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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:37pm On May 10, 2019
tbaba1234:


Ofoborh is very much a part of the team. He was only excused for Bournemouth's league game. Currently, he is by far, the best player in the squad.

I thought as much. He is in Paul's plan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:39pm On May 10, 2019
zoboizee:
@tbaba1234
From my reading of your comments so far, i think the team can't be so different from this if you put into consideration old members & new additions.

1. Detan Ogundare (Kogi United)
2. Olawale Oremade (Oasis.A)
3. Matthew Yakubu (Clique Sports )
4. Ikouwem Utin (Enyimba)
5. Mike Zaruma (Plateau Utd)
6. Muhammad Zulkifilu (Plateau)
7. Solomon Ogberahwe (El-Kanemi)
8. Valentine Ozornwafor (Enyimba)
9. Aliu Salawudeen (E.A.A)
10. Igho Ogbu (Rosenborg)
11. Jamilu Muhammed (Kano Pillars)
12. Effiom Maxwell (Enyimba)
13. Tom Dele Bashiru (Man. City)
14. Nnamdi Ofoborh (Bournemouth)
15. Ibrahim Abubakar (Plateau Utd)
16. Kingsley Micheal(Perugia)
17. Pascal Durugbor (Vaxjo)
18. Henry Offia (IK Sirius)
19. Jerome Akor(Sogndal IL)
20. Tijani Muhammed
21. Success Makanjuola


You are not far from truth. It looks likely.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:47pm On May 10, 2019
Earthquake2:
Yakubu Aighegbeni is in camp to train the strikers

This gets funnier and funnier

I don't see anything funny about it.. Yakubu is the best striker Nigeria has ever produced since Yekini... The boys in camp will definitely learn from him..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:49pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


And he has 2 champions league finals to show for it. Pep spent half a billion and still yet to hack it past the quarter finals.

But Pep has dominated Klopp in the domestic scene hands down besides Klopp spending a fortune and by Pep was clearly robbed off the Champions League this season. Either way, Pep has broken records in the England Klopp can only dream off.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:50pm On May 10, 2019
Barryseal:

He earned the right to do that.

And Guardiola after losing Five defenders did not have the right. undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:51pm On May 10, 2019
komekn:


WOW !!! This is shocking shocked shocked. You now clutching on dried and dead straws.

What is FALSE and or MISLEADING about this post from me.

The question put to you was simply to NAME ONE NOT TWO items of falsehood. You claimed I keep posting lies, misrepresentations and falsehood. Please prove it or remain and exposed LIAR.

I didn't claim anything like that stop twisting my words champ. If you don't want to be truthful about conversations we have had then you can kick rocks for all I care. I am not going to waste my time looking up old posts that you will dribble around anyways.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 1:06pm On May 10, 2019
Danielnino00:


I don't see anything funny about it.. Yakubu is the best striker Nigeria has ever produced since Yekini... The boys in camp will definitely learn from him..

It could also be a gatecrash approach to help a coach bereft of ideas
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 1:19pm On May 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


But Pep has dominated Klopp in the domestic scene hands down besides Klopp spending a fortune and by Pep was clearly robbed off the Champions League this season. Either way, Pep has broken records in the England Klopp can only dream off.
Of course Pep broke records in England. I doubt any manager have spent half a billion within a 3 year span.

I haven't checked but I want to believe Klop and Liverpool were responsible for knocking out Man city from the Champions league last season.
So much for Guardiola's dominance over Klopp.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 1:22pm On May 10, 2019
Earthquake2:
Yakubu Aighegbeni is in camp to train the strikers

This gets funnier and funnier
so the yak is not good enough to trains the strikers?

i think his services are also needed in the super eagle
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 1:24pm On May 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


And Guardiola after losing Five defenders did not have the right. undecided

If indeed he had the midas touch like you think, he should have groomed a couple of players from the City academy. Guys like Tosin Aderabayo didn't even get a look in. A good manager will give chance and groom youth players then add boost the group with quality additions, just like Klopp.
But no, oga Pep binned everybody and went haywire with the check book.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:24pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:

Of course Pep broke records in England. I doubt any manager have spent half a billion within a 3 year span.

I haven't checked but I want to believe Klop and Liverpool were responsible for knocking out Man city from the Champions league last season.
So much for Guardiola's dominance over Klopp.

With another ojoro. Why do you people like Robbing City?

Either way, Klopp has done well in Europe and Guardiola has been a blast on the domestic scene which takes a lot of work and determination. If money could buy what Guardiola would have done, Manchester United would have done so.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:25pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


If indeed he had the midas touch like you think, he should have groomed a couple of players from the City academy. Guys like Tosin Aderabayo didn't even get a look in. A good manager will give chance and groom youth players then add boost the group with quality additions, just like Klopp.
But no, oga Pep binned everybody and went haywire with the check book.

If Klopp has the midas touch, he should not have bought the likes of Matip and Van Dijk and groomed his own.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:26pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


If indeed he had the midas touch like you think, he should have groomed a couple of players from the City academy. Guys like Tosin Aderabayo didn't even get a look in. A good manager will give chance and groom youth players then add boost the group with quality additions, just like Klopp.
But no, oga Pep binned everybody and went haywire with the check book.

Guardiola was not brought to groom players but delivered titles. He has done well for now despite facing challenges like players aging and running out of contracts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:26pm On May 10, 2019
first of why are sometimes so emotional and rude when passing across your points? if it were just bants i would understand but this is the uptenth time you are doing this. dude you are a christian or so you claim we can debate issues without throwing insults. have i referred to you as an ignoramus in any post before? forgiveness be guided.

now to your points for ajagun it's not about the span of his career but how well he has done so far. he won one miserly greek cup because of that we should do somersaults? answer me was he ever voted one of the best in the nigerian greek dutch or belgium leagues that you will not let us rest?

who mentioned awaziem? we are talking about ilori who you claimed is supposed to be a marquee defender trust you to cherry pick the stats that fit your narrative even if we compare the two tiago at 26 years old should be nearing his best not competing with a 22 year old awaziem who is just in the early stage of his career? how the "mighty" have fallen.

ebuehi before his injury was outstanding in his dutch club den haag that's why benfica bought him. tiago you will probably claim has been blighted by injury but he hasn't suffered season or career ending type injuries so how come the times he's fit is he not getting playing time? he for instance has only played 4 times this seasons while being injured for just a month what happened to the remaining months?

you call playing 9 out of 19 games successful? omeruo has played almost every game for leganes has been named in team of the week twice was ilori ever named man of the match in spain?

yes he ran back to portugal cos that's his comfort zone to revive his career.

what even brought nwakali into this matter? have i ever hyped him or campaigned for him to be invited to the super eagles? nwakali is poor, iheanacho is poor, ajagun is poor, ilori is poor cest fini!

forgiveness:


Did Okocha football life span come to an end or not? grin

Atleast, you have agreed what you won determines your achievement in football. grin

But an ignoramus like you didn't know Abdul won laurels locally and internationally with Dolphin fc and Panathinaikos. grin Stop disgracing yourself in public, mister. grin

Ohooooo! You can factor in injury for Ebuehi's predicament but can't factor that in in Tiago Ilori's case during his sojourn in Ligue 1. grin

Get this, Tiago Ilori despite injury had a successful season in the Ligue 1 than Chidozie Awaziem did. Do you want to dispute this? grin

The universe Ilori also had a successful league in La Liga (the one man league) as our universe Omeruo is doing in the la Liga. How about that? grin

Wait! Didn't you you say universe Omeruo is doing well in LA Liga? grin

Tiago Ilori didn't run home to an obscure league nor club but to the Portuguese first division with Sporting Lisbon, the third biggest club in Portugal.

Atleast, Tiago Ilori has successfully played in the La Liga, Portuguese Liga, Ligue 1 and Championship at 20 but you didn't tell us Tiago was a young man and time was still on his side then. grin

Okay, tell me where Nwakali has played so far and where he is now. In Portuguese lowly second division yet struggling to get game time. grin

Mister, you reck of bias. grin










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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 1:27pm On May 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


If Klopp has the midas touch, he should not have bought the likes of Matip and Van Dijk and groomed his own.
He plucked Arnold and Gomez from the academy didn't he?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:27pm On May 10, 2019
lol putting pressure trophies

Earthquake2:


Overated Pep has won every trophy there is

Klopp is winning 'putting pressure' trophies
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 1:29pm On May 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola was not brought to groom players but delivered titles. He has done well for now despite facing challenges like players aging and running out of contracts.

But that's why I have been saying. He was brought to deliver titles with a huge wad of cash reserves. He didn't have to balance any books or sell his best players to fund transfers. He's had it that easy.
This is exactly the reason why I believe Klopps have made much more impact than him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:29pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:

He plucked Arnold and Gomez from the academy didn't he?

And spent a fortune on Van Dijk and Allison. He should have plucked.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 1:31pm On May 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


And spent a fortune on Van Dijk and Allison. He should have plucked.
That's how it should be. You groom players and then go for quality additions. The hallmark of a good manager.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:31pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


But that's why I have been saying. He was brought to deliver titles with a huge wad of cash reserves. He didn't have to balance any books or sell his best players to fund transfers. He's had it that easy.
This is exactly the reason why I believe Klopps have made much more impact than him.

Guardiola does not balance books because he met an aging squad unlike Liverpool that can buy Clyne today and sell him tomorrow. Manchester City buy and keep players long term. Many run out their contracts with the club which is a sign of healthy and sound management unlike the way the media spins it to justify gung-ho buying and selling.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:36pm On May 10, 2019
thegoodjoe i happy you saw it and pointed it out

TheGoodJoe:


Point the facts he is missing without calling him names. Thank you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 1:36pm On May 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola does not balance books because he met an aging squad unlike Liverpool that can buy Clyne today and sell him tomorrow. Manchester City buy and keep players long term. Many run out their contracts with the club which is a sign of healthy and sound management unlike the way the media spins it to justify gung-ho buying and selling.

In other words City is a buying club. Buy, buy, buy, buy.
Why the denials?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:36pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:

That's how it should be. You groom players and then go for quality additions. The hallmark of a good manager.

Who makes that the way it should be? You?

We have had the likes of Aguero, Silva and Kompany for ages. If we wanted to flaunt money, we could have sold them for fortunes. Meanwhile we get the best of them and unless a clear sign in drop of form or not fit to the new managers plans.

Apart from Arnold, Gomez is not a starter. The whole Liverpool team is bought. Don't make it look like he used academy players. Is it Milner, Salah, Firmino, Wijnaldum, Mane, Henderson, Fabinho, Shaquiri, Robertson, Matip, Van Dijk, Origi, Chamberlain and others that are not bought?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:37pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


In other words City is a buying club. Buy, buy, buy, buy.
Why the denials?

More like sound player management.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:38pm On May 10, 2019
if pep was not operating on a budget he would have bought sanchez, jorghinho and fred

bazooka1:

The facts are there to prove Pep is operating on a budget?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:38pm On May 10, 2019
I forgot Karius and Allison.


But hey is good to buy because we sell. Lol.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:42pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


In other words City is a buying club. Buy, buy, buy, buy.
Why the denials?


“Most of them are under contracts. A month ago, I started reading – ‘Rúben Neves, £100m’. That is not going to happen, we are not going to pay £100m for a holding midfielder. Of course, in all departments in the club, we have in every position four or five or six options – depending on age, what we believe and, of course, the price.

“The most expensive one was Riyhad [Mahrez, £60m last summer] and he earns far away from what the top teams pay. Our wage bill for the players is eighth or ninth or 10th in Europe, so there are eight or nine clubs where the wages are higher than Manchester City pay.

“We try to be stable in everything. When we spent a lot [two summers ago] – it was because the team was old – it was an average 30-31 years old and that’s why we did it. But we cannot do it every season. We have a limit and cannot spend more so that’s why we need to be careful with the players and try next season to see what we can do to improve.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/13/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-ruben-neves-wolves

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 2:17pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


Sancho wouldn't have left if he knew he will develop as much as he thought with Pep in charge. His decision proved to be a masterstroke as Pep have £60m worth of talent in Mahrez rooted to the bench.

You said Pep has improved Silva, Kdb, Aguero and Fernandinho? Improved them how? These guys have won the Premiership before Pep joined.
You're just an average hack who know little about what he's talking about.

Hahaha. With each passing post you expose your ignorance even further. City had 3 fledgling talents. Brahim Diaz, Phil Foden and Jordan Sancho. All 3 Pep did not want to sell. Brahim wanted to go to Madrid, you don't mention him even though it is clear that decision was poor. Sancho left, you want to use it to deride Pep but same you is forgetting that Phil said he wanted to stay because he knew his game will improve under Pep.

Same you is asking me how Pep improved the players even when I clearly told you that their goals, assists trophy halls, EPL team of the year, EPL player of the year awards and nominations have all gone up.

You are a special type of ignorant. Just ask questions and learn.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 2:20pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:

Why didn't Man city groom players while Sagna, Zabaleta and co were there?

How do you groom 32-year-olds FFS?

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 2:25pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:

But in that time, he has totally revived the careers of presumed dead weights like Henderson and Milner. Brought through players like Gomez and Arnold from the academy. Plucked Robertson from relative obscurity from a relegated Hull City or something and turned him to world class full back.
All these he achieved before spending on top players like VVD and co.
This is what I mean by solid management, the ability to mix it up and achieve success. That is why I strongly believe he has made more impact than Pep.
Thank you

Henderson's career is revived? Hahaha hahaha.

What about the same squad Pep inherited from Pellegrini that has garnered 195pts in 2 seasons alone? If garnering that much points was a given why has no coach done it before?

Raheem was the same quality with Iwobi before Pep. Today Raheem is footballer's writers player of the year, young player of the year and has more than 50 goals and 30 assists in 2 seasons alone. Tell me how much Raheem will go for if anyone wanted to sign him? That is how to REVIVE a player. Not to mention Henderson that has not even outscored Laporte this season.

LMAO.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 2:29pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:

How much have Pep spent since arriving at City? How much have he sold to recuperate some funds and balance books, you know like every other team.
If he doesn't have to balance books, then he has a blank check.
That's my take.

What check does Klopp balance? Why do you guys lie for a living?

If you sell old players like Sagna, Clichy, Zaba, Toure, Jesus Navas, Fernando, Hart, how much will you get from them in return to balance books?

You keep saying Liverpool signed players from the academy but you are conveniently ignoring that Delph a CM was played as a LB all through last season in a team that won 100pts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eruditor: 2:31pm On May 10, 2019
bazooka1:


And he has 2 champions league finals to show for it. Pep spent half a billion and still yet to hack it past the quarter finals.

LMAO.

Klopp and Pep started in the same FA Cup, Carabao, League as well. Add those. Don't disingenuously mention only Champions league. Pep has won that one 2 good times.

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