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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by barackodam: 1:50pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:

The Real Logic.
-------------------
the set rules are
rule 1. professor hulk said: if you go back to the past, the past becomes your future, and your present becomes your past.
rule 2. In hulk conversation the acient one, she said The Infinity stones create what you experience as the flow of time. Remove one stone and that flow splits. Now, this may benefit your reality "but my new one" (note this please), not so much. In this new branched reality, without our chief weapon against the forces of darkness, our world will be over run. Millions will suffer. So, tell me Doctor, can your science prevent all that?then
hulk said No, but we can erase it. Because once we are done with the stones, we can return each one to "it's own time line"(note this please) at the moment it was taken. So, chronologically, "in that reality, they never left"
Now if you read the rules carefully you see that when the stones were removed a new reality is formed. So in 2012 hulk collected the time stone, which means a new reality was formed, captain america in 2012 collected the mind stone, a new reality was formed. captain america and iron man collected the space stone a new reality was formed, when the power, soul, power stones were taken new realities were formed.
Now in 2014, future nebula connected to the framework as explained by ebony so thanos of 2014 of another reality saw what happened in the future through the past nebula. then the 2014 nebula of another reality followed the 2023(endgame) avengers back to 2023 in the main MCU timeline (the one from 2008 we all know). then nebula brought the 2014 thanos of another reality to 2023 in Main MCU to fight the avengers.
Dont forget hulk has snapped everybody back to reality using the stones from the Main MCU.
So the thanos snapped out of reality is the one from 2014 of another reality. so when captain america went back in time at the end to return all the stones, those realities were erased out of existence.




Absolutely spot on. I understand now. Yet again. I bow
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 1:55pm On May 02, 2019
barackodam:



Absolutely spot on. I understand now. Yet again. I bow
thanks for your understanding grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by oluwaveeboy(m): 2:00pm On May 02, 2019
cheesy

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:03pm On May 02, 2019
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:06pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:

The Real Logic.
-------------------
the set rules are
rule 1. professor hulk said: if you go back to the past, the past becomes your future, and your present becomes your past.
rule 2. In hulk conversation the acient one, she said The Infinity stones create what you experience as the flow of time. Remove one stone and that flow splits. Now, this may benefit your reality "but my new one" (note this please), not so much. In this new branched reality, without our chief weapon against the forces of darkness, our world will be over run. Millions will suffer. So, tell me Doctor, can your science prevent all that? then
hulk said No, but we can erase it. Because once we are done with the stones, we can return each one to "it's own time line"(note this please) at the moment it was taken. So, chronologically, "in that reality, they never left".
Now if you read the rules carefully you see that when the stones were removed a new reality is formed. So in 2012 hulk collected the time stone, which means a new reality was formed, captain america in 2012 collected the mind stone, a new reality was formed. captain america and iron man collected the space stone a new reality was formed, when the power, soul, power stones were taken new realities were formed.
Now in 2014, future nebula connected to the framework as explained by ebony so thanos of 2014 of another reality saw what happened in the future through the past nebula. then the 2014 nebula of another reality followed the 2023(endgame) avengers back to 2023 in the main MCU timeline (the one from 2008 we all know). then nebula brought the 2014 thanos of another reality to 2023 in Main MCU to fight the avengers.
Dont forget hulk has snapped everybody back to reality using the stones from the Main MCU.
So the thanos snapped out of reality is the one from 2014 of another reality. so when captain america went back in time at the end to return all the stones, those realities were erased out of existence.


Pray tell what did she mean when she said and I quote "you forgot one important thing, in order to return the stones you have to survive, and then hulk said, we will, I will survive, I promise. She then said, I can't risk this reality on a promise"

Doesn't that mean only when the infinity stones aren't returned, then a new reality would be formed?

Also remember that antman took them to the past and by that time nebula and black iron man hadn't collected any infinity stones, so no new reality as been formed.

And then explain to me why Thanos said they were from the future and not another reality?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 2:27pm On May 02, 2019
oluwaveeboy:
cheesy
I prefer a rat to any Marvel character.
Spits angry
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:32pm On May 02, 2019
Raalsalghul:

I prefer a rat to any Marvel character.
Spits angry
raalsalghul grin grin grin damn you are acting exactly like raalsaghul very very stubborn. but you should know that rat has appeared in billion dollars movie. unless like wonderwoman, flash, superman, green lantern, cybory, green arrow grin grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:36pm On May 02, 2019
iuwe:

Pray tell what did she mean when she said and I quote "you forgot one important thing, in order to return the stones you have to survive, and then hulk said, we will, I will survive, I promise. She then said, I can't risk this reality on a promise"
seriously

Doesn't that mean only when the infinity stones aren't returned, then a new reality would be formed?
Seriously

Also remember that antman took them to the past and by that time nebula and black iron man hadn't collected any infinity stones, so no new reality as been formed.
antman was in 2012 and nebula was in 2014 there was in different points on the timeline

And then explain to me why Thanos said they were from the future and not another reality?
SMH.....
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 3:21pm On May 02, 2019
barackodam:
Let us be honest with ourselves. Endgame was mad. Was awesome. Was orgasmic. Yes, we know.

But the time travel arc is just not it.

Yes, no one bad ever time traveled before to know the standard, and as such, the rule is whatever the writer says it is.

Now, according to Endgame, if if you go back to the past, the past becomes your future, and your present becomes your past.

Okay, that's quite understandable to an extent.

But, but, but. Nebula killed her past self and the present nebula didn't even feel it. I mean. Come on. Even if we're to abandon our past time travel movies knowledge, there's something called Logic naa.

I don't even have problem with Nebula fighting herself, and Cap fighting himself and paradox not occurring. I don't have a prob with that.

But 2014 Thanos came to 2023 and died there. Meaning the 2018 Thanos never found the infinity stones, size never snapped his finger and they never had to go back in time to look for the infinity stones.


That, is logic. If you kill your past, the present immediately cease to exist.

The Russo bros have the right to write their arc however they seem it fit, but, thanos and Nebula's past just weren't supposed to die.

Nope. Defies logic.


Them just wan confuse us to sell their market nii.


I trust them to explain it, like they always do, I'd be waiting.
this was exactly what I have been saying. Thanos from the past abandoned his quest and came to the future. Which means infinity war didn't happen again. Or it happened and then he came from the past. Lol
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 3:42pm On May 02, 2019
oluwaveeboy:
cheesy

Antman
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 3:47pm On May 02, 2019
You guys are still on this time travel buisness grin none of your explanations can ever cover all the logical questions and plot holes that has developed from the storyline cos its fvcking time travel....

Just think about thor sleek bullying quill on his own spaceship and be free of the time travel head scratchers grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 3:50pm On May 02, 2019
Arsenal247:
plz guy, where can I download avengers endgame? I need good pic quality, not cam rip that will be blur.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 4:27pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:
seriously
Is that an answer?

hulk616:
Seriously
Comment please

hulk616:
antman was in 2012 and nebula was in 2014 there was in different points on the timeline
But they arrived at the same time didn't they?

hulk616:
SMH.....
Typical of you undecided
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 4:45pm On May 02, 2019
iuwe:

Is that an answer?

Comment please

But they arrived at the same time didn't they?

Typical of you undecided
all the questions you asked i answered it in my post and even previous posts but you are still asking.
how do you expect thanos to know nebula is from the future from another dimension. thats why i have been shouting "Parallel f******g Reality"
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 4:47pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:
all the questions you asked i answered it in my post and even previous posts but you are still asking.
how do you expect thanos to know nebula is from the future from another dimension. thats why i have been shouting "Parallel f******g Reality"
That your reason is unconvincing
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 4:49pm On May 02, 2019
pu7pl3:
You guys are still on this time travel buisness grin none of your explanations can ever cover all the logical questions and plot holes that has developed from the storyline cos its fvcking time travel....

Just think about thor sleek bullying quill on his own spaceship and be free of the time travel head scratchers grin
time travel is the signal flow graph in control engineering. grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 4:54pm On May 02, 2019
iuwe:

That your reason is unconvincing
you are just refusing to think deep. i gave you the two rules set for time travel in the movie. use it!!!!!
i understand why DCEU is a failure, DC and their fans cant use what God has given them. grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 5:02pm On May 02, 2019
Spider-Man Far From Home likely to be heading our way May 6

MJBOLT
Hulk616

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 5:05pm On May 02, 2019
Vic2Ree:
Spider-Man Far From Home likely to be heading our way May 6

MJBOLT
Hulk616
marvel want to kill me with awsomeness grin grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 5:21pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:
marvel want to kill me with awsomeness grin grin grin
LoL! Just the trailer tho, so simmer down grin grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 6:05pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:

you are just refusing to think deep. i gave you the two rules set for time travel in the movie. use it!!!!!
i understand why DCEU is a failure, DC and their fans cant use what God has given them. grin
When there is already a good time travel, the best among the rest.

FLASHPOINT

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 6:05pm On May 02, 2019
Vic2Ree:
Spider-Man Far From Home likely to be heading our way May 6

MJBOLT
Hulk616
wasn't it June again?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by pu7pl3(m): 6:38pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:
time travel is the signal flow graph in control engineering. grin

Lmao....what the hell is control engineering?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 7:56pm On May 02, 2019
waywardpikin:


Since you already have an understanding what's going on, why not watch it already and spare yourself the torture? cheesy
I might have to one of these days.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:02pm On May 02, 2019
waywardpikin:


I never wanna see Banner again. That guy is not the Hulk. Check out the raw animality of IH in 2008's Incredible Hulk. That final fight with Hulk and Abomination.

Never been a fan of Antman, I thought Antman and the Wasp was a shìtty movie. Like just another episode of Spider-Man on Cadburys breakfast television in the 90s.

But Thor.... THOR!!!

I need more of that, no question.

The issue I have with hulk is that, marvel can't let us see the true awesomeness of hulk. The hulk in the comic is far better than the hulk in the movies. It would cost too much to produce such a movie. So they have to power him down. Even when hulk defeated abomination, it was just a regular scene to me.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by stapes(m): 8:35pm On May 02, 2019
hulk616:

The Real Logic.
-------------------
the set rules are
rule 1. professor hulk said: if you go back to the past, the past becomes your future, and your present becomes your past.
rule 2. In hulk conversation the acient one, she said The Infinity stones create what you experience as the flow of time. Remove one stone and that flow splits. Now, this may benefit your reality "but my new one" (note this please), not so much. In this new branched reality, without our chief weapon against the forces of darkness, our world will be over run. Millions will suffer. So, tell me Doctor, can your science prevent all that? then
hulk said No, but we can erase it. Because once we are done with the stones, we can return each one to "it's own time line"(note this please) at the moment it was taken. So, chronologically, "in that reality, they never left".
Now if you read the rules carefully you see that when the stones were removed a new reality is formed. So in 2012 hulk collected the time stone, which means a new reality was formed, captain america in 2012 collected the mind stone, a new reality was formed. captain america and iron man collected the space stone a new reality was formed, when the power, soul, power stones were taken new realities were formed.
Now in 2014, future nebula connected to the framework as explained by ebony so thanos of 2014 of another reality saw what happened in the future through the past nebula. then the 2014 nebula of another reality followed the 2023(endgame) avengers back to 2023 in the main MCU timeline (the one from 2008 we all know). then nebula brought the 2014 thanos of another reality to 2023 in Main MCU to fight the avengers.
Dont forget hulk has snapped everybody back to reality using the stones from the Main MCU.
So the thanos snapped out of reality is the one from 2014 of another reality. so when captain america went back in time at the end to return all the stones, those realities were erased out of existence.



spot on, thumbs up man
@iuwe, the first thing EG time travel have that is different from that of Flashpoint is the "cemented history."
look at it this way, the moment the hulk interrupted the Ancient one action,(i.e her dismantling chitauris) and then started conversing, the history branched and is no longer the MCU history and also the moment captain got the scepter from the agents another history starts off from that point on, bearing in mind that the original cemented MCU history is also running,now we have multiple 2014 which would all be erased when cap returns the stones.


my only ish, which I can consider plot hole is the old cap appearance in 2023 cuz I don't still understand that part but considering they want to end Chris role I forgive them.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:43pm On May 02, 2019
stapes:


spot on, thumbs up man
@iuwe, the first thing EG time travel have that is different from that of Flashpoint is the "cemented history."
look at it this way, the moment the hulk interrupted the Ancient one action,(i.e her dismantling chitauris) and then started conversing, the history branched and is no longer the MCU history and also the moment captain got the scepter from the agents another history starts off from that point on, bearing in mind that the original cemented MCU history is also running,now we have multiple 2014 which would all be erased when cap returns the stones.


my only ish, which I can consider plot hole is the old cap appearance in 2023 cuz I don't still understand that part but considering they want to end Chris role I forgive them.

thank you.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:33pm On May 02, 2019
stapes:


spot on, thumbs up man
@iuwe, the first thing EG time travel have that is different from that of Flashpoint is the "cemented history."
look at it this way, the moment the hulk interrupted the Ancient one action,(i.e her dismantling chitauris) and then started conversing, the history branched and is no longer the MCU history and also the moment captain got the scepter from the agents another history starts off from that point on, bearing in mind that the original cemented MCU history is also running,now we have multiple 2014 which would all be erased when cap returns the stones.


my only ish, which I can consider plot hole is the old cap appearance in 2023 cuz I don't still understand that part but considering they want to end Chris role I forgive them.

How does one history that is not connected to the original MCU history affect the other? That doesn't make any sense to me.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by stapes(m): 9:47pm On May 02, 2019
iuwe:

How does one history that is not connected to the original MCU history affect the other? That doesn't make any sense to me.

that's exactly where you are confusing it,it doesn't "AFFECT" the original MCU
I only used the word "History" you might call it another REALITY, another EVENT or another TIMELINE.

nothing affects the original MCU history, but it's connected by the characters going back in time.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by nani6666: 9:52pm On May 02, 2019
Toughest decision the writers had to make in End Game >>>>>>> when the Sorcerer Supreme Tai Chi'd the Hulk, whose Spirit should come out.... Hulk or Banner... Or Both

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:57pm On May 02, 2019
nani6666:
Toughest decision the writers had to make in End Game >>>>>>> when the Sorcerer Supreme Tai Chi'd the Hulk, whose Spirit should come out.... Hulk or Banner... Or Both
banner
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:58pm On May 02, 2019
iuwe:

How does one history that is not connected to the original MCU history affect the other? That doesn't make any sense to me.
SMH

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