tactius:


5. Nigerians should pay their bills, and should pay appropriate bills. Government should stop this subsidy of power...or investors won't come.

That is not the problem. If Discos supplied prepaid meters would anyone be owning them?

Discos make more money from ESTIMATED BILLING than normal billing

shadeyinka:

It's far much more simpler than that:
1. The problem of Nigeria's electricity is Generation:
We need 16GWatt of electricity and we are not even generating 4GWatt.
2. Let ordinary Nigerians be able to sell electricity to the public utility using a special electricity meter from solar.
3. Enforce the use of prepaid meter by All
4. Indigenous technology for generating and maintenance of turbines and alternators is a must.

But there's a far worse rot in distribution than in generation. If the GENCOs were doing well and generating funds to pay the GENCOs for power generated, the GENCOs would have been able to turn more turbines on, service idle ones and even build new plants.

Where is SAN Fashola?

shadeyinka:

That is not the problem. If Discos supplied prepaid meters would anyone be owning them?

Discos make more money from ESTIMATED BILLING than normal billing

Because they are owed about one trillion, and have poor bill compliance rate (in some areas, as much as 52% of people don't pay).

Of course, refusal to meter customers is also just basically shooting themselves in the foot. They should. Still...some people bypass the meters self.

obailala:
If we scrap the national grid, do you know how much it will cost to rewire the entire nation?... If I'm not mistaken, scraping the national grid would entail disconnecting several states from power supply.

Why is no power generated in those states?

tactius:


What Senator doesn't tell you is that power is subsidised, that many government agencies and Nigerians don't pay their bills, and that the amount needed to fix the thing is very very high.

Infact, the problem is, we are not paying our DISCOS well enough. No, I am not being sarcastic.

Because we don't pay DISCOS well enough...and DISCO's contribute to the problem / shoot themselves in the leg by not metering everyone...there is no money to invest in new infrastructure, and to replace old ones.

We privatized GSM...but we did not subsidise GSM prices, we allowed them charge as much as they wanted...and in the process they MADE a profit that was reinvested in Nigeria to make more profit.

Meanwhile...DISCOS are forced to charge 30% of the costs of production, the government is having trobule paying up the 70%, DISCOS are not allowed to compete across territories (the same issue that brought down many CDMA operators over 10 years ago), and DISCOS are so short of cash that they cannot pay GENCOS the money they need.

Infact, power supply is very difficult. Fashola thought is was easy. It isn't.

Ill conclude by quoting this Niaralander who has a good explanation why

With due respect I beg to disagree with you.

The problem is the corruption between the FG and the DISCOS. There is no single government agency that will be connected through the PREPAID meter that will owe a single kobo. So whose fault if prepaid meter is not given?

The discos! But because they make far much more running with estimated billing system, the discos themselves prefer status quo.

By the way: how is the FG subsidizing consumer electricity: for it isn't in our budget. FG pay for some of the machineries used for generation and transmission of electricity at the national level BUT not at the consumption level.

And no one has done an objective calculation of how much it cost to generate a watt of electricity. The so called 30% cost is a scam by those who intend to make exorbitant profit from electricity business

mmsen:


Why is no power generated in those states?

But power cannot be generated everywhere; we aren't talking of 'I pass my neighbour generators' here you know.

obailala:
But power cannot be generated everywhere; we aren't talking of 'I pass my neighbour generators' here you know.

Every state may not but every region has some form of capability.

tactius:


Because they are owed about one trillion, and have poor bill compliance rate (in some areas, as much as 52% of people don't pay).

Of course, refusal to meter customers is also just basically shooting themselves in the foot. They should. Still...some people bypass the meters self.

If you are the owner of any of the discos, would you sit down lamenting or going out to do what should solve the problem?

Discos make money from estimated billing system: hence they prefer the status quo! Like I said, is it possible for one to owe the GSM companies who ever you are? No!

Why? They all use a prepaid system. Just tell us that the discos management are dull or 419 churning out excuses

NotBeenPaid:

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26hrs now makes a day! Lol

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SARCASM is lost on you..

obailala:
But there's a far worse rot in distribution than in generation. If the GENCOs were doing well and generating funds to pay the GENCOs for power generated, the GENCOs would have been able to turn more turbines on, service idle ones and even build new plants.

But the problem is caused by the FG.

If Buhari should announce tomorrow that by 1st June 2019 no one should pay and neither disconnected from power line of they have not been issued a PREPAID meter: watch how they will all sit up and get things in order

There is a conspiracy between some people in Government and the Discos to keep things as it is.

Don't forget that a few years ago, their excuse of privatising NEPA was that from their feasibility studies ALL our electricity problems would be over immediately they sell our national asset to a few Nigerians who had stolen our money through politics

Exponental:
Steps to boost electricity in Nigeria:
1. Improve Security to entice investors
2. Create a soft landing terms to facilitate investors/national motives.
3. Break the monopoly of gencos and discos.
4. Bring in investors, of cos, the market is available.


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In summary, we need more gencos. At least, one per each local government.

Why haven’t we gone nuclear? It’s not like we can’t afford it.

[color=#770077][/color]see below

This light matter, na Only God fit come down come solve am because no president seem to have a plan on this matter.

He shuu keeep kwayyet!

obailala:
If we scrap the national grid, do you know how much it will cost to rewire the entire nation?... If I'm not mistaken, scraping the national grid would entail disconnecting several states from power supply.

Every state has its own distribution grid, the national grid feeds these distribution grid. Imagine every state generating its own electricity or a Geopolitical zone generating and transmiting her own electricity, we would have eliminated multiple points of failure which seems to be one of the bottle necks in the national grid. Many industries and churches are already doing it in Lagos , they have their own gas turbine, they generate and even sell to neighboring community.

you guy have been talking almost on every issue of how govt shall be doing but you haven't yet talk on how govt shall reduce senators,reps and ministers allowances so that the money can be used to reduce the number of jobless nigerians.

Especially BMCs like Sirjamo, , Deomelo, Midolian and Ngene.

They are the biggest fabricators and generators of lies on Nairaland and mods will leave them alone to be spreading their lies.

Nbote:
But d govt and its supporters have been claiming Power has improved ever since dis govt came in.. Jus open a thread now now to ask of power situation in areas and U'll see dem com in to claim d Nation now enjoys 26hrs of light daily

tactius:


What Senator doesn't tell you is that power is subsidised, that many government agencies and Nigerians don't pay their bills, and that the amount needed to fix the thing is very very high.

Infact, the problem is, we are not paying our DISCOS well enough. No, I am not being sarcastic.

Because we don't pay DISCOS well enough...and DISCO's contribute to the problem / shoot themselves in the leg by not metering everyone...there is no money to invest in new infrastructure, and to replace old ones.

We privatized GSM...but we did not subsidise GSM prices, we allowed them charge as much as they wanted...and in the process they MADE a profit that was reinvested in Nigeria to make more profit.

Meanwhile...DISCOS are forced to charge 30% of the costs of production, the government is having trobule paying up the 70%, DISCOS are not allowed to compete across territories (the same issue that brought down many CDMA operators over 10 years ago), and DISCOS are so short of cash that they cannot pay GENCOS the money they need.

Infact, power supply is very difficult. Fashola thought is was easy. It isn't.

Ill conclude by quoting this Niaralander who has a good explanation why

Can you explain the bolded text

gabicon:


Every state has its own distribution grid, the national grid feeds these distribution grid. Imagine every state generating its own electricity or a Geopolitical zone generating and transmiting her own electricity, we would have eliminated multiple points of failure which seems to be one of the bottle necks in the national grid. Many industries and churches are already doing it in Lagos , they have their own gas turbine, they generate and even sell to neighboring community.

Which church does that if I may ask?

shadeyinka:

But the problem is caused by the FG.

If Buhari should announce tomorrow that by 1st June 2019 no one should pay and neither disconnected from power line of they have not been issued a PREPAID meter: watch how they will all sit up and get things in order

There is a conspiracy between some people in Government and the Discos to keep things as it is.

Don't forget that a few years ago, their excuse of privatising NEPA was that from their feasibility studies ALL our electricity problems would be over immediately they sell our national asset to a few Nigerians who had stolen our money through politics

So what is the way forward?

OkunrinOloro:
Especially BMCs like Sirjamo, , Deomelo, Midolian and Ngene.

They are the biggest fabricators and generators of lies on Nairaland and mods will leave them alone to be spreading their lies.

Guy, abeg stop calling me out. I never told you that power was good all over Nigeria. I specifically made reference to Yobe and I dare you to prove me wrong, otherwise, stop displaying your ignorance to over two million Nairalanders please.

Dailyhappenings:
Senator Shehu Sani has called to the attention of the Government concerning the light distribution in the country.

See what he wrote...

"They used to say when NEPA/PHCN is privatized,electricity will be available like the http://GSM. Now they say Generation & transmission is not the problem but distribution."

Source: https://www.musictori.com/2019/05/senator-shehu-sani-calls-out-government.html

tweeting is not calling out
He tweeted
He did not call anybody out
Useless senator
And to think I put hope in him
After all these years
Just wasted a golden opportunity

mmsen:


Every state may not but every region has some form of capability.

Ahaa.. there you go! Returning to a centralised grid again.

gabicon:


Every state has its own distribution grid, the national grid feeds these distribution grid. Imagine every state generating its own electricity or a Geopolitical zone generating and transmiting her own electricity, we would have eliminated multiple points of failure which seems to be one of the bottle necks in the national grid. Many industries and churches are already doing it in Lagos , they have their own gas turbine, they generate and even sell to neighboring community.

Hmm... are you sure of the bolded statement above? Are you sure states currently have a mini grid (outside the national grid) that can transmit power around the state if thry were to be disconnected ftom the national grid?

If Delta state for instance is disconnected totally from the national grid, are you sure the power generated at Ughelli can be transmitter to Asaba without touching the national grid?... I dont think so.

I have not seen NEPA light abi PHCN in the past 17 days, even if it's One Hour. Visited their office 3 times, made several calls.

Neal.

Oshiomhole, Minister of Darkness Fashola and Una illiterate Oga, God will punish all of you.

God will punish more anyone who voted an illiterate to lead Nigerians.

shadeyinka:

But the problem is caused by the FG.

If Buhari should announce tomorrow that by 1st June 2019 no one should pay and neither disconnected from power line of they have not been issued a PREPAID meter: watch how they will all sit up and get things in order

There is a conspiracy between some people in Government and the Discos to keep things as it is.

Don't forget that a few years ago, their excuse of privatising NEPA was that from their feasibility studies ALL our electricity problems would be over immediately they sell our national asset to a few Nigerians who had stolen our money through politics

The problem goes beyond just the prepaid meters. Everyone getting a prepaid meter would force the DISCOs to sit up but that's not really where the problem ends.

Laws still need to be amended to permit every Tom Dick and Harry generate and sell power. Currently we're told this is the case, that things have now been liberalised and that individuals can generate and sell but that is not completely true. The DISCOs still exist as large monopolies who already own all the areas. I understand that as an individual who owns a large turbine in a place like Ikeja for instance, even though the current law states that you can sell your excess power to neighbours, the what they did not tell you is that you must get permission from IKDC before you can takeover any of their existing customers, and IKDC will never grant you that permission. This problem has to be solved by the National Assembly.

asuustrike1:

Can you explain the bolded text

Using Lagos as an example, Lagos is controlled by two powerful monopolies; Ikeja distribution company (mainland) and Eko distribution company (island). As an electricity consumer living in the mainland for example, no matter how messed up you think IKDC are treating you, you cannot decide to leave them and join EDC because IKDC is the sole license owner in the mainland so you are stuck with them no matter their performance.

It's just like saying you must use MTN because of your house address. Irrespective of how bad the mtn network and services are, you have no right to use another sim card due to you home location.