Amujale:


The Mecca story is debunked as a falsity.

Oduduwa hails from within Yorubaland, Nigeria.

When The Emperorsic reigns on the throne, Arabia wasn't even in existence.

These times depict when the only people on the planet are residents of the African continent; blacksic, brown and, or, bronze.

You are right, the King said the same thing

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/akinruntan-i-occupy-oldest-throne-in-yoruba-history-making-me-first-among-equals/amp

TAO11:


Nothing could be more absurd, incoherent and contradictory than the hypothesis that Oduduwa is from Bini land (formerly Igodomigodo land).

The "Oghene N' Uhe" (as the Binis in ancient times articulate "Ooni Ife" ) was considered by the Binis themselves (evidenced by many of their conversations with João Afonso d'Aveiros around 1480) to be suzerain over Bini Kingdom.

The Ooni of Ife was an emperor whose approval must be sought before Benin Kingdom would crown an Oba.

How can such an emperor be descended from a kingdom who accords allegiance to him and his Empire?

It just doesn't add up and there are many more piercing evidence demonstrating that Oduduwa is certainly not from Benin Kingdom even though his Yoruba descendants later gave him admission into the Yoruba pantheon, thus later giving him mythical attributes.

Regarding whether or not Olugbo of Ugbo was the ruler of Ife prior to Oduduwa's ascension from "his country", wherever that is:

Firstly, the submission of modern experts on the subject of whether Oduduwa is alien to Ife is that many "Yorubas" migrated back home to Ife from the North-East of Africa in different waves of home-coming migration.

And that Oduduwa was a leader of one of those waves of home-coming migration of the "Yorubas". We see evidence of this in the fact that Shango-Oba-Koso, born in Ife, once ruled as king over the Nubian Kush kingdom.

Secondly, prior to Oduduwa's coming to Ife, there were already about fifteen different Ilus (or states) in the country called Ile-Ife, each with its Oba (or king). These states which still exists till date with its respective kings are:

Ido
Iloromu
Ideta-Oko
Odun
Iloran
Oke-Oja
Imojubi
Iraye
Ijugbe
Oke-Awo
Iwinrin
Parakin
Omologun
Ilemure (now Obokun)
Ugbo.

It wasn't until the ascension of Oduduwa that all these Ile-Ife kingdom-states became centralized under one political structure with all of the kingdom-states accepting Oduduwa's central political and religious leadership, unlike Agboniregun whose central leadership (prior to Oduduwa) was solely religious.

So, given this background it becomes immediately obvious that the Olugbo of Ugbo's claim that he ruled Ife prior to Oduduwa is just a spin, a twist, and a reshuffling of historical facts.

Olugbo Ugbo never ruled the country called Ife. Instead he controlled only one of its states just as each of the other fourteen state has its independent king and at a time when there wasn't yet a centralized political structure.

[[If you doubt any of the facts I have stated above, please let me know and I will provide you with evidence, proof, and reason.]]

They are just lying and trying to falsify everything as usual, even the Oba never said Oduduwa migrated from Benin

Their claim that Oranmiyan was the son of Oduduwa was even wrong, Oranmiyan was the Grandson of Oduduwa

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/akinruntan-i-occupy-oldest-throne-in-yoruba-history-making-me-first-among-equals/amp

Those scholars who claim Oduduwa came from Mecca have a total disregard for Time, the chronology of The Ages and how they are meant to line up in a kind of perfect harmony.

West Africa predates Asia in years that amount in their thousands upon thousands.

Therefore, the Mecca assertion has no logical basis and as a result is simply implausible.

Let's differentiate rhetorical commentary from true history.

LazyGold:


They are just lying and trying to falsify everything as usual, even the Oba never said Oduduwa migrated from Benin

Their claim that Oranmiyan was the son of Oduduwa was even wrong, Oranmiyan was the Grandson of Oduduwa

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/akinruntan-i-occupy-oldest-throne-in-yoruba-history-making-me-first-among-equals/amp

Precisely, I understand his intellectual escape, however, unity first, intellectual nuance much after.

Unity by all means possible.

LazyGold:


They are just lying and trying to falsify everything as usual, even the Oba never said Oduduwa migrated from Benin

Their claim that Oranmiyan was the son of Oduduwa was even wrong, Oranmiyan was the Grandson of Oduduwa

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/akinruntan-i-occupy-oldest-throne-in-yoruba-history-making-me-first-among-equals/amp

Thank you my brother.

Jonathan, Saraki Others Pay Tribute to Yar'Adua


Former president, Goodluck Jonathan, Senate President, Bukola Saraki and other Nigerians has taken to their Twitter handle to pay tribute to Yar'Adua.

Here are some of the twitts picked by GENIUS GIST are:

@GEJonathan: "On this day nine years ago I lost a friend, colleague, brother, and boss, President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua. He was a selfless leader who placed national interest above personal and ethnic gains."

@bukolasaraki: "Today, I remember the selfless statesman, former President Umaru Musa Yar’adua, who passed on 9-years ago. His legacy of integrity as a great leader will always remain indelible in our hearts. May the mercy of Almighty Allah (SWT) continue to be upon him. Amin."

Read More: http://www.geniusgist.com/2019/05/jonathan-saraki-others-pay-tribute-to.html

You are the leader and no one know ur name.

Welldone oo

Money na bastard

aribisala0:


Which history exactly?

The man is telling a bitter truth

There were aboriginal people in so called Yorubaland before Oduduwa arrived very long before he arrived which was only about 1000 years ago

Ifa was there before he arrived
The language was there before he arrived
Kaaro Ojire was there before he arrived.



The other thing was there is NOTHING like Yorubaland before Nigeria. The people of Ajase(porto Novo) in Benin republic are called Anago

The YORUBA project is the Oyo empire project. The Empire is dead how then can Alaafin be appoint Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland
He is Aare Kakanfo of Oyo .
We must not forget that Oyo NEVER subdued ALL of Yorubaland when it was at its peak.
The Ijebu are not part of Oyo Empire

Yes for the purpose of Nigeria we must unite but not when it means restarting an Oyo Empire by stealth.

The Other Nations in the region do not recognize any natural supremacy of Oyo trying to assert this is like Britain trying to dominate the USA today

From the look of things, you have provided clarity to all these argument going on. I love people like you who inspite of everything will be firm on saying the bitter truth though people like you may not be porpular because it goes against the original believe.

aribisala0:


Which history exactly?

The man is telling a bitter truth

There were aboriginal people in so called Yorubaland before Oduduwa arrived very long before he arrived which was only about 1000 years ago

Ifa was there before he arrived
The language was there before he arrived
Kaaro Ojire was there before he arrived.



The other thing was there is NOTHING like Yorubaland before Nigeria. The people of Ajase(porto Novo) in Benin republic are called Anago

The YORUBA project is the Oyo empire project. The Empire is dead how then can Alaafin be appoint Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland
He is Aare Kakanfo of Oyo .
We must not forget that Oyo NEVER subdued ALL of Yorubaland when it was at its peak.
The Ijebu are not part of Oyo Empire

Yes for the purpose of Nigeria we must unite but not when it means restarting an Oyo Empire by stealth.

The Other Nations in the region do not recognize any natural supremacy of Oyo trying to assert this is like Britain trying to dominate the USA today

The only bit of truth in Akinruntan's narrative is that Aare Ona Kakanfo is an Oyo title, it was never a pan-Yoruba title, whatever the word 'Yoruba' actually means.

Akinruntan has no historical basis to his claim that his ancestors were kings in Ile-Ife. Fine they were aboriginals, but so were the people Oduduwa met at the site of ancient Ife.

I like him though, for the fact that he's probably the only Oba in Yoruba land bold enough to claim a genealogy separate from the old Oduduwa lineage. We all know that the language, the people, their tradition and their gods existed way before Oduduwa popped up at Ife and told them that bullshīt story about himself falling from the sky.

All this episode early in the morning cuz of some selfish obas who add no value to my life.

IS Benin A YORUBA NATION
THE LIST OF 54 OBAS WHO ARE ENTITLED TO WEAR CROWNS IN YORUBA LAND COMPILED IN 1931.
The 1931 list of the 54 Obas is reproduced exactly as published in the Nigerian Tribune of 6 April, 1987 as follows:
1.Oni of Ife.
2. Olowu - Abeokuta.
3. Alaafin – Oyo.
4. Oba Ado – Ado-Benin.
5. Ore Otun – Ottun.
6. Orangun – Ila.
7. Awujale – Ode.
8. Ajero – Ijero.
9. Olojudo – Ido Ogundaru.
10. Ilara – Ara.
11. Elekole – Ikole.
12. Owa –Ijesa.
13. Oloye - Oye
14. Alake – Abeokuta.
15. Ewi – Ado.
16. Alaye – Efon.
17. Ologotun.
18. Akarigbo – Shagamu.
19. Oloyi Ife – Oyi Ife (Jebba).
20. Agura – Abeokuta.
21. Ogoga – Ikere.
22. Oshemowe – Ondo.
23. Oshile – Abeokuta.
24. Elemure –Emure.
25. Onigbajo – Igbajo.
26. Olowo Oko – Owo.
27. Olowo Ile – Owo.
28. Ewusi – Shagamu (Onimakun)
29. Onise – Ise.
30. Olojudo – Ido Efon.
31. Owa Idanre.
32. Alajogun – Ajase.
33. Oba Dada – Dahomey.
34. Onibara – Abeokuta.
35. Onire – Ire ti Oye.
36. Oloton – oton Koro.
37. Owa Igbara – Igbara
38. Olojudo – Ido Oshun.
39. Oniseri – Iseri.
40. Oloja Oke – Imesi I.
41. Oloja Oke – Imesi II.
42. Ologere – Ogere.
43. Olo... – Obagun. ......................
44. Elepe – Shagamu (Alupon).
45. Owalubo – Ubo.
46. Onilawe – Ilawe.
47. Onipokia – Ipokia.
48. Onitede – Tede.
49. Olohan – Ohan (Ara).
50. Alapa – Agbonda.
51. Oloba – Akure.
52. Oniro – Iro.
53. Olota – Otta.
54. Onitori – Itori.
In 1937, the first conference of all Obas of Yorubaland held at Oyo, The Ooni of Ife presided. In 1938, the second conference was held at Ife, the Ooni of Ife presided. In 1939, the conference was held in Ibadan, the Ooni of Ife presided.
In 1940, the conference of Yoruba Obas was held at Abeokuta, the Ooni of Ife presided. In 1941, the conference was held at Ijebu-Ode the Ooni of Ife presided.
In 1942, the conference was held at Benin City the Ooni of Ife presided. It was the custom at the conference for the Ooni of Ife to sit in the east and the other Obas on his right and left. The governor sat in the west with members of his staff, the governor would depart with his entourage and the Ooni would take control. The Royal dynasty of Yorubaland extends to Benin Republic, Warri and other parts of the world such as the Akoos, of Sierra Leone and the Bahians of Brazil. In the United States of America, a strong “resorgimento” in African culture and tradition has identified itself with Ife...

TAO11:


Nothing could be more absurd, incoherent and contradictory than the hypothesis that Oduduwa is from Bini land (formerly Igodomigodo land).

The "Oghene N' Uhe" (as the Binis in ancient times articulate "Ooni Ife" ) was considered by the Binis themselves (evidenced by many of their conversations with João Afonso d'Aveiros around 1480) to be suzerain over Bini Kingdom.

The Ooni of Ife was an emperor whose approval must be sought before Benin Kingdom would crown an Oba.

How can such an emperor be descended from a kingdom who accords allegiance to him and his Empire?

It just doesn't add up and there are many more piercing evidence demonstrating that Oduduwa is certainly not from Benin Kingdom even though his Yoruba descendants later gave him admission into the Yoruba pantheon, thus later giving him mythical attributes.

Regarding whether or not Olugbo of Ugbo was the ruler of Ife prior to Oduduwa's ascension from "his country", wherever that is:

Firstly, the submission of modern experts on the subject of whether Oduduwa is alien to Ife is that many "Yorubas" migrated back home to Ife from the North-East of Africa in different waves of home-coming migration.

And that Oduduwa was a leader of one of those waves of home-coming migration of the "Yorubas". We see evidence of this in the fact that Shango-Oba-Koso, born in Ife, once ruled as king over the Nubian Kush kingdom.

Secondly, prior to Oduduwa's coming to Ife, there were already about fifteen different Ilus (or states) in the country called Ile-Ife, each with its Oba (or king). These states which still exists till date with its respective kings are:

Ido
Iloromu
Ideta-Oko
Odun
Iloran
Oke-Oja
Imojubi
Iraye
Ijugbe
Oke-Awo
Iwinrin
Parakin
Omologun
Ilemure (now Obokun)
Ugbo.

It wasn't until the ascension of Oduduwa that all these Ile-Ife kingdom-states became centralized under one political structure with all of the kingdom-states accepting Oduduwa's central political and religious leadership, unlike Agboniregun whose central leadership (prior to Oduduwa) was solely religious.

So, given this background it becomes immediately obvious that the Olugbo of Ugbo's claim that he ruled Ife prior to Oduduwa is just a spin, a twist, and a reshuffling of historical facts.

Olugbo Ugbo never ruled the country called Ife. Instead he controlled only one of its states just as each of the other fourteen state has its independent king and at a time when there wasn't yet a centralized political structure.

[[If you doubt any of the facts I have stated above, please let me know and I will provide you with evidence, proof, and reason.]]

2 corrections: Oduduwa was born, bred in Ilorumu quarters in ile-ife. He never migrated from anywhere whatsoevr. All those myth and falsehoods were islamo-christianic attempts at dominating the history of the Ife pple.
Secondly, Sango ruled only in Oyo-ile. The only place he could have lived apart from Oyo was in Nupeland because his mother was from there.
In addition, the "Yorubas" wherever mentioned in history books were solely the "Oyo" pple. The rest of the south western pple of the present day Nigeria bore there native collective tribe names e.g. Ijebu, ijesa, Ife, egba, ekiti, ibolo etc. Thank you

yuanexchanger:
Funny,am not sure he is even among the top five obas in Nigeria...Check my siggy for shipping from china to Nigeria.

Not in the top 20

immhotep:
Oba of Igboland

cc lzaa adaibeku

This means you accept what Ooni of Ife recently said?

wowcatty:
What’s the noise about? The only one who can crown general Yorubaland title is our paramount ruler and the head of all OBA ALADE, the one and only empirical Oba, Alaafin Oyo, the rest are just mad. This is just the beginning, it will get worse, we didn’t call out Ooni of Ife when he’s doing the same trying to usurp his superior, the Alaafin. Yoruba ti gbe omo oba f’osun and have to bear the consequence.

This is wrong. 'The Source VS The seat of government'. The crown General in Yorubaland is none other than the Ooni. If I know this as a non-Yoruba then you surely need to question the understanding of your own history.

This was the same thing that plunged the late Sijuwade and Aláàfin into a cold war for years.

Anyways, I'm sure the Aláàfin knows that the seat of origin is much more powerful than the seat of government. The Aláàfin bowed to the present Oonirisa in a function sometimes ago and that in itself speaks volume.

thatigboman:
Afonja, argue the point. Did oduduwa meet him in ife of not?

Can they argue with him? the truth is that oduduwa met some people in ile-ife and there people were being ruled by people of ugbo. that is what I know.

God will send shame to u as u r sending shame to Yoruba race. And it will be very soon and irreparable as God liveth.

macIB:


2 corrections: Oduduwa was born, bred in Ilorumu quarters in ile-ife. He never migrated from anywhere whatsoevr. All those myth and falsehoods were islamo-christianic attempts at dominating the history of the Ife pple.
Secondly, Sango ruled only in Oyo-ile. The only place he could have lived apart from Oyo was in Nupeland because his mother was from there.
In addition, the "Yorubas" wherever mentioned in history books were solely the "Oyo" pple. The rest of the south western pple of the present day Nigeria bore there native collective tribe names e.g. Ijebu, ijesa, Ife, egba, ekiti, ibolo etc. Thank you

Thanks for your attempt at correcting me. But it's just amusing to me that you couldn't imagine that I know all of these already. Smiles!

Firstly, nowhere in my comment did I assert that Oduduwa was alien to Ile-Ife, even though you didn't substantiate any of your claims. Please read my comment again and point out where I made such assertion.

Secondly, regarding your claim that Shango ruled ONLY in Oyo-Ile; I could swear that you did not read that anywhere in any history book that Shango DID NOT rule as king over Kush kingdom. I bet that the most you've read in any history book is that he ruled in Oyo-Ile after usurping power from his brother, Ajaka.

Please cite me the history book where you read that Shango did not rule as king over Kush Kingdom

At the moment, it's late night time where I live. I will return later in the morning with evidence, proof, and reason for this foregoing second point by citing hard and concrete evidence from the leading historian and anthropologist in Africa on Africa.

Cc:

Ollaxworld

I have learnt new things.

He should be concerns about turning ugbo into little Europe
Too much money make people misbehave

but oduduwa met him there na....its was his wife that betrayed the oba for her ife people and that's why oba akinruntan brought and erected the image of moremi back to ugbo after merciless beating���

too much money is disturb him.

CONGRATS let do more , it Available , DM or WhatsApp.

yuanexchanger:
Funny,am not sure he is even among the top five obas in Nigeria...Check my siggy for shipping from china to Nigeria.

Obas in Yoruba land, not Nigeria.

Who is the most superior oba of Yoruba land??