followers are the salt and light of the world. Light is kept where all eyes could SEE it:meaning the doctrines will be known everywhere by intelligent observers!
Salt is a preservative, so that means most people will be influenced or reckon with his group's believes even though they will not accept their teachings, of course no matter what all other religions claims they're still looking forward to whatever the JWs are saying or going to say. For instance you and your colleagues have spent years on NL all because of what the JWs teaches those who listens to them, whereas there are thousands of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines out there!
So truthfully speaking the JWs are the light and salt as you all have no other group to look up to, yet you just keep agitating that they're wrong!

rottennaija:

Future GB member, I'm sure in your time Jws will start bearing arms, maybe very small ones. Quite possibly, they will be required to have a unique membership number and the jw.org logo with them always.

JWs already have that!
Don't forget IT'S SPIRITUAL not PHYSICAL, Whenever you see those who can let go of anything to keep their integrity before their God those are the JWs, no matter the religion they're practicing presently, they will still find their way into the camp of JWs someday! Hebrew 10:38

Maximus69:
Hmmm,
Instead of continually asking questions, why not just get yourself a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP and forget all about the JWs? Or form a GROUP of ex~JWs and start doing things right to help people SEE how Christianity ought to be!
You once said Catholics and SDA are equally performing well as Christians, so why worry yourself over the JWs since the organization is made up of believers in GB instead of believers in Christ as you thought it supposed to be?
Well Jesus said his followers are the salt and light of the world. Light is kept where all eyes could SEE it:meaning the doctrines will be known everywhere by intelligent observers!
Salt is a preservative, so that means most people will be influenced or reckon with his group's believes even though they will not accept their teachings, of course no matter what all other religions claims they're still looking forward to whatever the JWs are saying or going to say. For instance you and your colleagues have spent years on NL all because of what the JWs teaches those who listens to them, whereas there are thousands of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines out there!
So truthfully speaking the JWs are the light and salt as you all have no other group to look up to, yet you just keep agitating that they're wrong!

So you have not?

rottennaija:


Are Jws real children of God?

Maximus69

You didn't answer this one

achorladey:


I don't think you have another way to answer the question though.

I have responded to your email

rottennaija:


Maximus69

You didn't answer this one

Any human you can think of is a child of God. Luke 3:38
It was due to the rebellion in Eden that broke the relationship so God had to BUY humans back to himself from the curse brought upon us by Adam.
First of all he claimed ONLY the Israelites as his SPECIAL possession due to the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they were supposed to serve as secondary mediators between Jehovah and the rest of mankind [Zechariah 8:23] while Christ serve as the primary mediator! Revelations 14:1
But the nation kept producing bad fruits [Matthew 21:33-46] God intended given that privilege to another nation that will produce the fruit. That's what brought about the 144,000 chosen from all the earth to serve as spiritual Israelites[Revelations 7:5-8] they're the first set of God's children and who ever wants God to view him as a child must acknowledge and hold unto these ones otherwise such a person is ON HIS OWN!
JWs globally have recognised those secondary mediators today so the process of become REAL children of God just like these BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS is gradually working out for them.
So YES we are the one and only group where you can find the REAL children of God in the making!
Any other group definitely don't understand all of these and they will all perish for lacking KNOWLEDGE! Hosea 4:6

Maximus69:

Any human you can think of is a child of God. Luke 3:38
It was due to the rebellion in Eden that broke the relationship so God had to BUY humans back to himself from the curse brought upon us by Adam.
First of all he claimed ONLY the Israelites as his SPECIAL possession due to the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they were supposed to serve as secondary mediators between Jehovah and the rest of mankind [Zechariah 8:23] while Christ serve as the primary mediator! Revelations 14:1
But the nation kept producing bad fruits [Matthew 21:33-46] God intended given that privilege to another nation that will produce the fruit. That's what brought about the 144,000 chosen from all the earth to serve as spiritual Israelites[Revelations 7:5-8] they're the first set of God's children and who ever wants God to view him as a child must acknowledge and hold unto these ones otherwise such a person is ON HIS OWN!
JWs globally have recognised those secondary mediators today so the process of become REAL children of God just like these BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS is gradually working out for them.
So YES we are the one and only group where you can find the REAL children of God in the making!
Any other group definitely don't understand all of these and they will all perish for lacking KNOWLEDGE! Hosea 4:6

In simple answer! NO. Only the 144000 are?

rottennaija:


In simple answer! NO. Only the 144000 are?

Suit yourself!
The answer isn't meant for you Sir, but for all those following this thread so that they can SEE for themselves that mediation between man and God started long ago and there is a primary mediator and secondary mediators.
The primary mediator made this clear when he said he has come not for all the peoples but ONLY for the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEAL! Matthew 15:24
So if the GB of JWs now expatiate on that and you're agitating that they got it wrong, you just need to explain what brought about the figure 144,000 from ISRAEL and why was Jehovah's name plus Jesus' name WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEADS? Rev 7:5-8, 14:1
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

Maximus69:

Suit yourself!
The answer isn't meant for you Sir, but for all those following this thread so that they can SEE for themselves that mediation between man and God started long ago and there is a primary mediator and secondary mediators.
The primary mediator made this clear when he said he has come not for all the peoples but ONLY for the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEAL! Matthew 15:24
So if the GB of JWs now expatiate on that and you're agitating that they got it wrong, you just need to explain what brought about the figure 144,000 from ISRAEL and why was Jehovah's name plus Jesus' name WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEADS? Rev 7:5-8, 14:1
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

In that case, it made sense, even a true teaching of the catholics that Saint are intercessor between God and Man... So the catholic had a true teaching.

So Jesus said he came for the lost ship of the house of Israel. Then he also promised that they will become a secondary mediator. Hmmm

So which one is the secondary mediator for? between God and men (or between Jesus and men)

Maximus69:

Suit yourself!
The answer isn't meant for you Sir, but for all those following this thread so that they can SEE for themselves that mediation between man and God started long ago and there is a primary mediator and secondary mediators.
The primary mediator made this clear when he said he has come not for all the peoples but ONLY for the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEAL! Matthew 15:24
So if the GB of JWs now expatiate on that and you're agitating that they got it wrong, you just need to explain what brought about the figure 144,000 from ISRAEL and why was Jehovah's name plus Jesus' name WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEADS? Rev 7:5-8, 14:1
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

So Jehovah's Witnesses are not God's children in the true sense of the word?

rottennaija:


In that case, it made sense, even a true teaching of the catholics that Saint are intercessor between God and Man... So the catholic had a true teaching.

So Jesus said he came for the lost ship of the house of Israel. Then he also promised that they will become a secondary mediator. Hmmm

So which one is the secondary mediator for? between God and men (or between Jesus and men)

Jesus mediates between God and the lost sheep of the house of Israel [144,000]
144,000 mediates between God and the rest of mankind!
If the primary mediator [Jesus] was not laid as the foundation,then the secondary mediators have nothing to build upon! Ephesians 2:20 Revelation 21:14
But whoever shuns the secondary mediators can never find favour in the face of the primary mediator! Matthew 25: 31-46
So be warned!
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

rottennaija:


So Jehovah's Witnesses are not God's children in the true sense of the word?

@ Romans 3:23 Apostle Paul wrote 'for ALL have sinned and fall short of God's glory'
Meaning NO human has the right to relate to God as his child! But Jesus opened the way and there are prerequisites of attaining that goal, you dare not shun that UNDESERVED kindness of God by thinking you can jump the protocols!
Salvation is from Jehovah throught Jesus through 144,000 to all mankind, there is NO other way or shortcut to gain Jehovah's approval!

Maximus69:

@ Romans 3:23 Apostle Paul wrote 'for ALL have sinned and fall short of God's glory'
Meaning NO human has the right to relate to God as his child! But Jesus opened the way and there are prerequisites of attaining that goal, you dare not shun that UNDESERVED kindness of God by thinking you can jump the protocols!
Salvation is from Jehovah throught Jesus through 144,000 to all mankind, there is NO other way or shortcut to gain Jehovah's approval!

Is the protocol as you have listed?
Jehovah to Jesus to 144000 to all mankind?
Which scriptures support this protocol?

So, following this protocol, all mankind can also be asking for forgiveness in the name of the 144000 mediator, you know, like praying through Mary. Infact, we can have faith in these 144000 for salvation na for salvation.... Don't you think so?