Dreambeat:
I doubt if there is anything like superior king in Igbo land

etrouble:
is drunk again.

samuk:


The Oba believes that Oduduwa who was from Benin met his ancestors in Ife. According to him, Oduduwa who is a foreign king in Ife can't be senior to him who was met on the ground. Yoruba history sort of supports the Oba's position because it agrees that Oduduwa was actually from somewhere else and non native, some said from the sky, others said from Saudi Arabia. The Benins believe he was heir to the last Benin Ogiso (king from the Sky), this was what Oduduwa actually told Ife people when he got there, hence the believe by some that he climbed down from the Sky

TAO11:


Nothing could be more absurd, incoherent and contradictory than the hypothesis that Oduduwa is from Bini land (formerly Igodomigodo land).

The "Oghene N' Uhe" (as the Binis in ancient times articulate "Ooni Ife" ) was considered by the Binis themselves (evidenced by many of their conversations with João Afonso d'Aveiros around 1480) to be suzerain over Bini Kingdom.

The Ooni of Ife was an emperor whose approval must be sought before Benin Kingdom would crown an Oba.

How can such an emperor be descended from a kingdom who accords allegiance to him and his Empire?

It just doesn't add up and there are many more piercing evidence demonstrating that Oduduwa is certainly not from Benin Kingdom even though his Yoruba descendants later gave him admission into the Yoruba pantheon, thus later giving him mythical attributes.

Regarding whether or not Olugbo of Ugbo was the ruler of Ife prior to Oduduwa's ascension from "his country", wherever that is:

Firstly, the submission of modern experts on the subject of whether Oduduwa is alien to Ife is that many "Yorubas" migrated back home to Ife from the North-East of Africa in different waves of home-coming migration.

And that Oduduwa was a leader of one of those waves of home-coming migration of the "Yorubas". We see evidence of this in the fact that Shango-Oba-Koso, born in Ife, once ruled as king over the Nubian Kush kingdom.

Secondly, prior to Oduduwa's coming to Ife, there were already about fifteen different Ilus (or states) in the country called Ile-Ife, each with its Oba (or king). These states which still exists till date with its respective kings are:

Ido
Iloromu
Ideta-Oko
Odun
Iloran
Oke-Oja
Imojubi
Iraye
Ijugbe
Oke-Awo
Iwinrin
Parakin
Omologun
Ilemure (now Obokun)
Ugbo.

It wasn't until the ascension of Oduduwa that all these Ile-Ife kingdom-states became centralized under one political structure with all of the kingdom-states accepting Oduduwa's central political and religious leadership, unlike Agboniregun whose central leadership (prior to Oduduwa) was solely religious.

So, given this background it becomes immediately obvious that the Olugbo of Ugbo's claim that he ruled Ife prior to Oduduwa is just a spin, a twist, and a reshuffling of historical facts.

Olugbo Ugbo never ruled the country called Ife. Instead he controlled only one of its states just as each of the other fourteen state has its independent king and at a time when there wasn't yet a centralized political structure.

[[If you doubt any of the facts I have stated above, please let me know and I will provide you with evidence, proof, and reason.]]

forgiveness:



Oduduwa was not from Benin.

oduademonest:


By openly questioning the supremacy of the Ooni, he has given room for rirr-raffs like this guy to distort Yoruba history

xtremeTall:
lol

samuk:


The Oba believes that Oduduwa who was from Benin met his ancestors in Ife. According to him, Oduduwa who is a foreign king in Ife can't be senior to him who was met on the ground. Yoruba history sort of supports the Oba's position because it agrees that Oduduwa was actually from somewhere else and non native, some said from the sky, others said from Saudi Arabia. The Benins believe he was heir to the last Benin Ogiso (king from the Sky), this was what Oduduwa actually told Ife people when he got there, hence the believe by some that he climbed down from the Sky

GidiWoodsMan:


The only bit of truth in Akinruntan's narrative is that Aare Ona Kakanfo is an Oyo title, it was never a pan-Yoruba title, whatever the word 'Yoruba' actually means.

Akinruntan has no historical basis to his claim that his ancestors were kings in Ile-Ife. Fine they were aboriginals, but so were the people Oduduwa met at the site of ancient Ife.

I like him though, for the fact that he's probably the only Oba in Yoruba land bold enough to claim a genealogy separate from the old Oduduwa lineage. We all know that the language, the people, their tradition and their gods existed way before Oduduwa popped up at Ife and told them that bullshīt story about himself falling from the sky.

KingLennon:
See Oba wey mumu

TAO11:


Nothing could be more absurd, incoherent and contradictory than the hypothesis that Oduduwa is from Bini land (formerly Igodomigodo land).

The "Oghene N' Uhe" (as the Binis in ancient times articulate "Ooni Ife" ) was considered by the Binis themselves (evidenced by many of their conversations with João Afonso d'Aveiros around 1480) to be suzerain over Bini Kingdom.

The Ooni of Ife was an emperor whose approval must be sought before Benin Kingdom would crown an Oba.

How can such an emperor be descended from a kingdom who accords allegiance to him and his Empire?

It just doesn't add up and there are many more piercing evidence demonstrating that Oduduwa is certainly not from Benin Kingdom even though his Yoruba descendants later gave him admission into the Yoruba pantheon, thus later giving him mythical attributes.

Regarding whether or not Olugbo of Ugbo was the ruler of Ife prior to Oduduwa's ascension from "his country", wherever that is:

Firstly, the submission of modern experts on the subject of whether Oduduwa is alien to Ife is that many "Yorubas" migrated back home to Ife from the North-East of Africa in different waves of home-coming migration.

And that Oduduwa was a leader of one of those waves of home-coming migration of the "Yorubas". We see evidence of this in the fact that Shango-Oba-Koso, born in Ife, once ruled as king over the Nubian Kush kingdom.

Secondly, prior to Oduduwa's coming to Ife, there were already about fifteen different Ilus (or states) in the country called Ile-Ife, each with its Oba (or king). These states which still exists till date with its respective kings are:

Ido
Iloromu
Ideta-Oko
Odun
Iloran
Oke-Oja
Imojubi
Iraye
Ijugbe
Oke-Awo
Iwinrin
Parakin
Omologun
Ilemure (now Obokun)
Ugbo.

It wasn't until the ascension of Oduduwa that all these Ile-Ife kingdom-states became centralized under one political structure with all of the kingdom-states accepting Oduduwa's central political and religious leadership, unlike Agboniregun whose central leadership (prior to Oduduwa) was solely religious.

So, given this background it becomes immediately obvious that the Olugbo of Ugbo's claim that he ruled Ife prior to Oduduwa is just a spin, a twist, and a reshuffling of historical facts.

Olugbo Ugbo never ruled the country called Ife. Instead he controlled only one of its states just as each of the other fourteen state has its independent king and at a time when there wasn't yet a centralized political structure.

[[If you doubt any of the facts I have stated above, please let me know and I will provide you with evidence, proof, and reason.]]

MyVILLAGEpeople:
I am the leader of all Obas in Yorubaland – Oba Akinruntan


• Aare Gani Adams opens fire: Those who betray Yoruba don’t end well •Ooni’s palace: No comment for now •What happened is aberration — Yoruba Obas Forum


THE Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom in Ondo State, Oba Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan, is a controversial personality.

While the dust of his disagreement with the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi, on the origin of Igbo people from Ile-Ife was yet to settle, his installation of “Yoruba Obas in Diaspora” has ignited another fire.

The three men crowned by Akinruntan are the Oriade of Georgia, Oba Bernard Shola Akinrimisi; the traditional ruler of Yoruba in Liberia, Oba Omobolaji Ogunkoya, Oodua Gbadewolu I, and the traditional ruler of Yoruba in the Republic of Ireland, Oba Saheed Ibrahim Adufe.

At the installation held at his palace in Ugboland, Akinruntan said, “I am ready to crown more kings from the Diaspora as long as I remain the number one king in Yorubaland. I am the custodian of the Yoruba culture.

“I am going to give more Obas in the Diaspora crowns. Many of them will get crowns and staff of office from me and nobody can query me. They know that I’m a special Oba in Yorubaland. My father, Oba Makin Osangangan, is the owner of Ife.

“I am the leader of all Obas in Yorubaland. I speak with thunder in my mouth and I make bold to say so. No one is above me in Yorubaland in as much as it has been accepted that we are from Ife. I am the one that Oduduwa met at Ife.

“I’m going to celebrate 10 years on the throne; people should go and prepare. I don’t want people to wear suit to my coronation anniversary because I’m a Yoruba Oba. The coronation will be a special celebration because I’m preparing for it and people will come from all over the country to celebrate with me”.

Responding on behalf of those installed as monarchs at the occasion, Ogunkoya appealed to the Federal Government to include Diaspora traditional rulers in the scheme of things so as to give them the financial wherewithal and moral rectitude to help their people.

Ogunkoya said, “The challenges in the Diaspora are many, but with our little resources, we will do our best. Meanwhile, one of the things we need to do in the Diaspora is to unite our people and give them a sense of belonging”.

History

While fellow Yoruba Obas chose to ignore Akinruntan on his action and outburst, the Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland, Aare Gani Adams, in a strongly worded statement, questioned Akinruntan’s claim as the number one king in Yorubaland and said, “What arrogance! What impudence! What uncultured remark! On what authority is he crowning Yoruba Obas in the Diaspora? Who told him that nobody can query him?

“He said he remained the number one king in Yorubaland. Which Yoruba history is backing this arrogance?

“What is Akinruntan’s position in Yoruba history? Does he think by parading himself as a rich man, Yoruba will respect him for trying to desecrate the land? Who does he think he is, embarrassing the Yoruba nation at every opportunity?

“Which Northern Emir abuses the Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Kano, Shehu of Borno or Emir of Zazzau? Which Northern Emir distorts the history of the Emirate the way Akinruntan is trying to distort Yoruba history? What exactly is the matter with this featherweight who classifies himself as the best thing to have happened to Yorubaland?

“Does he learn from history at all? What exactly is responsible for this arrogance coming from an Oba who is, traditionally, constitutionally and spiritually, mandated to protect Yorubaland? Does he think this arrogance will take him anywhere?”

The Aare urged South-West governors and other traditional rulers to call the Olugbo to order

He submitted that the monarch is a danger that can destroy “our tradition if something is not done urgently”.

Adams went on, “Oba Akinruntan, installed some characters as Yoruba Obas in the Diaspora in his palace in Ugboland. Such desecration of Yoruba culture and tradition was brought to my attention by one of the persons who called me, who likened the conduct of this monarch to ‘Sigidi’ in Yoruba culture, who, out of nothing to do or sheer pride, said it should be taken to the stream or river.

“Millions of Yoruba were shocked when they heard that Akinruntan, installed so-called Yoruba Obas in the Diaspora in his palace in Ugboland.

“As the Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland, I swore, during my installation in January 2018, to always protect the name and project the image of Yorubaland.

“That is exactly the purpose of my intervention at this moment.

“This impudence is fraudulent; a clear and present danger that can destroy our tradition if something urgent is not done immediately.

“What the Olugbo did, he did it single-handedly, against the wishes of all the Yoruba Obas in Nigeria as a whole.

“If Akinruntan is a student of history, he will know that those who tried to betray the Yoruba race never ended well. Against all known laws and customs of our land, Akinruntan ‘crowned’ three characters living abroad who are not even known by Yoruba living at home and abroad, as traditional rulers. The three ‘chiefs’ have no royalty in their blood.

“As the Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland, I want to tell Akinruntan that he only crowned these characters as chiefs in his domain, not as Yoruba Obas in the Diaspora, because he doesn’t have the power.

“It is fraudulent, it is an affront on our history and we will not allow anybody to distort our history.

“In the same vein, I think all the socio-cultural groups in Yorubaland, including Afenifere, Yoruba Council of Elders, Yoruba Unity Forum and other notable groups in the South-West should raise their voices against such fraud. It is our responsibilities to protect our history, and put our records straight.

“He refers to himself as Chairman, Yoruba Obas Conflict Resolution Committee. Is it not funny that he is the one creating tension in the land with his attention-grabbing publicity stunt?

“I want to tell Akinruntan that nobody can buy the Yoruba, at home and abroad. You cannot gain respect by attacking other Obas, especially those senior to you.

“One of those characters he ‘installed’ as Yoruba Oba in Diaspora, Saheed, hails from Ila-Orangun”.

Warning

Adams issued a warning to scholars encouraging Akinruntan when he said, “More importantly, I will like to tell some of the professors Olugbo is using to desecrate the traditional institutions to desist from such acts as that can later haunt them in the future”.

He added, “Akinruntan, you are climbing the tree higher than the leaves”.

No comment – Ife palace

Contacted to react to the installation of the Obas in Diaspora by the Olugbo, the Chief Press Secretary to the Ooni of lfe, Moses Olaifa, said, “We don’t have any comment on that for now. I don’t have the mandate of Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi to speak on any Oba installing Yoruba traditional rulers outside the country.

“When the appropriate time comes, the palace will react accordingly”.

Aberration

However, the Yoruba Obas Forum (YOF), in its reaction, frowned at the installation.

“This singular act is an aberration and Oba Akinruntan needs to be called to order”, the forum said.

“The attention of the Yoruba Obas Forum, being the umbrella body of over 200 Obas in the South West and North Central regions of Nigeria (comprising of OSUN, OGUN, OYO, EKITI, ONDO, LAGOS KOGI, KWARA STATES of Nigeria), has been drawn to the recent illegal, unwarranted and unprecedented endorsement and installation of certain persons as Oba Yoruba of Liberia, Oba Yoruba of Republic of Ireland and Oba Yoruba of Atlanta, Oba Akile of Dallas by Obama Akinruntan.

“It is apposite to state, categorically, that the Yoruba Obas Forum strongly and vehemently rejects this sacrilegious endorsement and purported installation which is not only illegal but also alien to the Yoruba custom and tradition.

“We state, unequivocally and without fear of contradiction, that the purported installation is an affront to the Yoruba tradition and a desecration of Yoruba custom and tradition.

“It must be made crystal clear that Oba Akinruntan does not possess such power, under any guise, to endorse, install, or crown anyone as Yoruba Oba outside his domain.

“Consequently the purported installation and coronation is declared ultra vires, illegal, void and of no effect whatsoever and cannot stand the test of time.

“We as a body hereby disassociate ourselves from this illegal and caricature installation and we consider it as abominable and highly condemnable act.

“We hereby call on His Excellency, Mr. Rotimi Akeredolu, SAN, to cause a discreet and holistic investigation meted with decisive action against him and to call the Olugbo of Ugbo to order and compel him to rescind his illegal action, so as to prevent future occurrence.

“Consequently, we hereby call on Oba Akinruntan to immediately reverse the purported installation with a public apology

“All authentic Yoruba Obas are hereby requested to ensure that none of these illegally crowned Obas is permitted to dress, talk, assume or act like Obas anywhere on Nigeria soil and, if they do not retrace their illegal steps, should be considered outcast in all parts of Yoruba land and by all Yoruba indigenes worldwide.

“We equally like the concerned embassies as well as the general public to take notice of our stand”.

Meanwhile, Akinruntan, in a response to Gani Adams’ attack, said he has “the capacity to endorse and authenticate the Obas in Diaspora.

Speaking through his Director of Media, Otunba Adeyemi, the Olugbo said, “Oba Akinruntan has not set a precedent by endorsing the Obas in Diaspora. As a paramount ruler and prescribed authority, the Olugbo has the capacity to endorse and authenticate the Obas in Diaspora.

“The endorsed Obas who are Oba Saheed Olamilekan Adufe (Oba Yoruba of Ireland), Oba Shola Akinrimisi (Oriade of Georgia) and Oba Omobolaji Ogunkoya (Oba Yoruba of Liberia) are Yoruba royal ambassadors who should be encouraged.

“Otunba Gani Adams is a chief in Yorubaland who lacks the traditional competence to challenge any monarch in Yorubaland in the absence of the Alaafin, talk less of a paramount ruler in the person of Oba Akinruntan.

“Aare Ona Kakanfo has jumped the gun and he is largely advertising a lot of ignorance. He cannot address the Olugbo in the manner he did. As a chief, he has indeed overrated himself by addressing governors and monarchs too.

“Nevertheless, kabiyesi is absent and that will necessitate that an appropriate response be issued at a later time, shortly”.

‘We stand with Ooni, Alaafin, Awujale’


On the controversy, Oba Segun Ogunye Ojotumoro of Abigi Ijebu Waterside, Ogun State said, “It is a terrible action by the Olugbo. It is an act of trespass, in law and in tradition. Every Oba has a gazette. Olugbo has a gazette that only allows him to operate within his domain. And the highest he could do is to work in Ondo State and his subjects do not call him Imperial or anything rather than an Oba. Our attitude to it as members of Yoruba Obas Forum is that he does not have that power to confirm Obaship on anybody in Disapora. You don’t give what you don’t have. It is unfortunate that he is acting that way and we see it as an absurd to Yoruba kingship institution.

“On the issue of hierarchy, my reaction is that all of them should stop the battle for supremacy. We already have three of them that history supports: the Ooni of Ife, the Alaafin of Oyo and the Awujale of Ijebuland. We have never had it that Olugbo came up with his own history of Yorubaland. Whichever way you look at it, we are all Yoruba. We will keep working for peace in the land and should stop the unnecessary war of supremacy and distortion of history. I don’t think it is right”.

Oba Adedayo Shyllon-Sogbulu, Alagbado of Agbado, on his part, said, “In Yoruba land we have only one Ife king who is the Ooni overseeing the cradle of the entire Yoruba race. Olugbo is a king in Ugbo and not the Ooni of Ife. His kingdom migrated from Ife on his own accord and cannot claim to be the number one king in Yoruba land. On endorsement of certain people as kings, he has no power to do that. “Every Oba has regulations that guide him. He is restricted to his domain. He is Olugbo of Ugbo in Ilaje Kingdom. The Ilaje Kingdom has superiors. He is not even the paramount ruler of Ilaje as a kingdom. Secondly, the people he installed as Oba are not of royal blood, not from Ilaje Kingdom and also not living in his domain. No Oba has the power to install anyone outside his authority. His action is illegal and condemnable. We have made our opinion known and also will have a conference to that effect”.

Oba Adeoya Gbenga Oyinlola II, Aare Ofikiland of Oyo State, said, “As Nigerians, we follow our customs, traditions and the rule of law. We have our territories and everyone follows rules. In Yorubaland, we have three imperial kings, the Ooni of Ife, the Alaafin of Oyo and the Awujale, and they are those that are traditionally invested with such powers to recognise and install any Oba to that effect. And, again, we condemn, in totality, the action of the Olugbo. It is an affront on the tradition and values of Yorubaland.

In our conference, held sometime, last year, we agreed that no Oba outside the Yorubaland should be installed without the consent of the Ooni and Alaafin. Traditionally, before you can become an Oba in Yorubaland, you must conquer a territory or come from a royal lineage and pass through the kingmakers’ protocol. You can be a Yoruba leader outside the land but not an Oba. Olugbo’s action is Illegal because his office is gazetted and does not have the power outside his domain to do that. We have called on the Ondo State government to look into the matter and call him to order because he holds the tradition and value of the Yoruba race at a stake”.

Oba Idris Oladele Friday Kosoko, the Oniworo of Iworo land, Lagos State, said, “As a custodian of tradition and values, I am totally against the installation of any Oba in a foreign country. It is a wrong pattern of leadership and we, as Yoruba Obas, condemned this particular action, last year, during the Heritage Convention of Yoruba Obas held in Osun State. We resolved in writing to foreign embassies not to accord any person parading himself as a Yoruba Oba without a domain in Yorubaland. Besides, we have ambassadors and diplomats representing our interests in any foreign country. A person of influence can be a Yoruba leader but not an Oba. Olugbo did not do it right”.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/05/i-am-the-leader-of-all-obas-in-yorubaland-oba-akinruntan/?amp

TAO11:


Nothing could be more absurd, incoherent and contradictory than the hypothesis that Oduduwa is from Bini land (formerly Igodomigodo land).

The "Oghene N' Uhe" (as the Binis in ancient times articulate "Ooni Ife" ) was considered by the Binis themselves (evidenced by many of their conversations with João Afonso d'Aveiros around 1480) to be suzerain over Bini Kingdom.

The Ooni of Ife was an emperor whose approval must be sought before Benin Kingdom would crown an Oba.

How can such an emperor be descended from a kingdom who accords allegiance to him and his Empire?

It just doesn't add up and there are many more piercing evidence demonstrating that Oduduwa is certainly not from Benin Kingdom even though his Yoruba descendants later gave him admission into the Yoruba pantheon, thus later giving him mythical attributes.

Regarding whether or not Olugbo of Ugbo was the ruler of Ife prior to Oduduwa's ascension from "his country", wherever that is:

Firstly, the submission of modern experts on the subject of whether Oduduwa is alien to Ife is that many "Yorubas" migrated back home to Ife from the North-East of Africa in different waves of home-coming migration.

And that Oduduwa was a leader of one of those waves of home-coming migration of the "Yorubas". We see evidence of this in the fact that Shango-Oba-Koso, born in Ife, once ruled as king over the Nubian Kush kingdom.

Secondly, prior to Oduduwa's coming to Ife, there were already about fifteen different Ilus (or states) in the country called Ile-Ife, each with its Oba (or king). These states which still exists till date with its respective kings are:

Ido
Iloromu
Ideta-Oko
Odun
Iloran
Oke-Oja
Imojubi
Iraye
Ijugbe
Oke-Awo
Iwinrin
Parakin
Omologun
Ilemure (now Obokun)
Ugbo.

It wasn't until the ascension of Oduduwa that all these Ile-Ife kingdom-states became centralized under one political structure with all of the kingdom-states accepting Oduduwa's central political and religious leadership, unlike Agboniregun whose central leadership (prior to Oduduwa) was solely religious.

So, given this background it becomes immediately obvious that the Olugbo of Ugbo's claim that he ruled Ife prior to Oduduwa is just a spin, a twist, and a reshuffling of historical facts.

Olugbo Ugbo never ruled the country called Ife. Instead he controlled only one of its states just as each of the other fourteen state has its independent king and at a time when there wasn't yet a centralized political structure.

[[If you doubt any of the facts I have stated above, please let me know and I will provide you with evidence, proof, and reason.]]

Amujale:


The Mecca story is debunked as a falsity.

Oduduwa hails from within Yorubaland, Nigeria.

When The Emperorsic reigns on the throne, Arabia wasn't even in existence.

These times depict when the only people on the planet are residents of the African continent; blacksic, brown and, or, bronze.

Sanchez01:

This is wrong. 'The Source VS The seat of government'. The crown General in Yorubaland is none other than the Ooni. If I know this as a non-Yoruba then you surely need to question the understanding of your own history.

This was the same thing that plunged the late Sijuwade and Aláàfin into a cold war for years.

Anyways, I'm sure the Aláàfin knows that the seat of origin is much more powerful than the seat of government. The Aláàfin bowed to the present Oonirisa in a function sometimes ago and that in itself speaks volume.

samuk:


It is accepted by but the Yoruba and Benin that the Benin requested for Oduduwa to send a son to Benin as king.

TOBESKI15:
I DONT BLAME HIM,HE STOLE THE MANDATE

iT WAS MIMIKO THAT ILLEGALLY INSTALLED BECAUSE OF THE FRAUDULENT MONEY HE CLAIMS HE HAS

THE POSITION DOESNT BELONG TO HIM AND HIS LINEAGE BUT HE BOUGHT IT WITH MONEY.NO WONDER HE IS DISGRACING HIMSELF

aribisala0:


I do not think this is true . Do the Benin "accept" this ,when where and how?

capitalzero:


Can they argue with him? the truth is that oduduwa met some people in ile-ife and there people were being ruled by people of ugbo. that is what I know.

aribisala0:


I do not think this is true . Do the Benin "accept" this ,when where and how?

aribisala0:

YOU are a custodian of truth?

Is your truth not hearsay
What do you mean by "Historical basis" exactly
You seem to be mixing things up. HE is claiming that his people WERE the aboriginals that were met in Ife and that they had royalty who were forced out by the Oduduwa dynasty and that he is a direct descendant of that royalty and that the Oduduwa dynaty are usurpers
He is nor the only oba not claiming Oduduwa ancestry.That is an UNTRUTH
Most if not all Obas in Eko do not and cannot claim Ife ancestry
In fact the moment you hear a king called "Oba of ..... he is unlikely to claim Ife because Yorubas typically do not use Oba as "style"
When Egbe Omo Oduduwa was formed their was controversy about the title
Not everyone claims to be Omo Oduduwa and even the term "Yoruba" used to be reserved for Oyo and their relations.
So an Ijebu person or Egba person would say things like "that Yoruba man that sells ,,,,," It is Nigeria that has forced us all to call ourselves "Yoruba"

oduademonest:


By openly questioning the supremacy of the Ooni, he has given room for rirr-raffs like this guy to distort Yoruba history

forgiveness:



Oduduwa was not from Benin.

Amujale:
Those scholars who claim Oduduwa came from Mecca have a total disregard for Time, the chronology of The Ages and how they are meant to line up in a kind of perfect harmony.

West Africa predates Asia in years that amount in their thousands upon thousands.

Therefore, the Mecca assertion has no logical basis and as a result is simply implausible.

Let's differentiate rhetorical commentary from true history.

perryy:


Izoduwa (oduduwa) was from Benin. Anyone who believe he fell from the sky must be drunk as there is no life in the sky. The people then believed he came from the sky because he told them he was the son of Ogiso(king of the sky) . Those men that believed he was from Saudi are dimwitted as it would have been impossible for him to treck down to Ile Ife all the way from Saudi. He told them he was from the side where the sun rises from , that is East, and Benin is east of Ife .

In that case , Olugbo is right ,if you are talking of Paramount rulers of those that speak the Yoruba language. Now if u are talking of Oyo empire, then the Alafin of Oyo is number one and not even Ile ife as Ife did not great any empire . Outside Oyo empire , there was no other unified Yoruba kingdom in history which Ife was the head of. Now , how cone Ooni of Ife is now the number one ruler of Yoruba land ? Was there anything like Yoruba land in history? What history has is Oyo empire which was headed by the Alafin of Oyo and not Ooni of Ife.

If we are to jettison the Oyo empire and talk about a unified Yoruba kingdom, I think the Olugbo is very right as his kingdom predate that of Izoduwa no obhi Arunmunda ( Oduwuwa the son of Arunmunda) It is either we jettison Oyo influence and recognize Ugbo or stand by Oyo and make Alafin the number one ruler of
the modern Oyo empire . Thank you.