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Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 3:09pm On May 07, 2019 |
ademijuwonlo: 90% will have nothing to do with idol. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by LazyGold(m): 3:13pm On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0: Yes Oduduwa usurped power from Obatala which means even if he was Obatala descendant he still have no claim, the power is already lost |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 3:19pm On May 07, 2019 |
LazyGold:Are you the Tribunal in their matter? Why talk like a child . What is lost cannot be reclaimed? Israel was lost for 2000 years and today they are back peppering the Palestinians Has Ooni not lost power to Nigeria? This is not to say I support him or even believe him. By your logic we should never have fought for independence The fact that you have always believed something does not mean it is true |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by LazyGold(m): 3:38pm On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0: The Fulani Usurped Hausa power so who is now with the power today? Americans Usurped power from the Aborigines people so who is now with the power today? Yes Isreal is back but not without a war Obatala and Oduduwa have already fought this war and Obatala lost which means any Obatala descendant don't have any right to power because they have already lost it. If Obatala descendants want to be back in power but then there is going to be another war to reclaim what they already lost All you are doing is calling for war in Yoruba Land, no Obatala descendants have any right to power in Ile ife because they have already lost it and if they want the power back the will have to follow the same process of which they lost the power again and that is through War. 1 Like |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 3:47pm On May 07, 2019 |
LazyGold: Was there a war to claim independence from the British You cannot envision beyond the confines of your brainpower. Who is in power today will not be there tomorrow Do we even know that there will be Yoruba in that space tomorrow Such limitations are innate and are rarely overcome. War is not the only way to achieve political objectives |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 3:50pm On May 07, 2019 |
LazyGold: |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by LazyGold(m): 4:00pm On May 07, 2019 |
[quote author=samuk post=78185976][/quote] There is no mirage anywhere, there is Unity In Yoruba Land but we have some few bad eggs though but no one take anything serious and even if Nigeria fall apart all the sub tribes can't form a country on their own. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Isoduwa(m): 4:05pm On May 07, 2019 |
KingLennon: Which statement? You talking about nigga please allow it � I'm busy counting money � not statement |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by LazyGold(m): 4:17pm On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0: You think you are wiser than every one and that just make you a big fool It was even the Oduduwa descendants that succeeded in uniting Yoruba after they usurped power from Obatala descendans but you can keep wallowing in your ignorance, I'm done arguing with a big fool that thinks he is wiser than everyone Obatala and Oduduwa fought this war and Obatala lost Your IQ is even low to have compared this situation to that of Nigeria and Britain Britain granted Nigeria freedom because they wanted to and Nigeria exist on their own while British departed, but Olugbo of Ugbo is fighting to be the head of all the Kings in Yoruba Land that will even head over Oduduwa descendants that usurped the power of Obatala descendants. Nigeria fought for freedom with Britain not supremacy Olugbo of Ugbo is not fighting for freedom but supremacy You have no brain power at all 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by LazyGold(m): 4:19pm On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0: It is stupidity to compare this situation to freedom fighting He is not fighting for freedom but supremacy |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by AreaFada2: 4:20pm On May 07, 2019 |
LazyGold: After yesrs of discussing this matter, I have no more time for this. I will only listen to someone ready to contribute financially to proper research. A substantial amount too. Not just peanuts. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 4:22pm On May 07, 2019 |
LazyGold:I wouldn't know about stupidity.That would fall within your expertise |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 5:21pm On May 07, 2019 |
forgiveness: The Noah flood story is a falsity. There are numerous flood stories, i personally know of at least 25 different other ones. Most are only aware of the one the Jews saved for them. Once those type of historical events are put into the proper context, it becomes clear that they shed further light on the climatic conditions that helped lay down the foundation of the continents that later became poplulated outside of Africa. For instance, going through all the contents in the various flood stories mentioned above, under No condtion did Africa experience those versions. I am not going to discuss flood stories exclusive to the African continent here; would instead concentrate on further a field. Hopoi Myth flood stories. Comox people – Legend of Queneesh Anishinaabe - Turtle Island flood myth Inuit, flood myth Nisqually - Myth Flood story Mesoamerican flood myth. Urcocari flood myth Unu Pachakuti -Inca flood myth. Sumerian - Myth flood stories Gilgamesh - Myth flood stories Yu the Great Nuwa e.t.c Eskimo (Orowignarak, Alaska) - "A great inundation, together with an earthquake, swept the land so rapidly that only a few people escaped in their skin canoes to the tops of the highest mountains. The truth is that apart from during the so called "big bang" and the same point in time; and or leading up to "Creation" real history has never ever made record of any instance whatsover, whereby there"s a globsl corroboration to suggest flood consumed the entire globe. All of the foreigners and places outside the continent that reported their stories to us, either experienced these AWESOME phenomenon on their own or was contained within their geographical region. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 5:31pm On May 07, 2019 |
Amujale: You can pronounce sha. You just wake up for ya house,chop eba, mess, begin talk wetin no happen before dem born anybody wey you know. Come dey talk like say you dey there as guest artiste |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 5:39pm On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0: I refer to my study with a keen sight-for-detail African history pre-colonisation. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 5:40pm On May 07, 2019 |
Amujale:Eba overdose |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 5:43pm On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0:Not at all sir, cross check my post. Is there anything you would refute? Let me know 1 Like |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 5:49pm On May 07, 2019 |
I study world history for most of my adult life so as to be able to determine true African history. These are not my findings, these are what anyone who cares for extensive research will also find and much more |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 8:39pm On May 07, 2019 |
Amujale: The words in the Bible were fulfilled, are currently being in fulfillment and will be fulfilled. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 10:33pm On May 07, 2019 |
forgiveness: Not true, the bible isnt even an historical document. The "Guiness book of Records" is a historical document. The bible as a plagerised text, is one of the most dangerous and unhealthiest pieces of literature anywhere in the world today. Kindly STOP and THINK! The bible is A FRAUD. The bible is NOT what it claims to be, in all honesty, the christian bible and all other Abrahamic text are themselves plagerised text from Africas earlier civilisations. Most people have NOT even bothered to devote enough time to read the entire bible; that which i have at least more than once. The authors of mostly all Abrahamic religious text are guilty of a huge amount of criminality; they had a total disregard for time, the chronolgy of the Ages and how they are meant to line up in a kind of perfect harmony. Instead they create those fantasy stories. They made use of plagerised text, sex-up literatute and viscious insinuations meant to basterdize the characters of the original authors. There is not one character, chronology or story in all the Abrahamic text, that can claim to be original. Most of the stories can simply be described as complexed rankxeros of various ancient civilisations from around the world, especially Africa. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 12:01am On May 08, 2019 |
sharpwriter: They came about much later, after the "inter-stadio"; after the "Out of Africa" experience. Two distinct phenomenon occur simultaneously: (1)Geological phenomena i.e. Ice Age (2)Biological phenomena i.e African women are granted a unique special ability that allows giving birth to non-African looking offspring. These two distinct phenomenon are said to have combined to create the environment for the many other recent social groups that eventually morphed out of African ethnicity. Even Genetics suppprts the idea that most people today can easily trace their common "genetic signature" from African ethnicity. Asians and Europeans missed out on 50% of world history. Africans have been in existence since the dawn of time, whilst records put the current stock of Europeans and Asians in existence as of B.C.E. Before the Common Era Its important to note that most modern day historians prefer to make use of the notation sytems: C.E and B.C.E Common Era - C.E opposed to Dominic notations AD "2019 C.E" is the standard universal version refering to both the Gregorian and Julian calendars of "AD 2019" Before the Common Era - B.C.E opposed to using the notations BC "400 BCE" is the standard universal version refering to both the Gregorian and Julian calendars of "400 BC". |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 8:40am On May 08, 2019 |
Amujale: Guy, how do you expect the people that are still finding it difficult to understand the simple stories in the bible to comprehend all these your ABC, BAC and CBBC common era. These guys goes to church and study the bible and all the promises in it for years, yet they can't understand and apply them to better their lives, meanwhile the pastors are buying private jets all over the place while most of the congratulations remain poor. 1 Like |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 8:40am On May 08, 2019 |
Born2Breed: Exactly my point. Why didn't the Ogiso developed Igodomigodo after 500 years? ![]() Igodomigodo was disorganized for 500 year until oranmiyan the grandson( whom Benins claimed was the son) of Oduduwa came and arraigned your system. Infact, he was rejected because he was counted as a stranger. The reason he left Benin and called it Ilu ibi nu which later metaphor to Ubini and currently Benin. He dropped his son Owo mi ka now pronounced Eweka to rule Ilu ibinu(Benin) because the Ogiso didnt want a foreigner with a foreign style of leadership to rule them. Oranmiyan was opposed because he was not the son of the soil according to your account. How can Oduduwa from Benin if the OGISO saw him a FOREIGNER? Bhuhahahaha! ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 8:44am On May 08, 2019 |
Amujale: Is there a country called Isreal? Where was Isreal as at 1940? How did they disappear from the map after several years and suddenly resurfaced on the map? Do you have an answer for these questions? |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 10:51am On May 08, 2019 |
forgiveness: I commend your historical knowledge. Good question. They didnt disperse from the map, because they didnt exist in the first place. The authors of the bible made up the storyline so as to better controll the Arabs and their own people at the time. In my opinion its a gigantic CON game that has its roots in complexed political and sociological strategy between The Arabs and The Europeans as they both battle for world domination. The State of Isreal is NOT the biblical Israelites. Apart from the fact that the biblical Israelites didnt really exist in accordance to their own records. That is the reason i wouldnt argue with the point of view that suggest Africans are the people the authors in the bible used to model on the Isrealites. So the Arabs extreemist and the Eurocentrics have been at logger heads for thousands upon thousands of years; since both their existence. They use everything at their against disposal, holy wars, crusades, phychological warfare e.t.c Their manufactured religions are all part of the race to world domination. Who are the Isrealis? Israelis are divided into 2 main sects (a) The Zionist - these are a mixture of difreent European tribes; are the political class, most are not religious, as they only care about security of the realm and politiking. (b) The Jews - these are mixture of different European tribes that profess and practise Judaism. Who does the bible claim are Isrealites? According to the bible, the Jews reside in the Middle East, and the Arabs have always lived there. Therefore, according to the authors of the bible, the Jews are Arabs. The only time Eurocentrics lived in the Middle East before the eventual artificial creation of Isreal, was as a result of the early Crusades. Manufactured religions are a CON, all Abrahamic religions fall under that definition. Eurocentric(s) Are the section of the general public that bought into the European supremacy concept and or ideologies |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 1:12pm On May 08, 2019 |
Amujale: This thread is about Yorubas not a platform for self indulgence 1 Like |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 1:36pm On May 08, 2019 |
Amujale: If Isreal never existed how come it came into existence from nowhere? You have not answered my questions. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 2:39pm On May 08, 2019 |
forgiveness: So what was the relationship between Ife and Igodomigodo that necessitated Igodomigodo's chiefs to sort for guidance and request a son from Oduduwa to rule over them. Where but people strangers to each others? What language did they used, did they understand each others languages or was it a sign language that was used to make the request? How many people do you know in history after developing a dynasty for over 500 years and then go to a foreign land with less dynastic history and accomplished and request for a foreign ruler. What was Ife's accomplished as of that time that will make Igodomigodo to seek a ruler from there. Ife was neither a Kingdom, an empire or had a supreme military for protection, so why will Igodomigodo abandon their own Ogiamen and seek Ife king? Amongst other accomplishments of Igodomigodo/Benin is a Guinness world record of the largest man made structure on the planet, "the Benin moat/wall". 4 times the size of the great China wall. The Benin achieved this more than 600 years ago without the help of mechanical diggers. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by rhektor(m): 5:36pm On May 08, 2019 |
samuk: Ifè is not a kingdom, yet how did the Bini get to know of its existence? 1 Like |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 5:43pm On May 08, 2019 |
rhektor: Benin got to know of Ife because Oduduwa (Imadoduwa in Benin language) was a Benin prince who was then the king at Ife. When Benin chiefs got to Ife to request him to come back to Benin after the death of the last Ogiso Owodo who was Oduduwa's father, the Benin spoke Benin to him and he understood because he was a Benin prince. He refused to return to Benin sitting old age and instead sent his son Oranmiyan. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 6:41pm On May 08, 2019 |
forgiveness: Its a hoax, a con, a lie, a complexed fabrication. Not real. The current Israelis are a mixture of European tribes that claim to be Jews, they are all descendants of Europe from all around the world. Its con job, the reason you wont find many black men/women in Isreal. Because Isreal was created in the 1900(s) to help sell their fake and twisted stories to the world. |
Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Amujale(m): 6:50pm On May 08, 2019 |
aribisala0: Really? Well if you can read, you will find that was a response to a simple question. But you didnt bother to check and instead jump into conclusion. |
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