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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Suspect33(m): 1:28pm On May 05, 2019 |
GoodMemory:on a scale of one to ten, how racist would you say Australians are? |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Alphadoor: 10:57am On May 06, 2019 |
Australia is not cold Australia is not that cold Australia is not so cold Winter is mild.... Issa Lie ooooo. Cold is hugging me for the past two weeks and it's not even mild winter yet..... Cold chills of air everywhere. The bus and train AC blasting away... Thank God I brought my winter jacket 10 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by LadyHeaven(f): 11:13am On May 06, 2019 |
Alphadoor: Sir please did you migrate as a Civil Engr? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by bligs: 2:23pm On May 06, 2019 |
Alphadoor:It depends on area, Northern Territory has just two seasons and the weather is similar to that of Nigeria. Victoria is very cold during mid winter but Tasmania is the coldest on average. The lowest temperature I have recorded in Melbourne is -2degrees last year August and it snows in Mount Bulla about 3hrs drive from Melbourne CBD. 4 Likes
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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DoDirtsLikeWorm(m): 4:26pm On May 06, 2019 |
GoodMemory: Are they eatable? Or is there a law attached to them? 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by trastar(f): 11:04pm On May 06, 2019 |
Is there anyone here on 489 visa in SA who moved with Family? A family member is contemplating it as the only available occupation for her is customer service manager. I just want to know "how bad" it really is relocating to SA on 489 visa with two kids. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by trastar(f): 11:23pm On May 06, 2019 |
afosahid: This is the first time I am reading about this. lol |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ozonechrome: 8:13am On May 07, 2019 |
Alphadoor: Hahahahahaha. Me that's enjoying the Cold. It's not as cold as I expected. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ozonechrome: 8:13am On May 07, 2019 |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ozonechrome: 8:14am On May 07, 2019 |
LadyHeaven: No he did not. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by LadyHeaven(f): 9:09am On May 07, 2019 |
ozonechrome: Thank you 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Omooloriredade: 10:29am On May 07, 2019 |
afosahid: Congratulations 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Omooloriredade: 11:26am On May 07, 2019 |
@Good Memmory You can write sha! I'm a lazy reader but I find your posts engaging. Good stuff. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Nobody: 1:25pm On May 07, 2019 |
@Alphadoor...Boss, messages on your WhatsApp are not dropping. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 4:16am On May 08, 2019 |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 4:17am On May 08, 2019 |
Thanks chief bellong: |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 5:36am On May 08, 2019 |
Racism.... Here are my thoughts on this topic. My default thought is... if you look at everything from the prism of racism, you will certainly find racism in almost every interaction you have with people of other races. So you must be very conscious of keeping an open and objective mind on this topic. Case example, I was in the elevator at our office building when a guy from a different floor was waiting to come into the elevator. Elevator door opens and he literally FROZE when he saw me . I just smiled at him and he came in. I wish i had captured that moment on video. He couldn't hide his surprise. Does that mean he is racist? No! He probably had never seen a black person in that building before and I think i'm likely the only black person that works in that building (Building houses multiple companies on different floors) In the professional environment, especially if you are not in the major cities like Sydney and Melbourne where there is a very large and diverse population, the locals will definitely find it unusual when a new person from a different race and background joins the team. Be confident, be bold in your conversations with them. First impressions matter a lot; introduce yourself, give them a firm handshake and look them straight in the eye when talking to them. Please understand that you are dealing with your equal (a human being like you), do not be intimidated. They will ask you questions, some genuinely trying to know more about you and understand how to deal with and address you properly, while some are just out-rightly looking for a reason to be pissed at you (these cases are few and far-fetched though). Most people I have interacted and currently work with have been mostly pleasant so I have no racist experiences to share. I beg you in God's name DO NOT ADDRESS THEM AS SIR/MA. I have seen one of our people address these guys as sir at a place i worked and i always felt like slapping those words out of his mouth . Even when you try to tell him it's not right, he'll say ''i'm an African man, that's how i know how to address them. All of the above is not to say racism does not exist. Racism is alive and well entrenched in some people. This is just the same with even our own people and ethnic bigotry. It can never be totally wiped out. One thing you can be rest assured of is there are strong laws that help protect minorities against discrimination and hate in the work environment and society at large. So should there be a case of a co-worker or boss being out-rightly racist or discriminatory towards you, you can seek redress through various channels created by the government for this purpose. But trust me, once they see that you are a strong character and you carry yourself with respect and dignity, most of them won't bother looking for your trouble and it makes it easier to navigate your way in the work environment and society at large. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Alphadoor: 8:23am On May 08, 2019 |
afosahid:Well said. Your manager is not your oga No need for eye service or toe kissing Hone your skills Earn your respect Earn your money � 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Bnimz(m): 1:59pm On May 08, 2019 |
Alphadoor:Eye service dey sha o.. just that they call it office politics.. Trust me, eye service can do wonders... Just ask indians 6 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Bnimz(m): 2:07pm On May 08, 2019 |
afosahid:Well, in my opinion, I prefer to risk catching it from outside than taking it into my body directly in the name of "vaccine". .. especially given the number of people who have reported getting sick immediately after taking the shot... They say that's just how the vaccine works, but I'll pass, thanks.. . Funny thing is, since I left naija, I haven't experienced cold, cough and cattarh (a.k.a Flu). Not even in the colder uk... Abeg e... Nothing dey happen. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by iammiracle1(m): 3:50pm On May 08, 2019 |
AdetonaDami: Hello sir, please i am also a CE and looking seriously at Australia now, please have you assessed? if yes did you go through EA? 3 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by GoodMemory: 11:48pm On May 08, 2019 |
This calls for sober reflection on our race and how we see ourselves as a people if in 2019, a human being sees another human being in an office environment for that matter and gets startled or scared. While I cannot question how individuals choose to react to situations, I think there is need to start looking at where we are coming from and where we are going as black people. The act on its own is not as important as what prompted it. The white guy has in his deep-seated subconscious mind programmed that black people are a danger, a threat, so, when he saw a one in an unfamiliar space and time, his suspicion came into play. I have personally had about two encounters like that too. One on occasion, the white guy apologized. He himself must have been embarrassed. For Goodness sake, its 2019, black people are everywhere. In our lifetime, we have seen a black man become the world most powerful man. We have seen influencers and achievers like Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jackson, Neil DeGrasse, Ben Carson etc. While I agree it might not be a racist act, it is not a sight I will be proud to capture on camera for the fun of it as a black man. Thanks 4 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 1:12am On May 09, 2019 |
Good thing i started my write-up with if you look at every situation from a prism of racism.... Honest Question... can a black person be startled if he sees a white man in the most unexpected place like in a ministry office or anywhere else for that matter, especially if he has never seen one walk through that building for as long as he has been working there? Does that mean he doesn't know of the existence of the white man or the fact that we have thousands of them living and working freely all over black countries? His reaction could mean a whole lot of different things. Can he be judged as discriminatory solely based on that situation? My answer remains no. Trust me, some of us are quite exposed and understand human interactions on a global scale. And of course, we carry ourselves with dignity and understand that we are all created as equals irrespective of race and skin color. GoodMemory: 6 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by trastar(f): 1:51am On May 09, 2019 |
GoodMemory: I typed a really long response to this and I had to delete. Let me understand you first, you are not happy with how he reacted and the fact he found the whole situation funny? |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by GoodMemory: 1:56am On May 09, 2019 |
afosahid: I quite agreed with you his actions might not be racist. It cannot be discriminatory as well as you did not even have any interaction. Please check my last sentence. There is a huge difference between surprise and startle. You used the word FROZE and even in Caps. Freeze means "become suddenly motionless or paralyzed with fear or shock". I do not know of any black man that will freeze on seeing a white man in a most unexpected place. At most they might be pleasantly surprised on seeing one. Comparing Nigeria with Australia on this issue is a wrong analogy. Nigeria is a homogeneous society with 99% of the population black. It is justifiable if a Nigerian is surprised and even startled when he sees a white man. Moreso, in terms of residency and spread, most white people in Nigeria live in designated suburbs and posh hotels far from majority of black people in Nigeria. On the other hand, Australia is a heterogeneous society, (at least the big cities) where black people and white live in same suburbs, work in same cbd, shop in the same mall etc. If therefore after all these, someone FROZE or is STARTLED on seeing a black person unexpectedly, then that person might have unconsciously reacted to it based on what he thinks about black people. 5 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 2:39am On May 09, 2019 |
I found your initial response to my post quite condescending and judging from your numerous posts here, I would expect you to know better. My reaction to his surprise is entirely up to me so your words ''While I cannot question how individuals choose to react to situations, I think there is need to start looking at where we are coming from and where we are going as black people.'' were totally unnecessary. However a white man reacts when he sees a black man anywhere in the world is his business and a reflection of who he is. As long as he doesn't disrespect me in anyway, no offense taken. How you have chosen to make that a topic of how a black man sees himself as beneath the white man is astonishing and in fact, more offensive than the surprising look on the white man's face. I encourage us all to treat whatever information being shared here as the poster's opinion. No point disrespecting one another. GoodMemory: 3 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 2:40am On May 09, 2019 |
Me sef first confuse when i read the post! trastar: |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by GoodMemory: 2:50am On May 09, 2019 |
afosahid: Dear Afosahid, Do not take it personal. My post was not an indictment on you. This is an avenue to air our different opinions and views on issues and there was no where I was condescending in any way. On many occasions, after writing, I ask for opinions and even ask for corrections where I am wrong. I am new in Australia and still learning. If you feel I am offensive, sorry bro(or sis). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Alphadoor: 4:12am On May 09, 2019 |
@afosahid @trastar @goodmemory Nice debate on the matter On this topic, I must add that perception is very important in how we handle the matter. Micro expressions are sometimes misinterpreted and are also sometimes spot on. Afosahid has given an account of his/her own recent experience and wishing to have a Kodak moment is just a metaphor. Your defination of froze being that of fear is rather too narrow as one can also freeze from being surprised or startled and not just fear.. At first I had same reaction as Trastar but it's good not to quickly reactive and let things play out and now things seems clearer with further contributions from both parties. Let's keep sharing our views and opinions.. if we don't.. wetin we gain 3 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by afosahid: 4:31am On May 09, 2019 |
No worries. I am a bro by the way. GoodMemory: |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Alphadoor: 4:50am On May 09, 2019 |
Federal Election is coming on the 18th of May and everywhere is just as peaceful and sane like every other day. I don't if it's just my area or am I missing the cues On the news.. nothing out of the ordinary Watching the debate between the contestants is watching two friends argue about sports. The way politicians campaign at the train station, no security, no guns.. no eruku... No baba alaye... people even ignore them in other to catch up with the train... Only siren I hear is police ambulance or firetrucks or children's toy. Last week I got two handwritten letters in my mail from a candidate supporter detailing with evidence why I should show my support for their candidates This might as well be at the top of my own culture shock so far!!! 9 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by trastar(f): 6:44am On May 09, 2019 |
Alphadoor:On the issue of handwritten letter, that thing is still making me wonder. did they really write that themselves? When they hand me the flyer to vote, i want to tell them i cant vote abeg. no waste your flyer on me. |
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