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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 9:33pm On May 09, 2019
Humility017:


he knows how to harvest good young players...
he give young players the opportunity to prove themselves.
he is a coach like Diego Simone always with his players in the spirit when they play....

he is some one that has a good man management skill and philosophy.
please can you help the super eagles get him?
I will even prefer Arsene Wenger to the overrated Pep..


Overated Pep has won every trophy there is

Klopp is winning 'putting pressure' trophies

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 9:38pm On May 09, 2019
Pep's trophies

Barcelona B

Tercera División: 2007–08
Barcelona

La Liga: 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11
Copa del Rey: 2008–09, 2011–12
Supercopa de España: 2009, 2010, 2011
UEFA Champions League: 2008–09, 2010–11
UEFA Super Cup: 2009, 2011
FIFA Club World Cup: 2009, 2011
Bayern Munich

Bundesliga: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16
DFB-Pokal: 2013–14, 2015–16
UEFA Super Cup: 2013
FIFA Club World Cup: 2013
Manchester City

Premier League: 2017–18[213]
EFL Cup: 2017–18 2018–19
FA Community Shield: 2018
Individual

Individual awards :Don Balón Award: 2009, 2010
Miguel Muñoz Trophy: 2008–09, 2009–10
Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 2009, 2011, 2012
World Soccer Magazine World Manager of the Year: 2009, 2011
World Soccer Magazine 5th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013[5]
France Football 5th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2019[6]
ESPN FC 18th Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013[214]
IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 2009, 2011
European Coach of the Year—Alf Ramsey Award: 2011
European Coach of the Season: 2008–09
UEFA Team of the Year Best Coach: 2008–09, 2010–11
La Liga Coach of the Year: 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
FIFA World Coach of the Year: 2011[215]
Globe Soccer Awards Coach Career Award: 2013
Premier League Manager of the Month: February 2017, September 2017, October 2017, November 2017, December 2017, February 2019, April 2019[213]
Premier League Manager of the Season: 2017–18[213]
LMA Manager of the Year: 2017–18



Klopp's trophies

1000 hugs

10,000 fist pumps



Why is there even a comparism?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 9:47pm On May 09, 2019
Eruditor:


How could he inflate the market when that was his release clause?

Compare that to VVD who was sold to the HIGHEST bidder. You guys should lie with style abeg.

Release clause or not. If you go above the market selling prize especially when you don't have the requisite profile, that causes inflation.
Get it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 9:48pm On May 09, 2019
Eruditor:


All rubbish lies. Who did Pep buy when he won the sextuple?

Do you know why Laporte cost that much? Hahaha. That was his release clause. As soon as City met it, Bilbao had to sell. This was not "making them an offer they will not refuse" like Liverpool and Klopp did for VVD and Alisson. You people will lie about everything.

You're talking rubbish. Release clause or not, it changes nothing. Inflation is inflation.
Just look at your argument.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by busky007: 9:49pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..
klopp all the way
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 9:52pm On May 09, 2019
Eruditor:


LOL, BTW he signed for City because they had been making plans to get him since 2011. They even hired the former Barca CEO just because they wanted him to lure Pep. Blank check ko.
What was Pep Guardiola's demands before signing for Man city?
I ask again. What's your argument really? Did Pep polish the players he met on ground or did he take to the transfer market and as a result young city players left the club in droves for first team football. Sancho is valued at £80m today.
Why did Kelechi leave Man city? Why didn't Pep improve him? Why did Pep buy Jesus when he simply had to improve Kelechi Iheanacho?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 9:58pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..

Klopp is the ultimate football geek. He has proved he can work with mid level talents and achieve results while Pep is better suited working with top of shelve talents.
Klopp will do better with what we have. Hypothetically speaking.
That's my take.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:01pm On May 09, 2019
You guys will be alright. Don't worry.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:04pm On May 09, 2019
Semid4lyfe Honeric01

Are people allowed to derail threads because it's "Sports" Section? Is there actually an enforcement of the rules here, in instances where the derailment has gone on way too long?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On May 09, 2019
Danielnino00:
If Klopp and Guardiola decide to coach their national teams, give their managerial style at club level and the kind of players at their disposal, who would be more successful?


And again,if the super eagles have the opportunity to be coached by one of them,as a die hard super eagle fan,who would u pick?

I need honest replies pls..

cc thegoodjoe Andrew444, bascovanveli, darkelf bazooka1 icon4s Joebie tbaba1234 Forgiveness humility017 Komekn safarigirl
and other distinguished gents(and ladies) of the thread..

I think Guardiola will be more successful because of the talents at his disposal are already trained to play the way Guardiola wants. So it will be easier to get the best from them with his tactics

If Nigeria had the chance to employ any of the coaches, I will take Guardiola because his style is more organised than Klopp to give them the run to become a true force.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

What was Pep Guardiola's demands before signing for Man city?
I ask again. What's your argument really? Did Pep polish the players he met on ground or did he take to the transfer market and as a result young city players left the club in droves for first team football. Sancho is valued at £80m today.
Why did Kelechi leave Man city? Why didn't Pep improve him? Why did Pep buy Jesus when he simply had to improve Kelechi Iheanacho?
City have only added one player to their first-team squad in the past year, with the record £60m signing of Leicester’s Riyad Mahrez last summer and some reinforcements may be needed.

Especially since City have suffered with a number of injuries this season, with the likes of Kevin De Bruyne and Benjamin Mendy missing massive chunks of the campaign.

A lot of City’s key players, such as David Silva, Fernandinho and Vincent Kompany, are in their 30s.


And still had a brilliant season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:12pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

What was Pep Guardiola's demands before signing for Man city?
I ask again. What's your argument really? Did Pep polish the players he met on ground or did he take to the transfer market and as a result young city players left the club in droves for first team football. Sancho is valued at £80m today.
Why did Kelechi leave Man city? Why didn't Pep improve him? Why did Pep buy Jesus when he simply had to improve Kelechi Iheanacho?

Iheanacho was not prepared to wait. Last season, Zinchenko spent a long time on the bench. This season, he is so much improved.

The young players are leaving because of the quality of the first team. That is a props to Guardiola. Sancho can be valued for a billion. Bring him to City today, he will seat on the bench for Bernardo and Sterling.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 10:12pm On May 09, 2019
iSlayer2:
Semid4lyfe Honeric01

Are people allowed to derail threads because it's "Sports" Section? Is there actually an enforcement of the rules here, in instances where the derailment has gone on way too long?


This is not a section this is a thread in the sports section

What you discuss here concerns you and the op of the thread

You go dey alright last last grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 10:15pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Lol

What was position before klop left ?

They were 7th but for most of the season courted relegation. As soon as he announced that he was leaving at the end of the season, the performance of the team improved fueling speculations that the players wanted him out.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 10:20pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


Release clause or not. If you go above the market selling prize especially when you don't have the requisite profile, that causes inflation.
Get it?

I am tempted to say you don't know how things work. There is no market value with a release clause. It does not work that way. Players sign contracts and in return for adding a clause in their contracts they ask their parent clubs for huge wages. Laporte did that and Bilbao placed his clause at 57M. Which meant that the only condition necessary for the player to be sold is if any club met that valuation. It was the same reason Wenger offered 40M for Suarez in 2013 and Liverpool would have been forced to sell but the player himself decided against leaving because of the pep talk Gerard gave him. I digress.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:20pm On May 09, 2019
Eruditor:


They were 7th but for most of the season courted relegation. As soon as he announced that he was leaving at the end of the season, the performance of the team improved fueling speculations that the players wanted him out.

And I didn't know about this ,even klop boys didn't know about this or they are pretending ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 10:21pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


Klopp is the ultimate football geek. He has proved he can work with mid level talents and achieve results while Pep is better suited working with top of shelve talents.
Klopp will do better with what we have. Hypothetically speaking.
That's my take.

Average players like?

Van Diyk - 75 million
Allison - 60 million
Keita- 50 million
Fabinho - 50 million
Salah - 40 million

Man city record signing 50 million, Liverpool record signing 75 million
Who is buying the league?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:21pm On May 09, 2019
Earthquake2:

This is not a section this is a thread in the sports section
What you discuss here concerns you and the op of the thread
You go dey alright last last grin

Okay.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:23pm On May 09, 2019
iSlayer2:
Semid4lyfe Honeric01

Are people allowed to derail threads because it's "Sports" Section? Is there actually an enforcement of the rules here, in instances where the derailment has gone on way too long?


My friend keep quiet and stop calling the mod

The last time I check this is a sport thread ,or are we discussing family meeting here ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 10:24pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


You're talking rubbish. Release clause or not, it changes nothing. Inflation is inflation.
Just look at your argument.

I have now confirmed you know nothing. How can I inflate something that is supported by documents? Mercedes make a car and tell you the car is 2M and you tell them it is inflation? What a dumb way of reasoning.

Inflation will be that someone decided to sell that same car for 5M because he heard Dangote was the purchaser. That is inflation. VVD was purchased by inflation. Same player was agreed for 60M just months prior but when Chelsea and other clubs showed interest, Southampton raised the price to 75M and Liverpool still said, we will pay. Even when the player in question was not earning more than a player who was valued at 30M.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:24pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:


You're talking rubbish. Release clause or not, it changes nothing. Inflation is inflation.
Just look at your argument.

So saying the fact and truth means rubbish to you ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:31pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


My friend keep quiet and stop calling the mod

The last time I check this is a sport thread ,or are we discussing family meeting here ?

This thread has a primary purpose. We derail from time to time but it is best not to derail too much.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 10:32pm On May 09, 2019
bazooka1:

What was Pep Guardiola's demands before signing for Man city?
I ask again. What's your argument really? Did Pep polish the players he met on ground or did he take to the transfer market and as a result young city players left the club in droves for first team football. Sancho is valued at £80m today.
Why did Kelechi leave Man city? Why didn't Pep improve him? Why did Pep buy Jesus when he simply had to improve Kelechi Iheanacho?

You are a hater with no information. Pep made no demands to City, the club themselves already set up their academy and tried to purchase players that will work with his system. That is why Txiki Begiristain was hired. He was poached by City to lure Pep since he was instrumental to hiring Pep in Barca.

And yes, Pep polished the players he met on ground from Aguero, Silva, KDB, Raheem, Fernandinho all had their goals and assists increase since he arrived. Then he purchased young players for future purposes. Jordan Sancho left because he felt he would get more first team opportunities in Dortmund and he was right. He is not good enough to bench any of the starters. Besides, City wanted to keep him and the player told them he would stay but then changed his mind and decided to leave.

Kelechi's issue is well documented. I even had a conversation with thegoodjoe at the time. Kelechi was looking for constant first team opportunities and he told City to accept Leicester's offer. If Pep did not believe in him City would not have inserted a clause in his contract that allows them to resign him if they wanted. Raheem had an iffy first season under Pep as well. Today we know who he is.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 10:33pm On May 09, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho was not prepared to wait. Last season, Zinchenko spent a long time on the bench. This season, he is so much improved.

The young players are leaving because of the quality of the first team. That is a props to Guardiola. Sancho can be valued for a billion. Bring him to City today, he will seat on the bench for Bernardo and Sterling.

Finito.

I should learn to read your replies before putting mine. So correct and succinct.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 10:35pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


And I didn't know about this ,even klop boys didn't know about this or they are pretending ?

They are pretending. I can list 5 players that left Liverpool under Klopp. They now want to paint him in gold as if he is perfect and makes no mistakes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:36pm On May 09, 2019
Eruditor:


I should learn to read your replies before putting mine. So correct and succinct.

Just flow. It highlights the facts
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:39pm On May 09, 2019
tbaba1234:


This thread has a primary purpose. We derail from time to time but it is best not to derail too much.

The Euro football fever is on. It will pass. However, after having two brilliant Champions league games, discussions must come out.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:41pm On May 09, 2019
chrisooblog:
okocha won bbc african footballer of the year i doubt ajagun has even won best footballer in his local government grin

you are actually comparing injured tyronne to defender of the universe ilori grin

nwakali is a young man time is still on his side while tiago is a 26 year old up and coming player who couldn't cut it anywhere and had to run back home to portugal like a baby and he's still not cutting it grin

Did Okocha football life span come to an end or not? grin

Atleast, you have agreed what you won determines your achievement in football. grin

But an ignoramus like you didn't know Abdul won laurels locally and internationally with Dolphin fc and Panathinaikos. grin Stop disgracing yourself in public, mister. grin

Ohooooo! You can factor in injury for Ebuehi's predicament but can't factor that in in Tiago Ilori's case during his sojourn in Ligue 1. grin

Get this, Tiago Ilori despite injury had a successful season in the Ligue 1 than Chidozie Awaziem did. Do you want to dispute this? grin

The universe Ilori also had a successful league in La Liga (the one man league) as our universe Omeruo is doing in the la Liga. How about that? grin

Wait! Didn't you you say universe Omeruo is doing well in LA Liga? grin

Tiago Ilori didn't run home to an obscure league nor club but to the Portuguese first division with Sporting Lisbon, the third biggest club in Portugal.

Atleast, Tiago Ilori has successfully played in the La Liga, Portuguese Liga, Ligue 1 and Championship at 20 but you didn't tell us Tiago was a young man and time was still on his side then. grin

Okay, tell me where Nwakali has played so far and where he is now. In Portuguese lowly second division yet struggling to get game time. grin

Mister, you reck of bias. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:46pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Wise man

You tagged 2 guardiola lover and about few klopp lovers and few guardiola haters

Sense wan kill you

If sense no kill am, wetin him gain.

I'll choose klopp because he has proven that he can turn an average player into a very good player (if not world class)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:53pm On May 09, 2019
andrew444:


Forgiveness you don start abi ?

Tell me you are not serious

You know Tyrone ebuehi has been injured all season ,so how is he struggling to revive his career ?


Start what? Why didn't you correct him when he said Tiago Ilori flopped in Ligue 1? Didn't you know he also had injuries?

Besides, how can one move from Reading fc to sporting Lisbon and still believe someone is struggling to revive ones career? grin

Does that make sense to you?

Try to be a good judge and not a bias one.

Actually, I said that to mock him. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:53pm On May 09, 2019
darkelf:


If sense no kill am, wetin him gain.

I'll choose klopp because he has proven that he can turn an average player into a very good player (if not world class)

Just the way he made karius world class and sold the champions league to Madrid
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:54pm On May 09, 2019
Oh mehn I wish am English right now cool

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