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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:30pm On May 05, 2019
Humility017:


nobody accused him of that one pls...stop trying to run away from the issue...

how Did players like Reuben and Uchebo made that team..?

how did Agbim.and those home based defenders made that team....?

Oh, you did not know Keshi's AFCON squad was heavily criticised before the tournament as Keshi going with substandard players. No wonder you were arguing. Omeruo was literally an amateur before the competition.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:30pm On May 05, 2019
tbaba1234:


I am telling you that Siasia is not clean.. Even with his ability and laurels.

But you want me to believe Rohr is the best thing since Tom tom even after openly defending corruption.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:31pm On May 05, 2019
Where are the likes of odunlami, egwuekwe, Gabriel, Uchebo, nwofor and co? Abi dem no follow be keshi boys?
TheGoodJoe:


Another player Keshi was accused of collecting egunge that delivered.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:31pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Echiejile kept leaving gaps during play and causing us problems, does that mean coaches collected bribe to play him. As I said, because you do not like a player's quality does not mean he got in through bribe.

He might have a quality you underestimate the coach sees and you do not. That can never be a proof of bribe.

If Dickson Nwakeme had paid the money you would have said this sh1t about him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:32pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Oh, you did not know Keshi's AFCON squad was heavily criticised before the tournament as Keshi going with substandard players. No wonder you were arguing. Omeruo was literally an amateur before the competition.

a player that played in the dutch league an amateur?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:32pm On May 05, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Where are the likes of odunlami, egwuekwe, Gabriel, Uchebo, nwofor and co? Abi dem no follow be keshi boys?

Where are the likes of Osaze and Yakubu?

Time changes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:36pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:


If Dickson Nwakeme had paid the money you would have said this sh1t about him

I tell you...he was one of this berating the NFF to employ sanusi prior the recruitment of rohr...

after he managed the two wins against lowly Luxembourg and Mali...he was always saying the NFF should employ him.instead..
and the man...the wins entered his head... he began to press button for the super eagles job...left to pinnick he would have love to do away with him but fear and the likely consequences moreover he had the sport minister to contend with...he made him the super eagles chief coach and Rohr as the technical adviser

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:36pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:


If Dickson Nwakeme had paid the money you would have said this sh1t about him

He would never have made the squad. I just do not buy that story. Who would Siasia has dropped for him? We are talking Olympics here. We had top players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:37pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


But you want me to believe Rohr is the best thing since Tom tom even after openly defending corruption.

I have not said anything about Rohr..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:37pm On May 05, 2019
Humility017:


I tell you...he was one of this berating the NFF to employ sanusi prior the recruitment of rohr...

after he managed the two wins against lowly Luxembourg and Mali...he was always saying the NFF should employ him.instead..
and the man...the wins entered his head... he began to press button for the super eagles job...left to pinnick he would have love to do away with him but fear and the likely consequences moreover he had the sport minister to contend with...he made him the super eagles chief coach and Rohr as the technical adviser

Pressing for the job is no where wrong. I have no doubt if Siasia was giving time, he would have done a better job than Rohr is doing now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:37pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Where are the likes of Osaze and Yakubu?

Time changes.

Lolllllll you're so funny.

please those men you mentioned played football up to their late 30s and they resigned well..



but tell me about your keshi boys pls...
where are they? youcant tell me they're retired in their 20s with no health challenges
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:39pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Pressing for the job is no where wrong. I have no doubt if Siasia was giving time, he would have done a better job than Rohr is doing now.

who would have done better in players selection and scouting abi?

any one who desire the super eagles future will always appreciate Rohr...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:39pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


He would never have made the squad. I just do not buy that story. Who would Siasia has dropped for him? We are talking Olympics here. We had top players.

We're telling you players like Ndifreke and others that made the squad and you're saying 'A coach sees qualities other people dont'

What makes him different from them?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:40pm On May 05, 2019
Humility017:


Lolllllll you're so funny.

please those men you mentioned played football up to their late 30s and they resigned well..



but tell me about your keshi boys pls...
where are they? youcant tell me they're retired in their 20s with no health challenges

They should have played till 40's.

At the time of Keshi, there was a huge gap in talents. Keshi had to make do with heavy scouting and brilliant invention to keep us flying.

With the rise of talents, you can not expect those players to still be in the picture.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:41pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


They should have played till 40's.

At the time of Keshi, there was a huge gap in talents. Keshi had to make do with heavy scouting and brilliant invention to keep us flying.

With the rise of talents, you can not expect those players to still be in the picture.

even with no talents....now.
those guys can't be in the picture...

their money obviously got them there...during Keshi stint and not their talent
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:41pm On May 05, 2019
Humility017:


who would have done better in players selection and scouting abi?

any one who desire the super eagles future will always appreciate Rohr...

I trust Siasia. He was not giving time to deliver. Rohr has been giving enough time and we still do not have good playing style or pattern.

Rohr’s main team is not much different from Salisu's team before his arrival. So his scouting has not been breathtaking.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:43pm On May 05, 2019
Humility017:


even with no talents....now.
those guys can't be in the picture...

their money obviously got them there...during Keshi stint and not their talent

We have talents now and we did not have talents then. Keshi did a lot of ground work. That was how he landed Aaron Samuel that was out of reach of the eyes of many.

Then he had his way of playing and bringing out the best in them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:44pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I trust Siasia. He was not giving time to deliver. Rohr has been giving enough time and we still do not have good playing style or pattern.

Rohr’s main team is not much different from Salisu's team before his arrival. So his scouting has not been breathtaking.

please let's end this discussion...

the bolded leaves me worried.

those foreign lads we have lured and the scouting so far...have not been breath taking?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:44pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:


We're telling you players like Ndifreke and others that made the squad and you're saying 'A coach sees qualities other people dont'

What makes him different from them?

Who are the others? Na wa.

Tell us how Dickson would have made the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:44pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


They should have played till 40's.

At the time of Keshi, there was a huge gap in talents. Keshi had to make do with heavy scouting and brilliant invention to keep us flying.

With the rise of talents, you can not expect those players to still be in the picture.

You think talents rise out of the blue without preparation and nurturing

Most of the talents now were there during Keshi and Siasia's time but they were prepared to take bribe instead of discovering them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:46pm On May 05, 2019
Humility017:


please let's end this discussion...

the bolded leaves me worried.

those foreign lads we have lured and the scouting so far...have not been breath taking?

Which one, Aina or Ebuehi? Those are not out of the ordinary. The likes of Sone and Hope Akpan played for us too and no one gave anyone thumbs up for that. Balogun was Keshi. Ekong played for Siasia before Rohr. So what has been so breathtaking? Iwobi played for Siasia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:48pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:


You think talents rise out of the blue without preparation and nurturing

Most of the talents now were there during Keshi and Siasia's time but they were prepared to take bribe instead of discovering them

As of 2013- 2015, many of our current players were not in the picture to have a shot on any way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:48pm On May 05, 2019
'Rise of talents' indeed, Rohr went to German second league and brought Jamilu Collins, went to Spanish second league brought Uzoho, brought Idowu from Russia, brought Ajayi from Rotterdam

He played a part in the signing of Samuel Kalu for Bordeaux, he is now negotiating for two German defenders

An armchair analyst will seat and say we have 'rise of talents' the same talents that were there when Nigerian coaches were taking bribes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:50pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


As of 2013- 2015, many of our current players were not in the picture to have a shot on any way.

Do you know how many talents were playing in backwater European leagues and Northern African leagues that were not invited by the bribe taking coaches?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:52pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Who are the others? Na wa.

Tell us how Dickson would have made the team.

If Dickson made the team what would you have said?

'The coaches see qualities other people dont see'
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:52pm On May 05, 2019
zuchyblink:
If NFF replace them with foreign coaches now dem go say we no dey support local coaches.


To rub it in. it's not even as though the local coaches are good. Mediocre bunch!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:52pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:
'Rise of talents' indeed, Rohr went to German second league and brought Jamilu Collins, went to Spanish second league brought Uzoho, brought Idowu from Russia, brought Ajayi from Rotterdam

He played a part in the signing of Samuel Kalu for Bordeaux, he is now negotiating for two German defenders

An armchair analyst will seat and say we have 'rise of talents' the same talents that were there when Nigerian coaches were taking bribes

You that is a desktop analyst, Uzoho got a shot after Pepe Mel gave him a shot in the main team. Not Rohr. Bringing a player from Rotherdam is not what I call breathtaking scouting.

Breathtaking scouting is what Keshi did with the likes of Oboabona and Mba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:54pm On May 05, 2019
Odewingie and yak paid their dues in the super eagles and the European clubs they played with before their retirement and can never be compared to clowns who ur beloved keshi made us believe there were the best we can boast of. How dare u compare yak and Odewingie to keshi's deadwood? cry
TheGoodJoe:


Where are the likes of Osaze and Yakubu?

Time changes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:54pm On May 05, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


You that is a desktop analyst, Uzoho got a shot after Pepe Mel gave him a shot in the main team. Not Rohr. Bringing a player from Rotherdam is not what I call breathtaking scouting.

Breathtaking scouting is what Keshi did with the likes of Oboabona and Mba.

How many matches and years did they play in the SE?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:55pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:


Do you know how many talents were playing in backwater European leagues and Northern African leagues that were not invited by the bribe taking coaches?

List the ones that would have made the list? The talents were not there to harness and coupled with a coach sabotaged by the nff and cash strapped with no pay for months. Keshi was performing miracles while people were criticising. Even Oliseh that was raising his voice, when he sat on the chair screamed. Yet Keshi was delivering and you talk bribery.

You can not be consistent with bribery.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:55pm On May 05, 2019
And where are they now after just 4-5 years? Or are the likes of omeruo Not playing anymore?
TheGoodJoe:


You that is a desktop analyst, Uzoho got a shot after Pepe Mel gave him a shot in the main team. Not Rohr. Bringing a player from Rotherdam is not what I call breathtaking scouting.

Breathtaking scouting is what Keshi did with the likes of Oboabona and Mba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:56pm On May 05, 2019
Earthquake3:


How many matches and years did they play in the SE?

They delivered. That is what mattered. It is not how long but how well.

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