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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by signz: 5:59pm On May 09, 2019
tbaba1234:


Some were considered too young..

Biko how young is too young

Well i guess Aigbogun wants to win at all cost. However, you don't win at all cost with the kind of players I saw represent us at the AYC.

Tbaba thank you for the updates. Daalu rinne

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:03pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


You don't get my point do you? I have never said anything to discredit Pep as a good coach. I think he's brilliant but I have always maintained the Klopp has made more impact judging from where he picked up LIVERPOOL and and having to spend moderately to build until last season when the club built up cash reserve and invested heavily to match city.
If you had followed my argument, you will find out I have always maintained this point.

Guardiola on the other was given a blank check by City. Infact the main reason he joined Man city in the first place was because they promised to make cash available to him for whatever he wanted with no limits.

If Guardiola had a blank check, he would have secure Fred or Jorginho. He would have secured Alexis Sanchez. When Mendy injured, he would plucked another top left back to fill it but had to continue with midfielders playing the role. That blank check talk is fake.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:03pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Which football pundit will rate klopp ahead guardiola? Maybe the british pundit who are always bias

Jurgen klopp has lost 2 european finals with Liverpool,i am sure if guardiola has done that the english will call him a failure because they hate him( I am not saying klop is a failure o ) incase you are thinking so

Has tottenham not also reach the champions league final without spending for the past 18 months?

Didnt unai emery won the europa league ahead of klop with a cheap sevilla team so because of that i should say unai emery is better than klop abi?

Why will guardiola coach crappy inter millan? I will bet you that if klop coach inter millan he will not win seria A with their squad as far as he is using those guys and juventus is still in that league

With all the money man united spend why are they yet to win the epl?

Ranieri won the epl with a cheap leicester and an unknown vardy a cheap ngolo kante shebi klop was at liverpool then so he is better than klop and others manager abi?


How is inter Milan crappy?

Just because you want to win argument, you resort to the unimaginable.

Keep on blaspheming. Inter Milan crappy........I have really heard something
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:04pm On May 09, 2019
tbaba1234:

Some were considered too young..
So, we rather look to them overaged players to bully our opponents. Hmmmm!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:12pm On May 09, 2019
It was 2am on a Monday when Bielsa knocked on the door of the Pochettino house with his entourage. The future Spurs manager was 13, and fast asleep. Bielsa has a reputation as something of an eccentric figure, and the story goes that he asked Pochettino’s parents if he could see their sleeping son’s legs. “He looks like a footballer, Those are the legs of a footballer,” Bielsa exclaimed and declared, and he signed him on the spot.

Pochettino grins. “Yes, that was the reality. I woke up in the morning and my mum explained the story. I said: ‘Yeah come on, it was in your dream. What did you drink before you went to sleep?’”

This was how the young Argentine started his career at the Newell’s Old Boys – the same Rosario club that gave the world Lionel Messi.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lifebogger.com/mauricio-pochettino-childhood-story-plus-untold-biography-facts/amp/

Marcelo Bielsa is the coach Guardiola referred to as the best manager in the World. He is the current manager in f Leeds United and my favorite to one day coach the Super Eagles.

I heard Amunike could tell the quality of a player by just watching him in seconds. Reading that Bielsa could tell the quality of a player by looking at his legs beats that of Amunike.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 6:15pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


If liverpool got blank check they will give it to klopp,liverpool has been desperate to win trophy from Rodgers days and they have spend what they have,mancity is a richer than Liverpool.

For Klopp to buy a defender of 75 million should tells you alot, if liverpool have the money they will give klop a blank check, van dijk was a risk at that buy but it has already paid of, which big team buys a a defender from Southampton for 75 million

VVD wouldn't have cost 75 million if the transfer market wasn't blown apart by Man city. We are talking about a team who got Laporte with zero international French caps for £57 million.
By the way, Klopp got to the finals of the champions league with Dortmond on a shoe string. The man have proved himself to be top drawer. Pep with the mega bucks of Bayern was always disgraced out of the champions league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:17pm On May 09, 2019
signz:


Biko how young is too young

Well i guess Aigbogun wants to win at all cost. However, you don't win at all cost with the kind of players I saw represent us at the AYC.

Tbaba thank you for the updates. Daalu rinne

The real 17 year olds were considered too young.. Bennetts, Zaccala, Fisayo (just turned 18) etc.. The NPFL 17 year olds are there.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:22pm On May 09, 2019
darkelf:


How is inter Milan crappy?

Just because you want to win argument, you resort to the unimaginable.

Keep on blaspheming. Inter Milan crappy........I have really heard something

Inter milan is crappy, Could not make it out of the group stage, didnt they have better players than tottenham? they even had upper hand to qualify and could not even win psv

As far as i am concerned inter millan is not an organised team and that makes them crappy

I am not trying to win arguement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:32pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


VVD wouldn't have cost 75 million if the transfer market wasn't blown apart by Man city. We are talking about a team who got Laporte with zero international French caps for £57 million.
By the way, Klopp got to the finals of the champions league with Dortmond on a shoe string. The man have proved himself to be top drawer. Pep with the mega bucks of Bayern was always disgraced out of the champions league.

Hope you know laporte will start for almost all top teams and even most big national teams? and laporte was having issues with deschamps because of his double mind to play for spain,even till now he has no cap for spain, But the same laporte is one of the epl best defender alongside van dijk? he help mancity win the league last season when he arrived january, hope you know john stones and otamendi has been sent to bench because of this guy? but hope you know stones is an england international and he is a starter? but a non french starter sent him to the bench

You cant expect deschamps to bench Umtiti and Varane for laporte, Never

Did klopp win the finals he went to with Dortmund? na only person wey win final we dey know o despite all team want to play in the finals, na only who win am be achievement, liverpool was brillant last season but they end up winning nothing just because the lost to madrid in the final, madrid was crappy last season but winning the champions league final saved their season

Pep has also been disgraced out of the champions league in barca by bayern, hope you remember the 7-0 bayern beat barca, so loosing makes pep a bad coach abi? you are already using that to berate him..... smiles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:32pm On May 09, 2019
tbaba1234:
17 year old Plateau United midfielder Mohammed Zulkifilu. shocked shocked

One of the players expected to make the team.. Utility player..


at least this one won't be more than 25 years old.

he is still young sha

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:41pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Inter milan is crappy, Could not make it out of the group stage, didnt they have better players than tottenham? they even had upper hand to qualify and could not even win psv

As far as i am concerned inter millan is not an organised team and that makes them crappy

I am not trying to win arguement.

So u are saying the great Pep Guardiola doesn't have the magic wand to transform that crappy Inter Milan team if he got the job?


Do u know how crappy Dortmund were before Klopp took over?
Do u know how much Klopp spent and how much he achieved with that Dortmund team ??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:47pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Klopp should not be spending 60 million for allison, allison is good but its way too much, this got nothing to do with psg and mancity

If klopp should scout bundesliga he will get a goal keeper for 30 million

Now how much did arsenal buy brand leno in the same season mancity and psg has spoiled the market according to you


Klopp got Karius from that same Budendliga..which better keeper dy there ?

Klopp signed Andrew Robertson for a mere £8m from an already relegated Hull city team and turned him to a beast!
Pep is a genius, but Klopp is a bigger genius abeg...don't let sentiment over cloud your judgment
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:49pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


So u are saying the great Pep Guardiola doesn't have the magic wand to transform that crappy Inter Milan team if he got the job?


Do u know how crappy Dortmund were before Klopp took over?
Do u know how much Klopp spent and how much he achieved with that Dortmund team ??

He will transform but say e go win league when juventus dey there? juventus wey dey buy every season? Pep will still need 2 or 3 buy at inter millan, klopp would have continue using rodgers team and not buy his own player, na top 4 liverpool go dey fight for and not league, Ordinary Vandijk salah fabinho was a big influence to liverpool team, he is lucky to get salah and mane at the cheap

Klopp didnt spend at Dortmund but he won the league ahead of bayern, so do wolfsburg won the league then and stuttgart without spending

When bayern begin buy dortumund players things change hand

Klopp did well at dortumond the world knows
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:52pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


Klopp got Karius from that same Budendliga..which better keeper dy there ?

Klopp signed Andrew Robertson for a mere £8m from an already relegated Hull city team and turned him to a beast!
Pep is a genius, but Klopp is a bigger genius abeg...don't let sentiment over cloud your judgment

Better keeper for there, Ter Stegen? Leno? Trapp?

Abeg bundesliga get better keeper wella o

And how much did pep buy zichenko?

Zichenko was bought for a mere 1.7 million pounds from a small team in russia league, sylvester igboun club

Lol, what sentiment? you wan change talk

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:55pm On May 09, 2019
Icon79 see as you dey view this thread so because say dem win us you wan kill your self ni abi?

Oya comment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:01pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Better keeper for there, Ter Stegen? Leno? Trapp?

Abeg bundesliga get better keeper wella o

And how much did pep buy zichenko?

Zichenko was bought for a mere 1.7 million pounds from a small team in russia league, sylvester igboun club

Lol, what sentiment? you wan change talk

Karius was one of d best goalie in the Budensliga the season Klopp signed him..but we saw how he turned out..

lol are u trying to compare Robertson to Zinchenko? grin it'd be criminal oo.. they are miles apart..
Another thing, Klopp brought a teenage Alexandr Arnold from the youth team and made a beast out of him..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 7:05pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Hope you know laporte will start for almost all top teams and even most big national teams? and laporte was having issues with deschamps because of his double mind to play for spain,even till now he has no cap for spain, But the same laporte is one of the epl best defender alongside van dijk? he help mancity win the league last season when he arrived january, hope you know john stones and otamendi has been sent to bench because of this guy? but hope you know stones is an england international and he is a starter? but a non french starter sent him to the bench

You cant expect deschamps to bench Umtiti and Varane for laporte, Never

Did klopp win the finals he went to with Dortmund? na only person wey win final we dey know o despite all team want to play in the finals, na only who win am be achievement, liverpool was brillant last season but they end up winning nothing just because the lost to madrid in the final, madrid was crappy last season but winning the champions league final saved their season

Pep has also been disgraced out of the champions league in barca by bayern, hope you remember the 7-0 bayern beat barca, so loosing makes pep a bad coach abi? you are already using that to berate him..... smiles

What's your point really? You're trying to prove that Larpote going for the amount he went for without being an international didn't inflate the market?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:08pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


Karius was one of d best goalie in the Budensliga the season Klopp signed him..but we saw how he turned out..

lol are u trying to compare Robertson to Zinchenko? grin it'd be criminal oo.. they are miles apart..
Another thing, Klopp brought a teenage Alexandr Arnold from the youth team and made a beast out of him..

You see that you are twisting things ,because I said pep bought zinchenko for 1.7 million means I am comparing him to Robertson ? You called a cheap player klopp bought and I have also called the one pep bought so that means I am comparing them abi ?

Is Phil foden not from the youth team of mancity also ?

Mancity is a star studded team you already know that

Pray you will trophy o ,you are favorite to win the champions league ,if you fail to win it ,this thread no go contain us ooo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:11pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


What's your point really? You're trying to prove that Larpote going for the amount he went for without being an international didn't inflate the market?

Laporte is worth that amount ,he is not an international at least na players like umtiti and varane dey start for France

Laporte is not an international but sent international players to bench ,players like otamendi and especially stones
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:12pm On May 09, 2019
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:32pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..

I repeat Klopp...I repeat again Klopp...
I repeat the third time KLOPP...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 7:38pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Laporte is worth that amount ,he is not an international at least na players like umtiti and varane dey start for France

Laporte is not an international but sent international players to bench ,players like otamendi and especially stones

A rookie can send international players to the bench. The emergence of a 19yr old Fabregas caused Viera to leave Arsenal.
The question I asked is if paying 57m for a player with zero caps caused inflation on the transfer market or not? Don't play smart with me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:42pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


A rookie can send international players to the bench. The emergence of a 19yr old Fabregas caused Viera to leave Arsenal.
The question I asked is if paying 57m for a player with zero caps caused inflation on the transfer market or not? Don't play smart with me.

Agreed

But Laporte didn't cause inflation at the transfer market

Everybody knows Laporte is good enough for France but he and deschamps are having issues
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:44pm On May 09, 2019
Iwobi has been relegated to the bench

Maybe it will help his career
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:45pm On May 09, 2019
The persons that caused inflation in the market was Neymar, Dembele and Coutinho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:04pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..

Definitely Klopp, he seems less confrontational and a good man manager.

Pep though, is able to bring the best out of his players, he, however, is not patient enough to manage a national team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:09pm On May 09, 2019
junnyjake:


So, we rather look to them overaged players to bully our opponents. Hmmmm!

As usual..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 8:22pm On May 09, 2019
Humility017:


I repeat Klopp...I repeat again Klopp...
I repeat the third time KLOPP...

What has Klopp won, because he reached UCL final?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:31pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..

Klopp. There is a feeling that he brings to a team that is very contagious. I have always been a fan of his rock and roll football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 8:49pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


I should ask you to maintain your argument because you're at cross roads to which point you're making.
Are you saying Pep improved players at his disposal or he bought players just like every other big club in history. Stop the shithousing and say which one is which.

I don't know how improving players and signing areas of weakness have to be one or the other. As if the Sané you see today is the same one you knew before he met Pep. Your arguments are putrid and half-thought.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 8:52pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

That's why I rate him ahead of Pep. Guys like Rose, Alli, Keane, Tripper, Son where virtually unknown before working with Pochetino while Luca Moura was a caste off at Psg, Wayama and Sissoko were playing in small Premiership clubs, the less said about Llorente the better.
I have respect for people who achieve results with limited reasourses. It is a trait of sound leadership and good management.

LOL @ virtually unknown. So the Walker that City bought from him what about him? If he was a player that Poch was using does it not mean he too was virtually unknown when City got him? I don't know how you don't see how biased and shallow your arguments are. Gab Jesus, Zinchenko, Sané were they also known players? The core of City team did Pep purchase them abi he inherited them?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 8:54pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:


The reason Klopp had to spend that much on a goalkeeper and a defender was because the likes of city and PSG have inflated the transfer market!
Check how much Klopp spent at Dortmund and how much he achieved with them..

He inherited a shitty squad from Rodgers.. He needed his own players to rebuild the team and that involved spending money...if Roma had asked for 200m for Alisson, Klopp would have paid it....if Southampton had asked for 500m for Van Djik, he would have paid it. he needed those players...

Unlike Pep that spent £60m on Mahrez to use him as a back up player, Klopp doesn't spend big on players he doesn't need in the starting eleven..

You guys talk from both sides of your mouth. Klopp needed to spend on a squad that finished 2nd before he came but Pep did not need to spend on a squad that were 4th equal on points with 5th place United?

Mention one transfer that City inflated. I am waiting.

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