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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:36pm On May 09, 2019
komekn:


EVASION + EVASION X EVASION.

You made the claim now you should prove it.

I only asked you to give me one example of falsehood or lies that you can attribute to me.

But you haven't done that show some integrity and character, and back up your claims.

Or you are a BIG LIAR


komekn:


We are Nigerians we know our DNA and we can be delusional or realistic or down right ignorant about it.

As Falz said this is " Nigeria "

We know what can happen and often does happen. I could tell you stories that I know you be 100% true but I can not prove it in a court of law.

What % of Custom and police officers take bribe and or are corrupt ❓ How many have been convicted in comparison to the % who are corrupt. Does that mean there is no corruption.

The reality some of you rely on news media stories.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:36pm On May 09, 2019
Eruditor:


You are so correct!

The core of his squad is the one he inherited. The rest are to augment the depth. He literally improved every single player in the club. All of them have exceeded their past performances bar none. I don't understand all these lies about money. The only player City signed this season was Mahrez. Add to that, KDB who was City's best player last year was out for long yet they are going to peep LFC to the title. How many times the key players go down and yet Pep reinvented the squad to compete. I don't know how people don't see that as great coaching. Someone even tried to make Zinczenko look like a formidable buy. A winger that Pep has turned to a LB. I can't deal.

Liverpool are having their best ever season historically (at least by numbers) but they are still behind this juggernaut called City. Somehow people forget the quality of City's play and make it look like City were always this way. I mean, every English team spent money. Chelsea have spent more in the last 2 seasons than City but nobody says peem about them.

Everybody knows the truth about pep and city BT most of them are blinded by the hate of pep
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:41pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

I have maintained Pep is a good manager but I wont over celebrate his success because that was expected after the massive investment by the Abu Dabi group.

By the way you didn't get back to me on Liverpool's league position when Klopp took over. I want to hear you say it.

Should I remind you that pochetino is in the champions league final and didn't spend a dime on buying any player in the past 18 months ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:42pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Liverpool fans Tottenham no go gree for una o ,make I dey observe sha .
I could offer u an humble pie on a platter of gold and you would refuse it...
After all your noise...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 3:47pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Should I remind you that pochetino is in the champions league final and didn't spend a dime on buying any player in the past 18 months ?
That's why I rate him ahead of Pep. Guys like Rose, Alli, Keane, Tripper, Son where virtually unknown before working with Pochetino while Luca Moura was a caste off at Psg, Wayama and Sissoko were playing in small Premiership clubs, the less said about Llorente the better.
I have respect for people who achieve results with limited reasourses. It is a trait of sound leadership and good management.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:49pm On May 09, 2019
chrisooblog:
as in honestly! kloop spent almost $200m for a keeper and defender but pep is the one buying the league. mahrez like you rightly noted hasn't even been that impactful for man city. you are so right alot of his haters always decide to develop glaucoma not noticing how much sterling has improved to beast mode. even the "anybody can win stuff with messi" jibe they love to throw they won't tell you what were messi's numbers before pep came and how messi was pushing out unreal numbers under guardiola.


The reason Klopp had to spend that much on a goalkeeper and a defender was because the likes of city and PSG have inflated the transfer market!
Check how much Klopp spent at Dortmund and how much he achieved with them..

He inherited a shitty squad from Rodgers.. He needed his own players to rebuild the team and that involved spending money...if Roma had asked for 200m for Alisson, Klopp would have paid it....if Southampton had asked for 500m for Van Djik, he would have paid it. he needed those players...

Unlike Pep that spent £60m on Mahrez to use him as a back up player, Klopp doesn't spend big on players he doesn't need in the starting eleven..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:05pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


I could offer u an humble pie on a platter of gold and you would refuse it...

After all your noise...


Sorry if this is late but congratulations. The better club won. I wish you luck in the finals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:07pm On May 09, 2019
rodgers almost won the league with players such as mignolet, mamadou sakho, ageing kolo toure, lucas, joe allen with a sprinkling of quality like gerard, suarez, sturrigde so much for shitty squad.

mahrez was supposed to make an instant impact it hasn't quite worked out pep continued to worked unlike some coaches that will blame the failure to sign one miserly defender (maguire of all people smh) as the reason for squad imbalance

Danielnino00:


The reason Klopp had to spend that much on a goalkeeper and a defender was because the likes of city and PSG have inflated the transfer market!
Check how much Klopp spent at Dortmund and how much he achieved with them..

He inherited a shitty squad from Rodgers.. He needed his own players to rebuild the team and that involved spending money...if Roma had asked for 200m for Alisson, Klopp would have paid it....if Southampton had asked for 500m for Van Djik, he would have paid it. he needed those players...

Unlike Pep that spent £60m on Mahrez to use him as a back up player, Klopp doesn't spend big on players he doesn't need in the starting eleven..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:09pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


I could offer u an humble pie on a platter of gold and you would refuse it...

After all your noise...

What humble pie ?

When I even won the first leg 3-0 I didn't even troll you Liverpool guys

Highest you go troll say una win 4-0 ,wetin don Happen don Happen

Better win that champions league final o

because if you fail to win any trophy this season then I think you will leave this thread for me

Troll your 4-0 winning while it last

Imagine mancity winning the league this weekend ? Thou anything can happen sha

Then imagine you loosing the champions league final to pochetino and his boys ?

Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by RichardKajola(m): 4:11pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

That's why I rate him ahead of Pep. Guys like Rose, Alli, Keane, Tripper, Son where virtually unknown before working with Pochetino while Luca Moura was a caste off at Psg, Wayama and Sissoko were playing in small Premiership clubs, the less said about Llorente the better.
I have respect for people who achieve results with limited reasourses. It is a trait of sound leadership and good management.
Pls let's be balance. I love Pochetino and Kloop, in fact I will be sad because one of them will lose the final.
Let's not reduce the excellent work Guardiola has done with this man city team. If money could buy success, them Mourinho won't have been sacked.
He deserves real credit spending well. Another part you are downplaying is how he has improved almost every player of his squad.
Perhaps Pochetino will have been sacked if he was in a bigger team because he has not won anything at Tottenham, now that's the pressure that comes with coaching a bigger team. That's why I rate him as a top manager, spending money is not an issue spending it well is the main thing....nobody is talking about how much VVD was bought, because it has proved to be money well spent unlike Pogba.Moreover Guardiola has never broken the transfer record not forgetting the outstanding work he did at Barcelona.
If you love pure football, you will love Guardiola's team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bunique: 4:14pm On May 09, 2019
chrisooblog:
the point goodjoe is making is that other clubs are also not spending peanuts everyone has spent big to compete. when it gets to that point it's then coaching ability that will separate men from boys. let's even analyze who were the lynchpins for pep's success last season aguero, sterling,david silva, de-bruye, fernadinho, Kompany was it pep that bought all these guys?

one thing i always find funny is why the same energy is not maintained to criticize mourinho, alex ferguson, ancelloti to say they bought the league


pep is the best coach at the moment but let's not act as if money has not played a role in his successes at city. any good manager will once in a while win the league with city but pep is doing it in grand style that's what differentiates him from the rest.
do you think pep would have achieved much with 70m transfer budget to start with?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:17pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

That's why I rate him ahead of Pep. Guys like Rose, Alli, Keane, Tripper, Son where virtually unknown before working with Pochetino while Luca Moura was a caste off at Psg, Wayama and Sissoko were playing in small Premiership clubs, the less said about Llorente the better.
I have respect for people who achieve results with limited reasourses. It is a trait of sound leadership and good management.

I know son from his Leverkusen days

Lucas has always been a good player ,psg get their own for Body sha

Lucas has been good since São Paulo days ,he and Neymar was the best player in Brazil league while Neymar playing at Santos ,Lucas was purchased at 45 million euros 7 seasons ago to psg at age 20 ,that should tell you the level of player he is

Wanyama was a beast at Celtic ,sissoko and wijnaldum was Newcastle best player back then .

I will not rate him ahead of pep ,pochetino has not won any trophy,he was supposed to win the Epl ahead of Leicester then because the Epl bigger boys where weak that season ,pochetino said his biggest moment was escaping relegation with espanyol ,maybe it will be changed after last night win against Ajax

Pochetino is good but I won't rate him ahead of pep .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:18pm On May 09, 2019
Bunique:


pep is the best coach at the moment but let's not act as if money has not played a role in his successes at city. any good manager will once in a while win the league with city but pep is doing it in grand style that's what differentiates him from the rest.
do you think pep would have achieved much with 70m transfer budget to start with?

Yes money played a role
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:21pm On May 09, 2019
of course money plays a role if not why do all the top coaches always go to top teams to prove themselves buying expensive players? why kloop didn't he join burnley or cardiff or brighton to prove his coaching ability? pocchentino should also have remained at southampton to show he can succeed without spending money


Bunique:


pep is the best coach at the moment but let's not act as if money has not played a role in his successes at city. any good manager will once in a while win the league with city but pep is doing it in grand style that's what differentiates him from the rest.
do you think pep would have achieved much with 70m transfer budget to start with?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 4:36pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


I know son from his Leverkusen days

Lucas has always been a good player ,psg get their own for Body sha

Lucas has been good since São Paulo days ,he and Neymar was the best player in Brazil league while Neymar playing at Santos ,Lucas was purchased at 45 million euros 7 seasons ago to psg at age 20 ,that should tell you the level of player he is

Wanyama was a beast at Celtic ,sissoko and wijnaldum was Newcastle best player back then .

I will not rate him ahead of pep ,pochetino has not won any trophy,he was supposed to win the Epl ahead of Leicester then because the Epl bigger boys where weak that season ,pochetino said his biggest moment was escaping relegation with espanyol ,maybe it will be changed after last night win against Ajax

Pochetino is good but I won't rate him ahead of pep .
How do you mean you knew Son? You knew him as a world class player or you knew him as just another player in Bayern Leverkusen?

Lucas Moura lost his way at Psg. He was totally a caste off at Psg. Wasn't even making the bench under Unai Emery. The revival in his career is no thanks to Pochetino? Come on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 4:40pm On May 09, 2019
RichardKajola:

Pls let's be balance. I love Pochetino and Kloop, in fact I will be sad because one of them will lose the final.
Let's not reduce the excellent work Guardiola has done with this man city team. If money could buy success, them Mourinho won't have been sacked.
He deserves real credit spending well. Another part you are downplaying is how he has improved almost every player of his squad.
Perhaps Pochetino will have been sacked if he was in a bigger team because he has not won anything at Tottenham, now that's the pressure that comes with coaching a bigger team. That's why I rate him as a top manager, spending money is not an issue spending it well is the main thing....nobody is talking about how much VVD was bought, because it has proved to be money well spent unlike Pogba.Moreover Guardiola has never broken the transfer record not forgetting the outstanding work he did at Barcelona.
If you love pure football, you will love Guardiola's team.

You don't get my point do you? I have never said anything to discredit Pep as a good coach. I think he's brilliant but I have always maintained the Klopp has made more impact judging from where he picked up LIVERPOOL and and having to spend moderately to build until last season when the club built up cash reserve and invested heavily to match city.
If you had followed my argument, you will find out I have always maintained this point.

Guardiola on the other was given a blank check by City. Infact the main reason he joined Man city in the first place was because they promised to make cash available to him for whatever he wanted with no limits.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:55pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

How do you mean you knew Son? You knew him as a world class player or you knew him as just another player in Bayern Leverkusen?

Lucas Moura lost his way at Psg. He was totally a caste off at Psg. Wasn't even making the bench under Unai Emery. The revival in his career is no thanks to Pochetino? Come on.

He was a cast off with unai emery ,go and check his psg stats ,very impressive ,only ibra and cavani are better goal scorer than him when his was playing

I know son as a player Bayern Munich is fighting to get ,that should tell you a lot

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:58pm On May 09, 2019
Man City, Everton & Watford Starlets Depart Nigeria U20 Training Camp After Bad Treatment By Coaches; Agent Emeka Ezeala's Son Loitering Around
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:59pm On May 09, 2019
forgiveness:



I hope this is not false hope? Or is this coming from the camp?

Why did you use Baba for Henry? Is he old? grin

Korede Adedoyin (Everton)
Daniel Toma. (West Ham)
Jayden Bennetts (Watford)
Fisayo Dele Bashiru (Man City)
Mashkur Tagwai
Adebayo Ojo
Zaccala

Dropped
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:59pm On May 09, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Man City, Everton & Watford Starlets Depart Nigeria U20 Training Camp After Bad Treatment By Coaches; Agent Emeka Ezeala's Son Loitering Around

They are among the players dropped. They were not treated badly

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 5:05pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

That's why I rate him ahead of Pep. Guys like Rose, Alli, Keane, Tripper, Son where virtually unknown before working with Pochetino while Luca Moura was a caste off at Psg, Wayama and Sissoko were playing in small Premiership clubs, the less said about Llorente the better.
I have respect for people who achieve results with limited reasourses. It is a trait of sound leadership and good management.

Remind them of this and they say you hate pep. Like as if he withholds our salary. Its the fact. Pep success is largely due to the unlimited resources at his disposal. Let us see if he will do the same managing west ham or Villarreal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 5:09pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


You don't get my point do you? I have never said anything to discredit Pep as a good coach. I think he's brilliant but I have always maintained the Klopp has made more impact judging from where he picked up LIVERPOOL and and having to spend moderately to build until last season when the club built up cash reserve and invested heavily to match city.
If you had followed my argument, you will find out I have always maintained this point.

Guardiola on the other was given a blank check by City. Infact the main reason he joined Man city in the first place was because they promised to make cash available to him for whatever he wanted with no limits.

If you ask most famous football pundits, managers and players, many will rate klopp above guardiola. Its not rocket science. I doubt guardiola will agree to coach Inter Milan for exa.ple because they wouldn't give him that much financial backing.

His spending notwithstanding, he has not been able to reach the champions league final not to talk of winning it. #SMH
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 5:12pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


The reason Klopp had to spend that much on a goalkeeper and a defender was because the likes of city and PSG have inflated the transfer market!
Check how much Klopp spent at Dortmund and how much he achieved with them..

He inherited a shitty squad from Rodgers.. He needed his own players to rebuild the team and that involved spending money...if Roma had asked for 200m for Alisson, Klopp would have paid it....if Southampton had asked for 500m for Van Djik, he would have paid it. he needed those players...

Unlike Pep that spent £60m on Mahrez to use him as a back up player, Klopp doesn't spend big on players he doesn't need in the starting eleven..

That's why we don't go after every tom dick and harry that shows brilliance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:24pm On May 09, 2019
tbaba1234:

Korede Adedoyin (Everton) Daniel Toma. (West Ham) Jayden Bennetts (Watford) Fisayo Dele Bashiru (Man City) Mashkur Tagwai Adebayo Ojo Zaccala
Dropped
I predicted correctly for the FB boys then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 5:36pm On May 09, 2019
tbaba1234:


Korede Adedoyin (Everton)
Daniel Toma. (West Ham)
Jayden Bennetts (Watford)
Fisayo Dele Bashiru (Man City)
Mashkur Tagwai
Adebayo Ojo
Zaccala

Dropped

Why drop these boys? I hope Aigbogun and his crew know what they are doing. I heard Daniel Toma was doing well in camp. So WHO COME DEY FOR CAMP?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:38pm On May 09, 2019
junnyjake:


I predicted correctly for the FB boys then.

Some were considered too young..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:40pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


You don't get my point do you? I have never said anything to discredit Pep as a good coach. I think he's brilliant but I have always maintained the Klopp has made more impact judging from where he picked up LIVERPOOL and and having to spend moderately to build until last season when the club built up cash reserve and invested heavily to match city.
If you had followed my argument, you will find out I have always maintained this point.

Guardiola on the other was given a blank check by City. Infact the main reason he joined Man city in the first place was because they promised to make cash available to him for whatever he wanted with no limits.

If liverpool got blank check they will give it to klopp,liverpool has been desperate to win trophy from Rodgers days and they have spend what they have,mancity is a richer than Liverpool.

For Klopp to buy a defender of 75 million should tells you alot, if liverpool have the money they will give klop a blank check, van dijk was a risk at that buy but it has already paid of, which big team buys a a defender from Southampton for 75 million

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:48pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


The reason Klopp had to spend that much on a goalkeeper and a defender was because the likes of city and PSG have inflated the transfer market!
Check how much Klopp spent at Dortmund and how much he achieved with them..

He inherited a shitty squad from Rodgers.. He needed his own players to rebuild the team and that involved spending money...if Roma had asked for 200m for Alisson, Klopp would have paid it....if Southampton had asked for 500m for Van Djik, he would have paid it. he needed those players...

Unlike Pep that spent £60m on Mahrez to use him as a back up player, Klopp doesn't spend big on players he doesn't need in the starting eleven..

Klopp should not be spending 60 million for allison, allison is good but its way too much, this got nothing to do with psg and mancity

If klopp should scout bundesliga he will get a goal keeper for 30 million

Now how much did arsenal buy brand leno in the same season mancity and psg has spoiled the market according to you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:53pm On May 09, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:55pm On May 09, 2019
darkelf:


If you ask most famous football pundits, managers and players, many will rate klopp above guardiola. Its not rocket science. I doubt guardiola will agree to coach Inter Milan for exa.ple because they wouldn't give him that much financial backing.

His spending notwithstanding, he has not been able to reach the champions league final not to talk of winning it. #SMH

Which football pundit will rate klopp ahead guardiola? Maybe the british pundit who are always bias

Jurgen klopp has lost 2 european finals with Liverpool,i am sure if guardiola has done that the english will call him a failure because they hate him( I am not saying klop is a failure o ) incase you are thinking so

Has tottenham not also reach the champions league final without spending for the past 18 months?

Didnt unai emery won the europa league ahead of klop with a cheap sevilla team so because of that i should say unai emery is better than klop abi?

Why will guardiola coach crappy inter millan? I will bet you that if klop coach inter millan he will not win seria A with their squad as far as he is using those guys and juventus is still in that league

With all the money man united spend why are they yet to win the epl?

Ranieri won the epl with a cheap leicester and an unknown vardy a cheap ngolo kante shebi klop was at liverpool then so he is better than klop and others manager abi?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:56pm On May 09, 2019
Bunique:


you are not really getting the point. pep for me is the best coach currently but to be honest, his quick successes in the EPL is largely due to the amount of cash at his disposal.
the replacements were necessary and justifiable but pep was able to carryout the cleansing exercise quickly because there was cash available to do that.
look at Arsenal for example, the coach will have to work with the players he has despite everyone knowing the players are not really good enough. It will take Emery several transfer windows to get the squad of his own choice.
in all honesty do you think pep would have achieved this much with city if he was handed 70m as transfer budget? pep would have eventually transformed city but it would have taken time like say 2 to 3 seasons to get them to this current level.


I already stated clearly that the current state of the market requires sound investment and brilliant decision making.

However, I doubt if Emery had Guardiola's kitty, he would make such rise. Look at our performances in all competitions this season. Klopp would likely win the Champions league but he did not dominate at all fronts like Guardiola did.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:59pm On May 09, 2019
17 year old Plateau United midfielder Mohammed Zulkifilu. shocked shocked

One of the players expected to make the team.. Utility player..

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